The mark of Yah is clearly stated in Scripture:

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tanakh

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We should all be flattered that so many people are coming on site concerned about our relationship with the Lord. However I feel that they could spend their time more profitably by preaching to the unconverted. With their apparent knowledge of all things Jewish I am surprised that they spend so much time on here and not on a Jewish Chat site. better still follow Paul's wish for them then Join a synagogue.
 

Yonah

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We should all be flattered that so many people are coming on site concerned about our relationship with the Lord. However I feel that they could spend their time more profitably by preaching to the unconverted. With their apparent knowledge of all things Jewish I am surprised that they spend so much time on here and not on a Jewish Chat site. better still follow Paul's wish for them then Join a synagogue.
I thought all believers were welcome here... guess not huh, so much for the love of the Messiah...pretty sad :(
 

tanakh

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I thought all believers were welcome here... guess not huh, so much for the love of the Messiah...pretty sad :(
My attitude is the same as Pauls. I have no desire to be in bondage to the law
 

hornetguy

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I thought all believers were welcome here... guess not huh, so much for the love of the Messiah...pretty sad :(
I think he means that Judaisers are not needed here....

We are not under the old law.

Stop trying to drag us back into that life of death.
 

tanakh

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I think he means that Judaisers are not needed here....

We are not under the old law.

Stop trying to drag us back into that life of death.
Spot on Hornetguy. Learning about Jewish Roots is one thing Growing them is definitely not kosher!
 

Hizikyah

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Scripture clearly states Yah does not change and the Sabbath is for followers of Yah Hebrew or Gentile, also any follower of the Messiah is a spiritual Israylite.

Galations 3:28,29, "Is there not the Yahdai as well as the Greek; Gentile? Is there not the slave as well as the freeman? Is there not the male and the female? For all of you must be in unity in Yahshua Messiah. And if you are in Messiah, then you are a seed of Abraham, heirs according to the promise."

Romans 9:6-8, "However, it is not as though Yahweh's plan had failed. For it is not everyone who is a descendant of Israyl who belongs to Israyl. Nor, just because they are his descendants, are they all Abraham's children; but: In Isaac will your seed be called. That is, it is not those who are the children of the flesh who are Yahweh's children; but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's seed."

Psalm 105:6-9, "O seed of Abraham His servant, You children of Yaaqob, His chosen ones! He is Yahweh our Father! His judgments are in all the earth. He has remembered His covenant forever, the Law He commanded for a thousand generations; Which He made; ratified, established, with Abraham, and vowed by His oath to Isaac. He confirmed it; let it stand, to Yaaqob for a Law, and to Israyl for an everlasting covenant."

Isayah 56:1-7, "This is what Yahweh says: Keep the judgments, and do justly; for My salvation is near, soon, to come, and My righteousness to be revealed. Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who lays hold on it; who keeps the Sabbaths without polluting; defiling, them; and keeps his hand from doing any evil. Do not let the son of the Gentile, who has joined himself to Yahweh, speak, saying; Yahweh has utterly separated me from His people. Nor let the eunuch say; Behold, I am a dry tree. For this is what Yahweh says: To the eunuchs who keep My Sabbaths, and choose those things which please Me, and hold fast to My covenant: I will give to them, in My House, even within My walls, a place and a Name equal to that of sons and of daughters; I will give them the Name of The Everlasting: YAHWEH; which will not be cut off. Also the sons of the Gentile who join themselves to Yahweh, to serve Him, and to love the Name of Yahweh, to be His servants--everyone who keeps the Sabbaths without polluting; defiling, them and who holds fast to My covenant--I will bring them to My holy mountain, and make them joyful in My House of prayer..."
To deny this is to deny Scriptual truth.
 
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RobbyEarl

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Jesus is the Sabbath, there is no rest (freedom of the slavery of sin) without Him.
 

Hizikyah

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Mat 12:12 “How much more worth is a man than a sheep! So it is right to do good on the Sabbath.”

The 1000 year reign IS THE REST.

Amazing prophecy alert!

