The Law Is Out Of Date And Will "SOON DISAPPEAR"?

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Pilgrimshope

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#81
Jesus never broke the Sabbath of the Ten Commandments, He broke the sabbath of the pharisees, which they added many rules to it, when Christ told us not to alter His Words Psa 89:34 Pro 30:5-6 Claiming Christ worked on the sabbath as if He broke it is basically crucifying Him all over again.

God wrote His law in our hearts, now instead of on tables of stone, it is tables in our hearts and He gives us the power to keep. When we take away from what God placed there Jesus tells us our hearts are far from Him Mat 15:3-14 so seems like a bad idea to me

Jesus taught not to break the commandments John 14:15 Mat 15:3-14 Mat 5:19-30 Mat 19:17-19 and in doing so one would be in fear of sin and Judgement. Jesus said not to remove a jot or tittle from His law until all is fulfilled which is when He comes back on the Clouds and His saints meet Him in the air. We do not receive Christ rest (not the Sabbath rest) by being in rebellion to Him and His commandments Isa 48:18 Heb 4:6 Heb 4:11 which includes the Sabbath commandment that Jesus in His own Words said He kept. John 15:10 John 8:46-47 and is our example 1 John 2:6. I guess it just comes down to a matter of faith who do we beleive..
I see they had thier own sabbath and weren’t talking about the one that came through Moses from sinia …..
 

Pilgrimshope

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Matthew 5:17

King James Version

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.


John 19:30

King James Version

30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.


Hebrews 7:11-12

King James Version

11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.


Hebrews 9:14-17

King James Version

14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
indeed foret he told them this

“Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭5:17-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

then he explained it after he died and rose

“And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,( the Old Testament law and prophets is the only scripture at this point ) and said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. And ye are witnesses of these things.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭24:44-48‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the doctrine is no longer what Moses said but what the lord has said in his word and his word in the gospel is not just for Israel it’s for all people of all nations it’s the everlasting covenant according to the everlasting word and everlasting blood shed according to those words

“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

Pilgrimshope

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#83
I have to conclude here that the heart that has not turned to the Lord is veiled, and the glory they have is temporal. They belong to the church of Moses, and we know what condition that is currently in. It is currently sitting in rubble and has a shiny golden dome built on top of it like a glorified pimple on its face.
Yes but Paul’s explaining the difference in the glory of each covenant the law written on stones which ministered death to the hearers

And the glory of the new covenant which gives life to the hearers and how much better Christs word is than Moses words
 

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#84
What is your meaning of Spiritual healing?
The answer to that question rests at the very heart of the Bible:

John 9:39-41 NLT - "Then Jesus told him, "I entered this world to render judgment--to give sight to the blind and to show those who think they see that they are blind." Some Pharisees who were standing nearby heard him and asked, "Are you saying we're blind?" "If you were blind, you wouldn't be guilty," Jesus replied. "But you remain guilty because you claim you can see."
 

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For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass,

Another important phrase. Was Jesus's message mainly about physical or spiritual realities coming into play in history? Was the heavenly and earthly administration about to change?
 

Pilgrimshope

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Another important phrase. Was Jesus's message mainly about physical or spiritual realities coming into play in history? Was the heavenly and earthly administration about to change?
The promise changed from this creation to a new one he’s promised believers in him

The ot was based on inheriting this creation

“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

man was given earth and we corrupted it by rejecting Gods ways and so

The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant. Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.

The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly. The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭24:5-6, 19-20‬ ‭

about also he began promising this to the faithful who listened

“For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭65:17-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Aeschylus testament corresponds to the promise of inheritance this world we know now is defiled look around and so it’s purpose now is this

“but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.


…. Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:7, 10, 13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The old covenant is about this temporary world and life before anyone was promised eternal life before we were given the Holy Ghost of Jesus the Christ before we had remission of sins and before we were promised by the creator a new world to come later that we can’t look and see but we know by faith he will keep his promises

there are two testaments in the bi ke one is about this world the other is about the kingdom of God the new one

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the word is also new that corresponds to the salvation covenant and not the one ministering death for sin and based on mans transgression d fall

The new is based on Jesus success and righteousness and overcoming death removing sin ….

the spiritual reality is to hear the New Testament promises and believe it brings us to this place

“If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭3:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

this world is lost for certain the New Testament is trying to redeem us form th e new eternal one to come forth when Jesus does
 

Pilgrimshope

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Another important phrase. Was Jesus's message mainly about physical or spiritual realities coming into play in history? Was the heavenly and earthly administration about to change?
Was the heavenly and earthly administration about to change?

indeed from Moses mediation of the law to Jesus mediation of the gospel , from leviticAl preisthood to melchezidek the high priest of God , from animal blood to the blood of the lord Jesus the lamb of God , from cirecumvisuon of the flesh according to the law to circumcision of the heart by the gospel through baptism into his name

for certain the ministration changed from earth to heaven and from angels to God

“Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip. For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward;

how shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;

….For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:1-3, 5‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

Pilgrimshope

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Spell check as a browser add-on is very helpful .:D
I never learned to speak ancient computernese me no comprende 😂

what I mean is to summarize is “what is this “browser add on “ ( with hand gestures ) ? And how does one use spell check with it ? ……if “ magenta “ is your real name
 

Cameron143

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I never learned to speak ancient computernese me no comprende 😂

what I mean is to summarize is “what is this “browser add on “ ( with hand gestures ) ? And how does one use spell check with it ? ……if “ magenta “ is your real name
Typonese is not taught in school.
 

Cameron143

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Seriously what now I gotta learn what a “browser “ is and what a “ browser add on “ is ? Might as well go hunting for Bigfoot
Ask your nephew. He knows.
I only keep my kids around to help me with such things.
 

Magenta

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Seriously what now I gotta learn what a “browser “ is and what a “ browser add on “ is ? Might as well go hunting for Bigfoot
You are using a browser to access the net. Net is short for internet LOL. The internet
provided me with this info when I did a search asking, what is the internet? :


The internet is a worldwide computer network that transmits a variety of data and media
across interconnected devices 1. The basic structure behind the internet is simple


2: Computers and other devices have addresses.

Computers send and receive information to and from each other with these addresses.

When shared between computers, the information is turned into chunks of data the internet knows how
to handle. Some computers, called servers, can send out information to other computers upon request.


Any who, one of the most common browsers is Microsoft Edge (which replaced Internet Explorer [IE]
some time ago. That is the one that came with many HP devices [ = Windows = Bill Gates). There are
others such as Mozilla Forefox, Google Chrome, Avast (I use all four of those)... Opera, Safari (designed
and optimized for running on Apple devices as opposed to HP... Apple = Steve Jobs [RIP]).


They all use browsers to surf the web, and you are using a browser right now. Do you know which one?

Most browsers have extensions or add-ons that can be used to enhance the internet experience.

Spell check is one of them. When you type your words, it will red-underline incorrectly spelled words and
offer possible corrections so you can select the right one. Grammarly can also be used to help with grammar.
 

Magenta

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Ask your nephew. He knows.
I only keep my kids around to help me with such things.
When I first got a home computer in 2000, my daughter showed me many things, like how to copy and paste etc. Pretty soon after that I was showing her how stuff worked. LOL. It ain't rocket science (spell check does not like the word "ain't" LOL) and what I know is fairly remedial, but some of what I eventually did on my computer included designing web pages for a gaming site my daughter signed me up to, which was when I learned how to parse HTML a little bit. What is HTML?
  • HTML stands for Hyper Text Markup Language
  • HTML is the standard markup language for creating Web pages
  • HTML describes the structure of a Web page
  • HTML consists of a series of elements
  • HTML elements tell the browser how to display the content
  • HTML elements label pieces of content such as "this is a heading", "this is a paragraph", "this is a link", etc.
Surely you have seen what happens when people mess with the quote tags?
Often it is as simple as the HTML tags around the word quote. One either gets erased or if someone changes the font following the closing tag, to make the text bold or a different font face or colour, and the ] does not match the rest of the HTML quote tags, it causes and error that can be confusing for anyone reading the post itself and any other post that quotes the same messed up post.
 

