The Jezebel Spirit

[Stephen63]

Here's the latest template:

JS claims a prophetic office & exercises the false prophet's position. This office of prophet is determined by what we previously read in the Bible dictionaries.
JS does teach false doctrine
JS leads the church astray into spiritual whoredom
JS has to have an "Ahab" to have authority and dominion, which means someone in a leadership role to use them.

If they meet 87% of the qualifications of this template, what would you suggest calling them?

A false prophet.

So, if they meet 100% of the requirements, they're a false prophet and have a Jezebel spirit.

If they meet 87% of the requirements, meaning they don't claim to be a prophet, they are still labeled as a false prophet and not one with the Jezebel spirit?. It seems to me that someone is steering every which way to keep from admitting the obvious.

Does anybody else see this besides me?

 

[1still_waters]

UMM Stephen,

Do you mean this John Paul Jackson? (Whom just happens to be on Benny Hinn's show?)

[video=youtube;lHFJ22iHn64]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHFJ22iHn64[/video]

Posting of his content may not necessarily be endorsement by Stephen.
He did say..

In this thread, will be looking at traits and attitudes of the Jezebel spirit. We will be using writings from the Internet on this topic,

 

[Stephen63]

Disclaimer:

It is not the purpose of the op to use this thread for personal gain. The purpose of this thread is to educate those reading to understand what this " Jezebel spirit" is all about, to see its characteristics, and to spot one whenever near them, & to know how dangerous it is. It is for the reader alone to make their own decisions based on this information.

Anyone striving to cover up this purpose needs to be scrutinized carefully. If anyone is trying to cover up this purpose, it should be considered as a possible testimony that this issue does exist, otherwise there would be no need to cover it up.

 

[Stephen63]

UMM Stephen,

Do you mean this John Paul Jackson? (Whom just happens to be on Benny Hinn's show?)

[video=youtube;lHFJ22iHn64]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHFJ22iHn64[/video]

Posting of his content may not necessarily be endorsement by Stephen.
He did say..

I do not know if that is him or not. If it is, it means nothing to me, because those with Jezebel spirits will do what ever needs to be done to deflect suspicion on them. Benny Hinn, and others like him, do this on a regular basis to increase their credibility. After all that's one of the main characteristics of the Jezebel spirit........ to increase their credibility.
Since his name is now mentioned, people like Benny Hinn have full control of their ministry and their constituents. Pretty much what he says goes. Sound familiar? thank you Stilly, for bringing it to my attention. And Stilly's right........ I don't endorse the author, neither the person who speaks about this book on the website. They are purely for educational purposes only.

 

[Stephen63]

If anyone does not trust the article currently used, we are ready to accommodate that. I have several websites lined up just in case that happens.

 

[SarahM777]

Posting of his content may not necessarily be endorsement by Stephen.
He did say..

My point is if it the same person,then how do we know that the Holy Spirit is actually speaking through John Paul Jackson and how much is actually true? If not then could he have his own agenda? I think that is a question that should be asked.

 

[Stephen63]

Continuing......

Ministering to the Jezebel Spirit

Jackson gives helpful guidelines for ministering to people with a Jezebel spirit. He advocates that such a person needs to be unflinchingly resolved in his purpose; a ‘spiritual eunuch’ who will not be tempted by the lust of the eyes or the pride of life. Jackson also supplies a list of ‘key phrases’ that may indicate that a Jezebel spirit is operating in someone’s life. (See especially pages 146-148 and 174-177) There is also an important chapter on ‘Reclaiming the Followers of Jezebel’ and helping them to reintegrate into ‘normal’ Christian life after the contamination of being taken in by this virulent deception.

From our own experience of confronting this spirit, my greatest longing has always been to see something good emerge from the battle some ‘profit on the trouble’. I was comforted to read Jackson’s assertion that, ‘If handled rightly, an attack by a Jezebel spirit will ultimately strengthen a church. Small battles produce small victories, but great battles produce great victories in our lives, in our ministries and in our churches.’

Again, I will agree with this section that deliverance & restoration should be the goals in dealing with someone with the Jezebel spirit. Only as a last resort should excommunication be used.

Matthew 18:15-17
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. [SUP]16 [/SUP]But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. [SUP]17 [/SUP]And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

The followers of a Jezebel spirit also need to be carefully scrutinized. At face value, it's difficult to determine whether they have that spirit themselves or are simply unaware they're being used. Either way, the same should be offered to them: deliverance, restoration, & forgiveness.

 

[1still_waters]

If anyone is trying to cover up this purpose, it should be considered as a possible testimony that this issue does exist, otherwise there would be no need to cover it up.

Very good standard to go by here.
If someone puts up a strong fight/resistance when someone is trying to expose/reveal lies, heresies, errors, dangers, it may in fact be proof that said things do exist.

And those raising objection to said exposing, may have to be "scrutinized carefully".

 

[Stephen63]

If anyone does not trust the article currently used, we are ready to accommodate that. I have several websites lined up just in case that happens.

My point is if it the same person,then how do we know that the Holy Spirit is actually speaking through John Paul Jackson and how much is actually true? If not then could he have his own agenda? I think that is a question that should be asked.