Hosheyah (Hosea) 6:1-3, "Come, and let us return to Yahweh! Although He has torn, yet He will heal us; He has wounded, but He will bind us up. After two days He will revive us; in the third day He will raise us up, and we will live in His sight. Then let us acknowledge, let us pursue the knowledge of Yahweh. His appearing is as certain as the morning. He will come to us like the rain, like the former and latter rain, to the earth"

Messiah came in the 4th day (around year 4000),

after 2 days He will return (around year 6000, "end of the 6th day", Yahweh does "hold things back aka extend to fulfill the numbers of His kingdom)

the 7th day year 6001-7000 is the "mellinieal reign" aka the true Sabbath rest!

SO I am in training and honor and respect and great anticipation and joy!
 

Hizikyah

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Oh and if you still doubt, it is written:

Hebrew 4:1 Therefore, since a promise remains of entering into His rest, let us fear lest any of you seem to have come short of it.
Hebrew 4:2 For indeed the Good News was brought to us as well as to them, but the word which they heard did not profit them, not having been mixed with belief in those who heard it.
Hebrew 4:3 For we who have believed do enter into that rest, as He has said, “As I swore in My wrath, if they shall enter into My rest...” And yet His works have come into being from the foundation of the world.
Hebrew 4:4 For somewhere He has said thus about the seventh day, “And Elohim rested on the seventh day from all His works,”
Hebrew 4:5 and in this again, “If they shall enter into My rest...”
Hebrew 4:6 Since then it remains for some to enter into it, and those who formerly received the Good News did not enter in because of disobedience,
Hebrew 4:7 He again defines a certain day, “Today,” saying through Dawiḏ so much later, as it has been said, “Today, if you hear His voice, do not harden your hearts.”
Hebrew 4:8 For if Yehoshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that.
Hebrew 4:9 So there remains a Sabbath-keeping for the people of Elohim.
Hebrew 4:10 For the one, having entered into His rest, has himself also rested from his works, as Elohim rested from His own.
Hebrew 4:11 Let us therefore do our utmost to enter into that rest, lest anyone fall after the same example of disobedience.


Hebrews 4:1-11, "Therefore, since a promise of entering His rest remains, let us fear so that none of you should come short of it. For this message was preached to us, as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not benefit them, because they did not share in the faith of those who obeyed-- However, we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said: So I vowed in My wrath, They will not enter into My rest, although the works were finished from the foundation of the world, For He spoke in a certain place of the Seventh Day, in this way: And Yahweh rested the Seventh Day from all His works. And in this place again: If they will enter into My rest. Since therefore it remains that some must enter it, and those to whom it was first preached did not enter because of disobedience, Again, He designates a certain day, saying in David: ''Today,'' after so long a time, as it has been said: Today, if you will hear His voice, do not harden your hearts. If Yahshua (ben Nun) had given them rest he would not have spoken afterward of another day. Therefore, there remains the keeping of the Sabbath (word G#4520) to the people of Yahweh, For he who has entered into His rest (word G#2663) has also ceased from his own works, as Yahweh did from His. Therefore, let us be zealous to enter into that rest (word G#2663), so that no one may fall after the same example of unbelief."

4520 - sabbatismos
sabbatismos: a sabbath rest
Original Word: σαββατισμός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: sabbatismos
Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos')
Short Definition: a Sabbath rest
Definition: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.
Word Origin - from a derivation of sabbaton
Definition - a sabbath rest

2663 - katapausis
katapausis: rest
Original Word: κατάπαυσις, εως, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: katapausis
Phonetic Spelling: (kat-ap'-ow-sis)
Short Definition: resting, rest
Definition: (in the Old Testament of the rest attained by the settlement in Canaan), resting, rest, dwelling, habitation.
Word Origin - from katapauó
Definition - rest
 

Hizikyah

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The Body of Messiah... is not any earthly instution or denomanation...

Phillipians 3:20, "But our citizenship is in heaven, out from which we also eagerly wait for our Ruler, Yahshua Messiah the King."

Ezekiyl 48:35, "The distance around the city will be eighteen thousand measures; and the name of the city from that day will be: YHWH SHAMMAH! (YHWH Is There)"

Revelation 21:3-4, "And I heard a great voice out of heaven, saying: Behold, the tabernacle of YHWH is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they will be His people, and YHWH Himself will be with them, and be their Father. And YHWH will wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there will be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, nor will there be any more pain, for the former things have passed away."

