The Law is perfect for converting the soul...
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You see if you continue in the law of moses you are crucifying the Lord then you would have to kill oxen sheep and goats etc to make attonement for you , but what if the law cannot save you wich cannot save at all only the blood of Our LORD can save us the decrees that do stay are the righteous things of all scripture in the righreousness of the spirit by fulfilling the law of Christ walking as he walked and now making all sin unlawful by worshipping in the spirit we fullfill the ten commandments and more but ill leave you in peace ,peace of christ be with you
So in this in isaiah God spoke and said i will add your younger sister and your older sister and they will establish an everlasting covenant with them but not by thy covenant in isaiah 8 it says to bind up the law and tge testinomy within gjy disciples a bi.ding and seal a stop of the law and it was spoken that this would be a stumbling block to both houses in israel
That is not the issue. Paul is talking about a woman who is already married, if she marry another man (two husbands) she is an adulteress. BUt if here husband be dead she is free to marry and not be an adulteress.
Paul is continuing the analogy he is making with the woman..."if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man." Likewise for the Christian married to Christ "ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another"
So like the woman's whose husband is dead is from the law is free to be married to another, then Christ's death on the cross and taking the OT out of the way frees us from that law to be married to Christ.
I do not see the word "penalty" in verse 6. We have been delivered from the law itself to be married to Christ. If the OT law still exists one cannot be married to Christ.
Paul already shows both Jew and Gentile have been freed from the OT law and its requirement for perfect law keeping by the death of Christ, so "that ye may be married to another"
Paul is declaring the law was not a bad thing for it defined sin for those it was given to.
Christ's NT law defines sin for Christians.
Paul is saying faith does not void law, any law.
The article "the" is not in some versions/texts so Paul is talking about "law". In the context he refers to "the law of faith" verse 27. He also has the law of Moses under consideration. Paul is NOT saying faith kept the law of Moses from being taken away but those Jews that lived under that law, their faith could not void that law, as a Christian's faith cannot void the law of Christ/law of faith. Whatever type of law you are under, faith does not void that law.
Coffman Comm lists several laws that faith cannot void:
FAITH CANNOT VOID LAW
Paul is continuing the analogy he is making with the woman..."if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man." Likewise for the Christian married to Christ "ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another"
So like the woman's whose husband is dead is from the law is free to be married to another, then Christ's death on the cross and taking the OT out of the way frees us from that law to be married to Christ.
I do not see the word "penalty" in verse 6. We have been delivered from the law itself to be married to Christ. If the OT law still exists one cannot be married to Christ.
Paul already shows both Jew and Gentile have been freed from the OT law and its requirement for perfect law keeping by the death of Christ, so "that ye may be married to another"
Paul is declaring the law was not a bad thing for it defined sin for those it was given to.
Christ's NT law defines sin for Christians.
Paul is saying faith does not void law, any law.
The article "the" is not in some versions/texts so Paul is talking about "law". In the context he refers to "the law of faith" verse 27. He also has the law of Moses under consideration. Paul is NOT saying faith kept the law of Moses from being taken away but those Jews that lived under that law, their faith could not void that law, as a Christian's faith cannot void the law of Christ/law of faith. Whatever type of law you are under, faith does not void that law.
Coffman Comm lists several laws that faith cannot void:
FAITH CANNOT VOID LAW
- It cannot void the law of Moses. The ultimate scheme of redemption as set forth in Christianity is the very system foretold in the law and the prophets (Romans 1:2), witnessed by the law and the prophets (Romans 3:21); and, therefore. it should not be thought for a moment that the gospel and the faith therein enjoined could have the effect of voiding that great Old Testament system. Rather, that system was fulfilled by Christ and the new institution. The types and prefigurations of the old system were all fulfilled and brought to perfect fruition in the new; and what Paul said of faith establishing law applies with dramatic force to the law of Moses. Furthermore, the very justification of every believer stems from Christ's perfect fulfillment of and obedience to that law. He broke not a jot or tittle of it. The righteousness of God in Christ, which is the only true ground of justification, is precisely the righteousness of Christ in fulfilling every iota of that law. That law was not voided by faith, but established by the "faith of the Son of God.
- Physical law is not voided by faith. In apostolic times, of course, there were miraculous events that suspended physical law, as in the case of Christ's walking on the water; but such things were for the purpose of confirming his word, and must be viewed as the exceptions that prove the rule that faith cannot set aside physical law. The presumed faith of the young man who went to sleep hearing Paul preach did not suspend the law of gravity. They took him up for dead (Acts 20:9).
- Faith cannot void the moral law of God. One of the first heresies was to the effect that it did release people from moral obligations. The Nicolaitans taught that faith voided the moral law; and Jezebel taught that it was all right for believers to commit fornication (Revelation 2:6,20). Such teaching was false, of course; for faith imposes even stricter standards of morality than those taught under the law of Moses. Thus, Christ said,Ye have heard it was said to them of old time (in the law of Moses), Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: but I say unto you, that every one who is angry with his brother shall be in danger of the judgment; and whosoever shall say to his brother Raca, shall be in danger of the council; and whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of the hell of fire (Matthew 5:21,22).
- Faith cannot void political law. Paul's teaching in Romans 13:1:7, and Peter's in 1 Peter 2:13-17 dogmatically affirm the duty of Christians to obey civil law.
- Faith cannot void the law of faith, mentioned by Paul in Rom. 3:27. See under that verse for full definition of the law of faith. It requires absolutely,, with no exceptions, that people shall be born again (John 3:5), that they shall believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, repent of their transgression, be baptized into Christ, receive the Holy Spirit of promise, and abide "in Christ" on pain of being "cast forth" unless they do. Does faith void the law of faith? Indeed no! God forbid, as Paul put it in this verse.
