God reveals the truth concerning various topics with at least 2-3 scripture references. Even the "witness" scriptures themselves in Matthew 18:16 and 2 Corinthians 13:1 follow this rule. Consider what this principle reveals concerning NT water baptism. There is not one instance of water baptism being administered using the phrase, "in the name of the Father, and the Son and the Holy Ghost. Whereas, every detailed account since it's inception in Jerusalem was done in the name of Jesus in accordance with His sacrifice.
The Error is Baptism in Jesus name only for salvation
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I don’t understand why it would matter that he is speaking to “the saints which are at Ephesus”. In verse 13 he recounts how they came to be in Christ. They were sealed in him with the Holy Spirit when they believed. There is no mention of water baptism. Certainly he could have said they were sealed in him with the Holy Spirit when they believed and were water baptized, but he didn’t say that.
When are we sealed and cleansed? We are sealed in him by the Holy Spirit when we believe. When we have been sealed in him we are cleansed by his blood.
“In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,”
Ephesians 1:13 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/eph.1.13.ESV
“In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace,”
Ephesians 1:7 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/eph.1.7.ESV
Acts 2:38
“Kefa answered them, “Turn from sin, return to God, and each of you be immersed on the authority of Yeshua the Messiah into forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Ruach HaKodesh!”
Acts of Emissaries of Yeshua (Act) 2:38 CJB
https://bible.com/bible/1275/act.2.38.CJB
This version does a few things that I believe give a better representation of the original language. It translates baptistheto as be immersed. This makes it less likely for the reader to assume water baptism. No water is mentioned. It also translates epi as ”on” instead of ”in”. Epi means on. Then finally it translates eis as “into” which is its primary meaning.
This helps us see that the verse actually says “repent and be immersed on the authority of Jesus Christ into forgiveness of your sins”. Repent/metanoesate simply means to have a change of mind and a person who comes to believe has had a change of mind.
Now remember those two verses above Ephesians 1:7 and 13. We are sealed/immersed into Christ when we believe and in Christ we have forgiveness of sins through his blood.
Exactly the same as Acts 2:38.
Acts 22:16
Same concept as above. Immersion into Christ, not water immersion.
1 John 5:1 is true.
“Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the Father loves whoever has been born of him.”
1 John 5:1 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/1jn.5.1.ESV
When are we sealed and cleansed? We are sealed in him by the Holy Spirit when we believe. When we have been sealed in him we are cleansed by his blood.
“In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,”
Ephesians 1:13 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/eph.1.13.ESV
“In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace,”
Ephesians 1:7 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/eph.1.7.ESV
Acts 2:38
“Kefa answered them, “Turn from sin, return to God, and each of you be immersed on the authority of Yeshua the Messiah into forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Ruach HaKodesh!”
Acts of Emissaries of Yeshua (Act) 2:38 CJB
https://bible.com/bible/1275/act.2.38.CJB
This version does a few things that I believe give a better representation of the original language. It translates baptistheto as be immersed. This makes it less likely for the reader to assume water baptism. No water is mentioned. It also translates epi as ”on” instead of ”in”. Epi means on. Then finally it translates eis as “into” which is its primary meaning.
This helps us see that the verse actually says “repent and be immersed on the authority of Jesus Christ into forgiveness of your sins”. Repent/metanoesate simply means to have a change of mind and a person who comes to believe has had a change of mind.
Now remember those two verses above Ephesians 1:7 and 13. We are sealed/immersed into Christ when we believe and in Christ we have forgiveness of sins through his blood.
Exactly the same as Acts 2:38.
Acts 22:16
Same concept as above. Immersion into Christ, not water immersion.
1 John 5:1 is true.
“Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the Father loves whoever has been born of him.”
1 John 5:1 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/1jn.5.1.ESV
No one was baptized in a name until the NT was ushered in on the Day of Pentecost. That is because the usage of the name is associated with Jesus' death, burial and resurrection. All detailed water baptism accounts indicate all were done in the name of Jesus as it was He who was crucified to make salvation available for all.
