The False Teaching (& Truth) of what happens at the Rapture.
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It is interesting that the pretribbers keep very far away from the 10 plagues of Egypt, even though there is a lot of overlap between the 10 plagues and the various judgments on the earth during the Trib.
They use Rev 3:10 as "proof" that believers will be removed from earth during the Trib, yet God did NO SUCH THING with the Jews who REMAINED in Egypt, all the while the 10 plagues were administered.
God can keep faithful believers from His judgments, even though martyrdom will be common during the Trib.
In fact, Rev 3:10 is a promise ONLY for faithful believers.
"Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth."
So there is a condition for believers to be "kept from the hour of trial". They have to "patiently endure".
They use Rev 3:10 as "proof" that believers will be removed from earth during the Trib, yet God did NO SUCH THING with the Jews who REMAINED in Egypt, all the while the 10 plagues were administered.
God can keep faithful believers from His judgments, even though martyrdom will be common during the Trib.
In fact, Rev 3:10 is a promise ONLY for faithful believers.
"Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth."
So there is a condition for believers to be "kept from the hour of trial". They have to "patiently endure".
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Never said either left earth..
You guys claim there is a rapture at the Lords coming.
Jesus said his coming will be as lot and Noah.
So now in your desperation you are saying nobody leaves at his coming.
His people never leave sodom and noah never leaves earth????
Lol
You just painted yourself into yet another corner by saying there is no gathering/ rapture at Jesu coming with lot and noah ,as the examples of Jesus is given.
Oh wait...They leave AFTER the flood /fire huh????
Like your doctrine depicts???
Or maybe just stick to no rapture at all?
Too funny.
Too funny.
No rapture huh?
You guys claim there is a rapture at the Lords coming.
Jesus said his coming will be as lot and Noah.
So now in your desperation you are saying nobody leaves at his coming.
His people never leave sodom and noah never leaves earth????
Lol
You just painted yourself into yet another corner by saying there is no gathering/ rapture at Jesu coming with lot and noah ,as the examples of Jesus is given.
Oh wait...They leave AFTER the flood /fire huh????
Like your doctrine depicts???
Or maybe just stick to no rapture at all?
Too funny.
Too funny.
No rapture huh?
Go read the next few verses genius. That's describing the status quo, folks are eating and drinking like normal. Both the wicked and the good servants are still there, both the wise and foolish virgins are still there - TILL the bridegroom is coming. Why is nobody raptured? Keep laughing, pal. You're pathetic.
Not enough to spoon feed it to you huh???
15 And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.
16 And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the Lord being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him without the city.
They drug him and his family out.
But hey, make it say what you will.
It is just somehow in you to change it.
15 And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.
16 And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the Lord being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him without the city.
They drug him and his family out.
But hey, make it say what you will.
It is just somehow in you to change it.
Oh really?
You admit the setting is normal life like , as in a pretrib setting?
Thanks!
You are correct. It is NOT a postrib setting for the rapture.
I had forgotten about that.
Thanks for verifying it is a pretrib setting, and gathering ,as in lot and noah.
Neither are a postrib dynamic at all.
Yes postribbers shy away from that too.
.....or just omit it.
You admit the setting is normal life like , as in a pretrib setting?
Thanks!
You are correct. It is NOT a postrib setting for the rapture.
I had forgotten about that.
Thanks for verifying it is a pretrib setting, and gathering ,as in lot and noah.
Neither are a postrib dynamic at all.
Yes postribbers shy away from that too.
.....or just omit it.
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Bottom line is noah entered the ark of protection by 2 things, faith and grace. The same as us.
He was saved from judgement by these 2 things.
"And the Lord shut him in".
The angels told lot that he has to be removed from sodom first before judgement starts.
Jesus said "I stand at the door and knock" if any man answers I will come and sup with him.
Paul said we are not appointed to wrath.
Noah was saved by grace and faith. Lot was saved by answering the (call) door and inviting the Lord in.
Both were saved by the word of the Lord. None had gone through or were harmed in any way by the judgement. They both escaped before judgement began.
He was saved from judgement by these 2 things.
"And the Lord shut him in".
The angels told lot that he has to be removed from sodom first before judgement starts.
Jesus said "I stand at the door and knock" if any man answers I will come and sup with him.
Paul said we are not appointed to wrath.
Noah was saved by grace and faith. Lot was saved by answering the (call) door and inviting the Lord in.
Both were saved by the word of the Lord. None had gone through or were harmed in any way by the judgement. They both escaped before judgement began.
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