Tell me plainly......... Do you not believe this source is proper? If so, we will change it. What is your answer?

 

[SarahM777]

Tell me plainly......... Do you not believe this source is proper? If so, we will change it. What is your answer?

At this point I'm not sure,but there is enough I think we should be careful with it. Just a bit of caution at this point is what I'm trying to say.

 

[Stephen63]

At this point I'm not sure,but there is enough I think we should be careful with it. Just a bit of caution at this point is what I'm trying to say.

Understood. If a writer has an agenda, it's usually to be famous, rich, & revered. It can be also to teach false doctrine.

A common occurrence is that someone will gather info on other's writings, steal it, then write his "own" book, knowing nothing previously on the topic.

Another way still is to hire a ghost writer to write the whole book, then they put their own name on it. Many "ministers" with the Jezebel spirit do this to increase income, fame, & validity. It's hard to determine or make claim that someone has a Jezebel spirit if they have 2 or 3 christian bestsellers in the bookstore.

 

[Stephen63]

It's actually my personal goal in this thread to push readers to be Bereans, to study & think for themselves. Good point, SarahM777.

 

[my_adonai_]

From whatever we learn, if we ask the LORD on the truth behind HE will tell us.
The Lord can also govern what we read, take in and believe if we just trust HIM too. So whether stephen has a credible source or not, it is only good to know that we can just go back to GOD and ask HIM to govern us on that tip.
For those that can not hear the Lords voice, or understand HIS revelation, then thats what they need to work on.
because righteous judgement is given A GO AHEAD by HIM. as the word of GOD says, that the Spirit of GOD will guide us into ALL TRUTH.

 

[Stephen63]

Continuing.......

Are we right to explore such things?

Bearing in mind Paul’s stricture that we should have nothing to do with the works of darkness, do we need to delve into such murky areas? (Eph. 5:11) My answer would be an emphatic ‘yes’. I believe the Church is in great need of having its eyes opened to the way in which this spirit, and its followers, operate. The effects of the Jezebel spirit can bring untold oppression and misery into people’s lives, especially in terms of emasculating Christian leaders. The second part of the
Ephesians 5:11 verse stresses that we are to expose these works of darkness. We ignore the Jezebel spirit at our peril.

I had to look up the word emasculate. Sounded bad. Found out it is, & then some!
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)tr.v. 1. To castrate.
2. To deprive of strength or vigor; weaken.
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t)Deprived of virility, strength, or vigor.

That's enough to make one cringe. To spiritually "castrate" a leader to me is like the next best thing to killing them!

If the leadership is made fruitless & useless, it exposes the congregation to all types of evil.

Has anyone experienced a church losing a good leader to such things, then having him replaced with a liberal ?
Today's churches are getting liberals as pastors in record numbers. It's time Bereans do the math.

 

[1still_waters]

So, if they meet 100% of the requirements, they're a false prophet and have a Jezebel spirit.

If they meet 87% of the requirements, meaning they don't claim to be a prophet, they are still labeled as a false prophet and not one with the Jezebel spirit?. It seems to me that someone is steering every which way to keep from admitting the obvious.

Does anybody else see this besides me?

I thought you were omitting the last two things as a way to get a rough estimate.
I'm not dropping the first one at all, and my adamant insistence on the first one, should be enough to know that I wouldn't apply JS to someone without having the first one.

What do you mean by this statement?

It seems to me that someone is steering every which way to keep from admitting the obvious.

 

[SarahM777]

UMM Can I ask a seemly silly question? Can someone show me where this verse says spirit at all?

Revelation 2

20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

I looked and I looked and I just don't see it. Can someone find that word for me please?

 

[Abiding]

UMM Can I ask a seemly silly question? Can someone show me where this verse says spirit at all?

Revelation 2

20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

I looked and I looked and I just don't see it. Can someone find that word for me please?

Hey! how dare you mess with my "wind of doctrine"

 

[Stephen63]

I thought you were omitting the last two things as a way to get a rough estimate.
I'm not dropping the first one at all, and my adamant insistence on the first one, should be enough to know that I wouldn't apply JS to someone without having the first one.

What do you mean by this statement?

There are 2 sides to every story. Your side seems to want to prove what constitutes a false prophet, & my side seems to want to prove what constitutes a jezebel spirit, all the while talking about the same scripture. I ask for consensus & I'm told this is how it is. That's not a consensus. We obviously can't have a consensus. There has to be some neutrality before that.

 

[SarahM777]

Hey! how dare you mess with my "wind of doctrine"

But,but,but I just can't find it. Did someone mess with the type setting and it's not in my Bible? I'm trying to find it,really I am.

 

[Stephen63]

UMM Can I ask a seemly silly question? Can someone show me where this verse says spirit at all?

Revelation 2

20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

I looked and I looked and I just don't see it. Can someone find that word for me please?

As I have said in the op, & recently, this phrase is used for a point of reference. I wish it had a better name.

To say this woman in Revelation didn't have a demon spirit leading/possessing her to bring destruction to the church would be ludicrous.