Hebrews 13:14
"For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come."


Romans 12:3-5, "For by the unmerited mercy given to me, I say to everyone who is among you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought; but rather, think soberly, in accordance as YHWH has dealt to each one the measure of faith. For as we have many members in one body, and all members do not have the same function, So we, being many, are one body in Messiah: and each one members, one belonging to another."

Acts 20:28, "Therefore, be on guard for yourselves and the whole flock over which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to feed the called out ones of YHWH, which Yahshua has purchased with His own blood."

1 Corinthians 12:12-18, "For just as the body is a unity, but yet has many members; and though all its members are many, they are one body: so it is with Messiah. For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--whether Yahdaim or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and have all been made to drink into one Spirit; For the body is not one member, but many. If the foot should say: Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? And if the ear should say: Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? If the whole body were an eye, where would be the sense of hearing? If the whole were hearing, where would be the sense of smelling? But now YHWH has set the members, each one of them in the body, as it has pleased Him."

Ephesians 1:18-21, "Asking, that since the eyes of your understanding have been enlightened, that you may know what is the hope of His calling, and what are the riches of His glory among the saints; And what is the exceeding greatness of His power within us who believe, according to the energy of His mighty power. Which He exerted in the Messiah when He raised Him from the dead, and set Him at His own right hand in the heavens, Far above all principality, power, and might; and those who rule, and above every name that is named, not only in this age, but also in that which is to come."

Colossians 1:17-20, "And He is over all things, and all things have been placed together under Him. For He is the Head of the body, the called out ones, Who is the beginning of the firstborn from the dead, so that in all things He may have the pre-eminence. For it pleased the Father that in Him all fullness; fulfilling, completion, should dwell, And through Yahshua to reconcile all things to YHWH, having made peace through the blood of His sacrifice, whether the things on the earth or the things in the heavens."

Colossians 3:14-16, "And above all these things put on love, which is the bond of perfection. And let the peace of YHWH rule in your hearts, to which you also were called into one body, and be thankful. Let the word of the Messiah; His teachings richly dwell in you, in all wisdom: teaching and admonishing one another in psalms, and hymns, and spiritual songs, singing with love in your hearts to YHWH."

"And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene." Matthew 2:23

"For we have found this man (Paul) a pestilent fellow, and a mover of sedition among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes" Acts 24:5

Isayah 11:1-2, "There will come forth a Rod out of the stem of Yishai, and a Branch will grow out of his roots. The Spirit of YHWH will rest upon Him, the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and of the reverence of YHWH."

Branch is word H#5342 - netser: a sprout, shoot
Original Word: נֵ֫צֶר
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: netser
Phonetic Spelling: (nay'-tser)
Short Definition: branch

A "Netzer" is a type of Branch - a shoot from an olive tree that grows out of its original root system but springs up at a later time from the stump, or somewhat distant from the trunk.

"For we have found this man (Paul) a pestilent fellow, and a mover of sedition among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes" Acts 24:5

("Netzer or Nazarenes" = "Branch/shoot" )

John (Yahchanan 15:4-6, "Abide in Me, and I in you. Just as the branch cannot produce fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me. I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, produces much fruit; but without Me, you can do nothing. If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away like a branch, and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned."

Epiphanius (Fourth century "church father") writes of the ancient Nazarenes: But these sectarians... did not call themselves Christians--but "Nazarenes,”

Jerome (4th Century "church father") described these Nazarenes as those "...who accept Messiah in such a way that they do not cease to observe the old Law." (Jerome; On. Is. 8:14).

"Minæans" apparently Latinized from Hebrew MINIM (singular is MIN) a word which in modern Hebrew means "apostates" but was originally an acronym for a Hebrew phrase meaning "Believers in Yeshua the Nazarene."

Jerome responds saying of the Nazarenes "though believing in Christ, [they] were anathematized by the [church] fathers for this one error, that they mixed up the ceremonies of the law with the gospel of Christ, and professed their faith in that which was new, without letting go what was old."