Cameron143

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When I first got a home computer in 2000, my daughter showed me many things, like how to copy and paste etc. Pretty soon after that I was showing her how stuff worked. LOL. It ain't rocket science (spell check does not like the word "ain't" LOL) and what I know is fairly remedial, but some of what I eventually did on my computer included designing web pages for a gaming site my daughter signed me up to, which was when I learned how to parse HTML a little bit. What is HTML?
  • HTML stands for Hyper Text Markup Language
  • HTML is the standard markup language for creating Web pages
  • HTML describes the structure of a Web page
  • HTML consists of a series of elements
  • HTML elements tell the browser how to display the content
  • HTML elements label pieces of content such as "this is a heading", "this is a paragraph", "this is a link", etc.
With less brain cells available to me these days, I can't afford to waste any on things I can get my servants...ummmm...children to do.
 

Pilgrimshope

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#97
You are using a browser to access the net. Net is short for internet LOL. The internet
provided me with this info when I did a search asking, what is the internet? :


The internet is a worldwide computer network that transmits a variety of data and media
across interconnected devices 1. The basic structure behind the internet is simple


2: Computers and other devices have addresses.

Computers send and receive information to and from each other with these addresses.

When shared between computers, the information is turned into chunks of data the internet knows how
to handle. Some computers, called servers, can send out information to other computers upon request.


Any who, one of the most common browsers is Microsoft Edge (which replaced Internet Explorer [IE]
some time ago. That is the one that came with many HP devices [ = Windows = Bill Gates). There are
others such as Mozilla Forefox, Google Chrome, Avast (I use all four of those)... Opera, Safari (designed
and optimized for running on Apple devices as opposed to HP... Apple = Steve Jobs [RIP]).


They all use browsers to surf the web, and you are using a browser right now. Do you know which one?

Most browsers have extensions or add-ons that can be used to enhance the internet experience.

Spell check is one of them. When you type your words, it will red-underline incorrectly spelled words and
offer possible corrections so you can select the right one. Grammarly can also be used to help with grammar.
Chang Chong chow choo chi
 

studier

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#98
this world is lost for certain the New Testament is trying to redeem us form th e new eternal one to come forth when Jesus does
Some say He already came and the new order is in place and leavening the world. They acknowledge that He will come again, but say His Body is not recognizing who they are in Him now - in the One with all authority in Heaven and on earth.
 

Pilgrimshope

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#99
You are using a browser to access the net. Net is short for internet LOL. The internet
provided me with this info when I did a search asking, what is the internet? :


The internet is a worldwide computer network that transmits a variety of data and media
across interconnected devices 1. The basic structure behind the internet is simple


2: Computers and other devices have addresses.

Computers send and receive information to and from each other with these addresses.

When shared between computers, the information is turned into chunks of data the internet knows how
to handle. Some computers, called servers, can send out information to other computers upon request.


Any who, one of the most common browsers is Microsoft Edge (which replaced Internet Explorer [IE]
some time ago. That is the one that came with many HP devices [ = Windows = Bill Gates). There are
others such as Mozilla Forefox, Google Chrome, Avast (I use all four of those)... Opera, Safari (designed
and optimized for running on Apple devices as opposed to HP... Apple = Steve Jobs [RIP]).


They all use browsers to surf the web, and you are using a browser right now. Do you know which one?

Most browsers have extensions or add-ons that can be used to enhance the internet experience.

Spell check is one of them. When you type your words, it will red-underline incorrectly spelled words and
offer possible corrections so you can select the right one. Grammarly can also be used to help with grammar.
Is a browser where I type web addresses ? It always corrects my spelling that little white slot thing ?
 

studier

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this world is lost for certain the New Testament is trying to redeem us form th e new eternal one to come forth when Jesus does
Some say He already came and the new order is in place and leavening the world. They acknowledge that He will come again, but say His Body is not recognizing who they are in Him now - in the One with all authority in Heaven and on earth.