The god of CCM is the Antichrist

Lifetrack · May 25, 2015

When you love music then you like sertain styles, this can be revival, jazz, rock or whatever. If it is worship to God, it can be blessed, if it is ego then it will be cast away.

SarahM777 · May 25, 2015

ChosenbyHim said:

Do you really want to rehash this all again or can we just get the point that what is need in all of this is DISCERNMENT?

zoii · May 25, 2015

ChosenbyHim said:

What's wrong with CCM?

Simply, it's of the world. CCM does not exalt the Lord Jesus Christ. CCM exalts its 'performers.' CCM promotes the singer and the music, instead of God.

CCM is of the world which is why the world welcomes CCM. Ever notice how CCM is readily accepted by the ungodly? The lost world has never embraced or welcomed the Great Hymns of the Faith.

But they do accept CCM, whether it be "Christian" rock, or "Christian" hip-hop, or "Christian" Rhythm & Blues (R&B). And again, why? Well because CCM is of the world. That is why the world receives and loves CCM.

So called "Christian" rock exalts and elevates the flesh, and not the spirit. Another thing that's wrong with CCM is that CCM artists, a lot of them, sing and perform songs by secular rock groups. (i.e. The band Deliverance has on one of their albums a song ('After Forever') by the wicked and vile rock group Black Sabbath.; 2 Pound Planet sings Bohemian Rhapsody a song by secular group Queen;
DC Talk sings and performs All Apologies by the wicked and blasphemous artist Nirvana.

Furthermore, Rock groups and artists openly admit that their music is ungodly:

"Listen, rock ‘n roll AIN’T CHURCH. It’s nasty business. You gotta be nasty too. If you’re goody, goody, you can’t sing or play it..." (Lita Ford of heavy metal group The Runaways, Los Angeles Times, August 7, 1988).

With her quote, Lita Ford is basically also admitting to the fact that Christianity and Rock and Roll don't mix. You cannot mix them. Even other secular rock artists will admit that.

Newsweek once called Mick Jagger ‘the Lucifer of rock, the unholy roller’ and spoke of ‘his demonic power to affect people.’ (Newsweek, 4 Jan. 1971, quoted in Can we Rock the Gospel, Blanchard, p. 97)

John Lennon:
"I've sold my soul to the DEVIL." (Ray Coleman, Lennon, p.256)

David Bowie:
"Rock has always been THE DEVIL'S MUSIC. . ." (Rolling Stone, Feb. 12, 1976)

"... the whole idea of rock ‘n’ roll is to offend your parents"(Rock drummer King Coffey, The Truth about Rock, p. 30).

To conclude: There is nothing sacred or holy about rock music, whether it is CCM or Secular.

Oh for Petes sake. This wasted precious oxygen reading it

Pumicestone · May 25, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvLkc5IhF4I

Try it. You'll like it.
But do listen all the way through.

BobbaFett · May 25, 2015

nirvana, one of the greatest rock bands to EVER grace this planet.

Agricola · May 25, 2015

skylove7 said:

Do not worry I did not know what CCM was either, I am not an expert on grammer, but I do remember one thing, when using abbreviations always type it in full first, then go ahead and use the abbreviation.

didymos · May 25, 2015

ChosenbyHim said:

...So called "Christian" rock exalts and elevates the flesh, and not the spirit. Another thing that's wrong with CCM is that CCM artists, a lot of them, sing and perform songs by secular rock groups. (i.e. The band Deliverance has on one of their albums a song ('After Forever') by the wicked and vile rock group Black Sabbath.; 2 Pound Planet sings Bohemian Rhapsody a song by secular group Queen;
DC Talk sings and performs All Apologies by the wicked and blasphemous artist Nirvana...