Epiphanius (Fourth century "church father") writes of the ancient Nazarenes:
But these sectarians... did not call themselves Christians--but "Nazarenes,”... However they are simply complete Jews. They use not only the New Testament but the Old Testament as well, as the Jews do... They have no different ideas, but confess everything exactly as the Law proclaims it and in the Jewish fashion-- except for their belief in Messiah, if you please! For they acknowledge both the resurrection of the dead and the divine creation of all things, and declare that God is one, and that his son is Yeshua the Messiah. They are trained to a nicety in Hebrew. For among them the entire Law, the Prophets, and the... Writings... are read in Hebrew, as they surely are by the Jews. They are different from the Jews, and different from Christians, only in the following. They disagree with Jews because they have come to faith in Messiah; but since they are still fettered by the Law--circumcision, the Sabbath, and the rest-- they are not in accord with Christians.... they are nothing but Jews.... They have the Goodnews according to Matthew in its entirety in Hebrew. For it is clear that they still preserve this, in the Hebrew alphabet, as it was originally written. (Epiphanius; Panarion 29)

Mattithyah 2:23, "And he went and lived in a city called Nazareth. So was fulfilled what was spoken through the prophets; He will be called a Nazarene."

Zecharyah 3:8, "Hear now, O Yahshua the High Priest, you and your companions who sit before you; for they are men wondered at. For behold, I will bring forth My servant the BRANCH."

Zecharyah 6:12-13, "Speak to him, and say; This is what YHWH of hosts says: Behold, the Man Whose Name is the BRANCH! For He will branch out from His place, and He will build temple of YHWH! Yes, He will build the temple of YHWH. He will bear glory, and will sit and rule on His throne. He will be a priest upon His throne; and the counsel of peace will be between them both."

Yeremyah 23:5-6, "Behold, the days come, says YHWH: that I will raise to David a righteous Branch, and a King will reign and succeed, and will execute judgment and justice in the earth. In His days Yahdah will be saved, and Israyl will dwell safely; and this is the Name that He will proclaim to them-YHWH Tsidqenu: YHWH OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS."

Isayah 4:2, "In that day will the branch of YHWH be beautiful and glorious and the fruit of the earth will be excellent and comely for those who are escaped to Israyl."

Acts 9:1-2, "Then Shaul, still breathing threats and murder against the disciples of Yahshua, went to the High Priest; And he asked him for letters to the synagogues in Damascus, so that if he found any who belonged to this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound to Yerusalem."

Acts 9:2, (AMP) "And requested of him letters to the synagogues at Damascus [authorizing him], so that if he found any men or women belonging to the Way [of life as determined by faith in Jesus Christ], he might bring them bound [with chains] to Jerusalem."

Acts 24:14, "5 For we have found this man to be a pest: one who stirs up trouble among all the Yahdaim (Jews) throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes." "24 But I confess this to you, that after the way which they call heresy--so I worship the Father of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the Law and in the Prophets."

Romans 7:25, "Thanks be to YHWH, I have deliverance through Yahshua Messiah our King! So then, with this same mind, I myself serve the Law of YHWH, while in the flesh that is yet subject to the law of sin."
 
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RobbyEarl

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Mat 12:12 “How much more worth is a man than a sheep! So it is right to do good on the Sabbath.”

The 1000 year reign IS THE REST.

Amazing prophecy alert!

Hosheyah (Hosea) 6:1-3, "Come, and let us return to Yahweh! Although He has torn, yet He will heal us; He has wounded, but He will bind us up. After two days He will revive us; in the third day He will raise us up, and we will live in His sight. Then let us acknowledge, let us pursue the knowledge of Yahweh. His appearing is as certain as the morning. He will come to us like the rain, like the former and latter rain, to the earth"

Messiah came in the 4th day (around year 4000),

after 2 days He will return (around year 6000, "end of the 6th day", Yahweh does "hold things back aka extend to fulfill the numbers of His kingdom)

the 7th day year 6001-7000 is the "mellinieal reign" aka the true Sabbath rest!

SO I am in training and honor and respect and great anticipation and joy!
How did we get the thousand year reign?
 