There is a difference in being a friend or being Jesus' bride.
Experiencing the NT rebirth was not possible until after Jesus was glorified and the Holy Spirit was poured at Pentecost. Peter revealed the keys necessary to gain entrance into the kingdom on that day. They parallel what Jesus stated during His ministry. Believe in Jesus and His sacrifice, repent, be baptized in His name for remission of sin, and receive the Holy Ghost as well. These NT requirements remain the same and will continue until Jesus returns for those who have been born again and endured to the end. (whether until their death, or Jesus' second coming)
Experiencing the NT rebirth was not possible until after Jesus was glorified and the Holy Spirit was poured at Pentecost. Peter revealed the keys necessary to gain entrance into the kingdom on that day. They parallel what Jesus stated during His ministry. Believe in Jesus and His sacrifice, repent, be baptized in His name for remission of sin, and receive the Holy Ghost as well. These NT requirements remain the same and will continue until Jesus returns for those who have been born again and endured to the end. (whether until their death, or Jesus' second coming)
Yes it really does matter, you would not feed meat to a toddler. Those who have been reborn already have the spirit and can understand better.
To be reborn we need to look at Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and the book of Acts.... NO WHERE will you see how to be reborn after those books.
So why so many different denominations? MEN get involved, why so many different twist on the KJV bible? MEN get involved.
If you following the CJB bible you are REALLY following the man who altered it, so it's David H. Stern and his PERSONAL views.
You are more than welcome to look at any so called bible's you wish but the person who twisted the KJV will not be the one judging you!! Most people find a bible that suits them, sad.
Matter a fact, when them who do moidife HIS word stand in front of JESUS this is what will happen to them.
Revelation 22:18-19
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
If you follow David H. Stern, and SPREAD David H. Stern WORDS as we will be held accoutable for EVERY word out of our mouth, you will also be found guilty!!!
Acts 2:38 and 22:16 are very clear, what to get rid of your sins, get baptized INTO JESUS NAME.
1 John 5:1 IS true, along with the rest of HIS word. But that book is also to those who have been saved.
To be reborn we need to look at Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and the book of Acts.... NO WHERE will you see how to be reborn after those books.
So why so many different denominations? MEN get involved, why so many different twist on the KJV bible? MEN get involved.
If you following the CJB bible you are REALLY following the man who altered it, so it's David H. Stern and his PERSONAL views.
You are more than welcome to look at any so called bible's you wish but the person who twisted the KJV will not be the one judging you!! Most people find a bible that suits them, sad.
Matter a fact, when them who do moidife HIS word stand in front of JESUS this is what will happen to them.
Revelation 22:18-19
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
If you follow David H. Stern, and SPREAD David H. Stern WORDS as we will be held accoutable for EVERY word out of our mouth, you will also be found guilty!!!
Acts 2:38 and 22:16 are very clear, what to get rid of your sins, get baptized INTO JESUS NAME.
1 John 5:1 IS true, along with the rest of HIS word. But that book is also to those who have been saved.
No so.
Jesus said Peter would be converted. (Luke 22:31-32)And Peter told people to repent and be converted pointing back to what he presented in Jerusalem on the Day of Pentecost. (Acts 3:19, Acts 2:36-42) Consider as well that Jesus said except a person is converted they shall not enter the kingdom. His comment parallels what He said in John 3:5; and what He said there parallels the requirements Peter presented FIRST in Jerusalem. (Matt. 18:3, John 3:3-5, Acts 2:38)
Jesus said Peter would be converted. (Luke 22:31-32)And Peter told people to repent and be converted pointing back to what he presented in Jerusalem on the Day of Pentecost. (Acts 3:19, Acts 2:36-42) Consider as well that Jesus said except a person is converted they shall not enter the kingdom. His comment parallels what He said in John 3:5; and what He said there parallels the requirements Peter presented FIRST in Jerusalem. (Matt. 18:3, John 3:3-5, Acts 2:38)
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Didn't Jesus say a man would lay down his life for his friends. And Jesus revealed through Peter that the revelation of the Father of the person of the Lord Jesus Christ is what makes one a member of the church and the bride of Christ.
