The kingdom of God is not coming with signs that can be observed?

[Journeyman]

One of the worst arguments against our Lord Jesus reigning now, is that evil exists.

God has always reigned over mankind, regardless of the evil being committed.

This is where unbelievers have no clue about the cross of Christ. They think mankind reigned over Jesus, putting him to death.

Knowing the love of God toward those who hate him, how foolish to think Christ does't reign on earth,

Although a wicked person who commits a hundred crimes may live a long time, I know that it will go better with those who fear God, who are reverent before him. Ecc.8:12

 

[Dirtman]

The verse above is from Luke 17:20 (NASB). The NKJV says: "The kingdom of God does not come with observation;"

Jesus says the Kingdom doesn't come with signs, or in ways that can be observed. But isn't that exactly what happened? What do you make of this verse?

I think He is referring to His second coming. Which is why I think I am A- millennial.

 

[Beckie]

Jesus is not reigning over the earth. If so, how’s he doing? How’s the governor of Chicago doing ruling that city? It’s a mess. The earth is a mess. Some day, he will reign on this earth and restore all things, but not yet.

Dispensational low view of God the Father, God the Son, and God Spirit, for all to see.

 

[John146]

Dispensational low view of God the Father, God the Son, and God Spirit, for all to see.

How low can you get to think Jesus is presently ruling this earth…wow.

 

[John146]

One of the worst arguments against our Lord Jesus reigning now, is that evil exists.

God has always reigned over mankind, regardless of the evil being committed.

This is where unbelievers have no clue about the cross of Christ. They think mankind reigned over Jesus, putting him to death.

Knowing the love of God toward those who hate him, how foolish to think Christ does't reign on earth,

Although a wicked person who commits a hundred crimes may live a long time, I know that it will go better with those who fear God, who are reverent before him. Ecc.8:12

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

 

[Iconoclast]

prophecy…Jesus is not governing the nations. If he is, he’s doing a poor job. Hows the governor of Chicago doing? Terrible, Chicago is a mess. So is this world. When the Lord comes the second time, he will place the government upon his shoulder and rule with a rod of iron in righteousness.

You are ignoring the verses offered. He is ruling with a rod of iron;

every idle word you speak you will give an account of in the day of judgement.

Was Jesus in control when satan afflicted JOB?

It is not judgment day yet, is it?

Every single sin will be punished, in the sinner or the substitute.

 

[peldom10]

The verse above is from Luke 17:20 (NASB). The NKJV says: "The kingdom of God does not come with observation;"

Jesus says the Kingdom doesn't come with signs, or in ways that can be observed. But isn't that exactly what happened? What do you make of this verse?

Never understandable in view of the over whelming warnings.....do not sleep...look up....stay awake...do not return to the housetop for items. ..stay ready.
Therefore.....The kingdom doesn't come with signs.....is a reuse ...................and must be usurped with common sense.

 

[Journeyman]

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Yes, unbelief causes blindness. In Christ, blindness is cured.

 

[John146]

You are ignoring the verses offered. He is ruling with a rod of iron;

every idle word you speak you will give an account of in the day of judgement.

Was Jesus in control when satan afflicted JOB?

It is not judgment day yet, is it?

Every single sin will be punished, in the sinner or the substitute.

This is yet future…

Matthew 25:
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

 

[Adstar]

Here do i fined the passage that says Throne of David in Jerusalem. Luke 1:32 comes close but that is not what it says.


Luk_1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

Scriptures showing the physical return of the LORD Jesus on the day of the LORD..

(Zechariah 14:1-4) "Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. {2} For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. {3} Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. {4} ¶ And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south."

Later in the same Chapter it reveals::
Zechariah14
16 ¶ And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

 

[presidente]

Some people associate the coming of the kingdom of God with Jesus returning to earth, rather than some of the prior stages. The Psalms, and various New Testament scriptures that quote it, record how Yahweh says to David's Lord 'Sit at my right hand until I make Thine enemies Thy footstool.' Paul says that He must reign until He has put all enemies under His feet. We also read that Yahweh told the Messiah, Ask of Me and I will give you the nations for your inheritance.

After the resurrection, Jesus told the eleven that all authority had been given to Him on heaven and on earth, and He sent them to teach and baptize the nations.

Then Christ ascended, where He is seated on the right hand of the Father. The reign of the kingdom of God has begun. There are future plans. The disciples, before the ascension, asked if the Lord Jesus would at that time restore the kingdom to Israel. He told them it was not for them to know the times set by His Father's own power. He did not say that no kingdom would be restored to Israel.

If we think 'the kingdom of God' is limited to the Second Coming, to Christ restoring the kingdom to Israel, or later events of eschatology, we will misunderstand. Christ is reigning at God's right hand now.