...........

posthuman · May 25, 2015

ChosenbyHim said:

i do like this part of that song:

married
buried
yeah, yeah, yeah yeah

want to know why?

married:

Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish.
(Ephesians 5:25-27)

buried:

We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
(Romans 6:4)

yeah yeah yeah yeah:

Let the godly exult in glory; let them sing for joy on their beds.
(Psalm 149:5)

allow me to change the lyrics a little bit (msr. Cobain wrote "sun"):

In the Son
In the Son I feel as one
In the Son
In the Son
Married!
Buried!
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

↑ now does anyone mind if i just sing that?

didymos · May 25, 2015

posthuman said:

i do like this part of that song:

married
buried
yeah, yeah, yeah yeah

want to know why?

married:

Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish.
(Ephesians 5:25-27)

buried:

We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
(Romans 6:4)

yeah yeah yeah yeah:

Let the godly exult in glory; let them sing for joy on their beds.
(Psalm 149:5)

allow me to change the lyrics a little bit (msr. Cobain wrote "sun"):

In the Son
In the Son I feel as one
In the Son
In the Son
Married!
Buried!
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

↑ now does anyone mind if i just sing that?

Hey - He's the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
Don't know what it means, when I say... yeah...

(Actually nobody does)

posthuman · May 25, 2015

Sirk said:

we sing this one too! ♥

Yah is a warrior; the LORD is his name.
(Exodus 15:3)

i think finding goodness is in part a matter of ceasing to specifically look for evil everywhere.
but i guess much depends on the One who made the eyes, opening them to see.

KohenMatt · May 25, 2015

I'm always disappointed with myself whenever I choose to open these threads.....

posthuman · May 25, 2015

posthuman said:

having some trouble finding any recording of DC Talk singing this.
but an indie-rock group of Christians calling themselves "The Walking Tree" that i'm fond of recorded this late last year:

[video=youtube;MK_7qTNWmEs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK_7qTNWmEs[/video]

they changed the lyrics a bit too, singing

all in all is all You are

why would they do that?

When all things are subjected to him,
then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him,
that God may be all in all.
(1 Corinthians 15:28)

Here there is not Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave, free;
but Christ is all, and in all.
(Colossians 3:11)

if this is used to glorify the Son, and to edify the saints, and in expression of joy over the gift of our salvation, why call it "evil" ? isn't it 'attributing the work of the Spirit to Satan' that we refer to as the 'unforgivable sin' ?

may He give us discernment, to judge rightly, and not by appearance.

Sirk · May 25, 2015

posthuman said:

having some trouble finding any recording of DC Talk singing this.
but an indie-rock group of Christians calling themselves "The Walking Tree" that i'm fond of recorded this late last year:

[video=youtube;MK_7qTNWmEs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK_7qTNWmEs[/video]

they changed the lyrics a bit too, singing

all in all is all You are

why would they do that?

When all things are subjected to him,
then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him,
that God may be all in all.
(1 Corinthians 15:28)

Here there is not Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave, free;
but Christ is all, and in all.
(Colossians 3:11)

if this is used to glorify the Son, and to edify the saints, and in expression of joy over the gift of our salvation, why call it "evil" ? isn't it 'attributing the work of the Spirit to Satan' that we refer to as the 'unforgivable sin' ?

may He give us discernment, to judge rightly, and not by appearance.

Wow...that is a really great version of this song... I was 18 and living in Seattle when Nirvana was breaking out. Pretty cool time it was.

Sirk · May 25, 2015

Is this antichrist.....or just really really bad?

[video=youtube;7-NOZU2iPA8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-NOZU2iPA8[/video]

Budman · May 25, 2015

Much CCM is repetitive and seems designed to target "feelings" instead of substance. But, of course, nothing produced by man can be perfect.

That being said, I do believe some CCM can be edifying.

Willie-T · May 25, 2015

skylove7 said:

That is so very cool!!!!!!

Willie-T · May 25, 2015

I have to admit that I get very tired of 7/11 music.

Willie-T · May 25, 2015

This is still CCM to me.

[video=youtube;hg7HEsCEQ54]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg7HEsCEQ54[/video]

eternallife7 · May 25, 2015

Willie-T said:

I am trying to learn myself, and I am finding it not too difficult to learn. It is working the music score software that I am having trouble with.

Also Im sure there probably is some corruption in CCM like many other things in the world, but to say that someone should play the violin instead of an electric guitar to sing about God, I do not know, it just doesn't make since to me. (not to Willie T but in general)

psychomom · May 25, 2015

i wonder how many of the 'old' hymns we sing at church
were considered evil and too contemporary in their day?

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