What makes a person who is hostile to God, incapable of doing good, and having no righteousness suddenly do all that you suggest? What changed their mind, their heart, and their will that they willingly do all that you say they will do?
What makes a person who is hostile to God, incapable of doing good, and having no righteousness suddenly do all that you suggest? What changed their mind, their heart, and their will that they willingly do all that you say they will do?
who did this, you or your scholar? This is a commentary on another person's APPLICATION of the text.
I read Acts 19, and I provided it.
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19 While Apollos was at Corinth, Paul took the road through the interior and arrived at Ephesus. There he found some disciples 2 and asked them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?”
I read Acts 19, and I provided it.
Verse 1
Opening text Subject matter
19 While Apollos was at Corinth, Paul took the road through the interior and arrived at Ephesus. There he found some disciples 2 and asked them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?”
I read the KJVNKJNIVNASB1911VersionLiving Tranlation
All those Bibles say we are saved BY Grace Through faith. Baptism is not mentioned in it. Jesus said in John 3:16
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
I know The Lord Jesus clearly is wrong, and you are right. Baptism always followed salvation as the first act of obedience.
To clarify, I have never said not to be baptized. I am saying that Baptism in Jesus' name only for salvation is an error. And for those baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, baptism is valid.
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Cameron,
We are made in the image of God.
We are not made "hostile to God".
We are not made "incapable of doing good".
And yes we are made with the ability for righteousness.
We have the freewill to do the above things. We are not mindless animals who will not be judged for our freewill choices.
We are not bound to a fate between the unchosen masses vs. the chosen few. We have the ability to chose right from wrong and that ability is build into us and not hidden from us by God.
Why do you insist on fighting this axiom?
We are made in the image of God.
We are not made "hostile to God".
We are not made "incapable of doing good".
And yes we are made with the ability for righteousness.
We have the freewill to do the above things. We are not mindless animals who will not be judged for our freewill choices.
We are not bound to a fate between the unchosen masses vs. the chosen few. We have the ability to chose right from wrong and that ability is build into us and not hidden from us by God.
Why do you insist on fighting this axiom?
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I have no doubt from what we read in the Book of Acts that the original Disciples now Apostles as they traveled like missionaries continued to water Baptize like they did in Acts.
The very fact that Paul writes about being water Baptized is our experience of being dead, buried, and then resurrected just like Jesus explains just how important being water Baptized is.
The very fact that Paul writes about being water Baptized is our experience of being dead, buried, and then resurrected just like Jesus explains just how important being water Baptized is.
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I copied and pasted that.
I always believed anyone who was water Baptized by John the Baptist would later need to be water Baptized the way the Disciples were water Baptizing because Jesus told them to do it.
So whether how we look at Acts 19 doesn't matter because they were water Baptized by John the Baptist and required to be water Baptized like they were doing it in the Book of Acts.
I always believed anyone who was water Baptized by John the Baptist would later need to be water Baptized the way the Disciples were water Baptizing because Jesus told them to do it.
So whether how we look at Acts 19 doesn't matter because they were water Baptized by John the Baptist and required to be water Baptized like they were doing it in the Book of Acts.
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FYI, it was not I who said to another person here that they are not saved; you did. You are arrogant and rude, which I have no issue with returning in like manner when one tells other young believers they are not saved. Then you want to play the victim about being a bully if it's too hot to get out of the kitchen, guy. And you don't know the Greek that is clear. Now you want to talk about love and try to do some Jedi mind tricks.
And I did reply to your question get your eyes checked
My first question to you was SHOW ME where ANYONE was baptized in JESUS titles. NO REPLY, I will put a check
pose to be humble.
I think you were not the first to ask a similar question.
I stated that no one I saw was water-baptized; they recorded what was said at the time they went down in the water.
John the Baptist's words were not recorded. It states He baptized Jesus, but no words were said. Philp baptized the Enuice, and no words were said.
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