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okey dokey...lets look at Matt. 19 (which you said twice in your post) as an example.
the rich young ruler was being tested (most likely for the sake of the 12) by the Lord Jesus.
16 And behold, a man came up to him, saying, “Teacher, what good deed must I do to have eternal life?”
17 And he said to him, “Why do you ask me about what is good? There is only one who is good. If you would enter life, keep the commandments.”
18 He said to him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness,
19 Honor your father and mother, and, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”
20 The young man said to him, “All these I have kept. What do I still lack?”
21 Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
22 When the young man heard this he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.
Jesus was showing what one would have to do to inherit eternal life on one's own.
Keep every commandment perfectly. The young man showed his ignorance in first thinking he could do anything to obtain eternal life.
And some arrogance in saying he had kept the commandments since he was a child.
We do NOT find salvation in keeping the Law, as the young man thought.
We cannot do it every moment of every day perfectly.
If we could, then Jesus died for nothing.
Because He knew we could not, and that God's wrath was justly due us for our sin,
He came to do for us what we could never, ever do for ourselves.
Our obedience (sanctification) is the result of salvation,
and it is ALL by grace.
agreed?
the rich young ruler was being tested (most likely for the sake of the 12) by the Lord Jesus.
16 And behold, a man came up to him, saying, “Teacher, what good deed must I do to have eternal life?”
17 And he said to him, “Why do you ask me about what is good? There is only one who is good. If you would enter life, keep the commandments.”
18 He said to him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness,
19 Honor your father and mother, and, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”
20 The young man said to him, “All these I have kept. What do I still lack?”
21 Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
22 When the young man heard this he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.
Jesus was showing what one would have to do to inherit eternal life on one's own.
Keep every commandment perfectly. The young man showed his ignorance in first thinking he could do anything to obtain eternal life.
And some arrogance in saying he had kept the commandments since he was a child.
We do NOT find salvation in keeping the Law, as the young man thought.
We cannot do it every moment of every day perfectly.
If we could, then Jesus died for nothing.
Because He knew we could not, and that God's wrath was justly due us for our sin,
He came to do for us what we could never, ever do for ourselves.
Our obedience (sanctification) is the result of salvation,
and it is ALL by grace.
agreed?
That is the Law of moses and feast and let's bring out circumcision , you see the law is more than these ten commandments , but the law of Christ is this that we love one another as He had loved us , living a Holy life abounding in the fruits of the spirit the very fruit that will keep you from sinning which is also the transgression of grace as also law it is a fuller more honourable law within our hearts abound in love .
8 In this is my Father glorified; that you bring forth very much fruit, and become my disciples.
9 As the Father hath loved me, I also have loved you. Abide in my love.
10 If you keep my commandments, you shall abide in my love; as I also have kept my Father's commandments, and do abide in his love.
11 These things I have spoken to you, that my joy may be in you, and your joy may be filled.
12 This is my commandment, that you love one another, as I have loved you.
13 Greater love than this no man hath, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
9 As the Father hath loved me, I also have loved you. Abide in my love.
10 If you keep my commandments, you shall abide in my love; as I also have kept my Father's commandments, and do abide in his love.
11 These things I have spoken to you, that my joy may be in you, and your joy may be filled.
12 This is my commandment, that you love one another, as I have loved you.
13 Greater love than this no man hath, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not in wisdom of speech, lest the cross of Christ should be made void.
18 For the word of the cross, to them indeed that perish, is foolishness; but to them that are saved, that is, to us, it is the power of God.
19 For it is written: I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the prudence of the prudent I will reject.
20 Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this world? Hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For seeing that in the wisdom of God the world, by wisdom, knew not God, it pleased God, by the foolishness of our preaching, to save them that believe.
22 For both the Jews require signs, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews indeed a stumblingblock, and unto the Gentiles foolishness:
24 But unto them that are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God
18 For the word of the cross, to them indeed that perish, is foolishness; but to them that are saved, that is, to us, it is the power of God.
19 For it is written: I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the prudence of the prudent I will reject.
20 Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this world? Hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For seeing that in the wisdom of God the world, by wisdom, knew not God, it pleased God, by the foolishness of our preaching, to save them that believe.
22 For both the Jews require signs, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews indeed a stumblingblock, and unto the Gentiles foolishness:
24 But unto them that are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God
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When answering the greatest commandment in the law, He answered: Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[SUP] [/SUP]This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself.[SUP] [/SUP]All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.
"Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind" is in Deuteronomy 6 preceding "These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts..."
"Love your neighbor as yourself" is in Leviticus 19 amongst other laws.
All the law and the prophets hang on these two commandments. It's not hard to understand what He said.
It's what you said that I don't understand and the reason I asked for scripture back up.
"Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind" is in Deuteronomy 6 preceding "These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts..."
"Love your neighbor as yourself" is in Leviticus 19 amongst other laws.
All the law and the prophets hang on these two commandments. It's not hard to understand what He said.
It's what you said that I don't understand and the reason I asked for scripture back up.
In the commandment of love one another as I have loved you speaks a greater commandment than all a life of fruit fullness which gives no leaway to sin as sin is hated but the sinner is very much loved , and how can we trully lead ones to the real Christ by walking in darkness calling good evild evil good ,yes brother I love you and everyone enough to stand up in this gospel of love to stand not by my power or my might but by God's spirit in Christ if we walk in darkness are we leading them to the cross or are we taking them to hell ? Are we real ministers of God or Satan that detestable serpent ? I think we know the answer .it is Christ Our Lord Jesus we serve and no other hating sin and loving righteousness of the spirit (life,Jesus)