Hizikyah

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How did we get the thousand year reign?
By the plan and will of YHWH, as carried out by Him and His first born son, Yahshua the Messiah, detailed in the 7 Feast Days, one of those is about the self sacrifice of the Messiah.

Isaiah 59:16, "And He saw that there was no man, and was astonished that there was no intercessor. So His own arm saved for Him, and His righteousness upheld him."

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones – and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them – and the lives of those who had been beheaded because of the witness they bore to יהושע and because of the Word of Elohim, and who did not worship the beast, nor his image, and did not receive his mark upon their foreheads or upon their hands. And they lived and reigned with Messiah for a thousand years
Rev 20:5 (and the rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended) – this is the first resurrection.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and set-apart is the one having part in the first resurrection. The second death possesses no authority over these, but they shall be priests of Elohim and of Messiah, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.


1,000 yr reign

Zecharyah 14:16-21, "Then it will come to pass that everyone who survives of all the nations which came against Yerusalem, will also go up from year to year to worship the King, YHWH of hosts, by keeping the Feasts at The Bayith YHWH. And it will be that if any families of the earth will not come up to Yerusalem to worship the King, YHWH of hosts, then upon them will be no rain. family of Egypt will not come up and present themselves, they also will have no water; they will receive the same plague with which YHWH of hosts strikes the heathen who will not come up to keep the Feasts at The Bayith YHWH. This will be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all nations that do not go up to keep the Feasts at The Bayith YHWH. In that day there will even be engraved on the bells of the horses: Qodesh La-YHWH; Holy to YHWH; and the pots in YHWH's House will be like the bowls before the altar. Yes, every pot in Yerusalem and Yahdah will be holy to YHWH of hosts, so that all who sacrifice may come and take of them, and boil the meat of the sacrifices in them. And in that day there will no longer be a Canaanite in The Bayith YHWH of hosts."

Isayah 66:20-24, "And they will bring all your brothers for an offering to YHWH--out of all nations, on horses, in chariots, and in litters, on mules, and on camels, to My holy mountain Yerusalem, says YHWH: just as the children ofIsrayl bring an offering in a clean vessel into The Bayith YHWH And I will also take of them for priests and for Levites, says YHWH. For as the new heavens and the new earth which I will make will remain before Me, says YHWH: so will your seed and your name remain. And it will come to pass that from one New Moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, all flesh will come to worship before Me, says YHWH. And they will go forth and look upon the carcasses of the men who have transgressed against Me; for their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched; and they will be an abhorrence to all flesh."

Isayah 65
"I am sought by those who did not ask for Me; I am found by those who did not seek Me. I said: Here I am, here I am, to a nation that was not called with My Name. I have spread out My hands all the day to a rebellious people, who walk in a way which is not right, after their own thoughts; devices; A people who provoke Me to anger continually to My face; who sacrifice in gardens, and burn incense on altars of brick; Who assemble and spend the night keeping memorials for the dead, who eat swine's flesh, and the broth of abominable things; unclean foods, is in their vessels, Who say; Stand by yourself! Do not come near me, for I am holier than you! These are a smoke in My nostrils, a fire that burns all the day. Behold, it is written before Me; I will not keep silence, but will recompense, even recompense into their bosom--Your iniquities and the iniquities of your fathers together, says YHWH: who have burned incense upon the mountains, and blasphemed Me upon the hills. Therefore I will measure their former work into their bosom. This is what YHWH says: As the new wine is found in the cluster, and one says; Do not destroy it, for a blessing is in it; so will I do for My servants' sake, that I may not destroy them all. And I will bring forth a seed out of Yaaqob, and out of Yahdah an inheritor of My mountains; and My elect will inherit it, and My servants will live there. Sharon will be a fold of flocks, and the Valley of Achor a place for herds to lie down, for My people who have sought Me. But you are those who forsake YHWH, who forget My holy mountain, who prepare a table for that troop and who furnish a drink offering for that number. Therefore, I will number you for the sword, and you will all bow down to the slaughter, because when I called, you did not answer; when I spoke, you did not listen; but did evil in front ofMy eyes, and you chose that in which I did not delight. Therefore, this is what YHWH our Father says: Behold, My servants will eat, but you will be hungry. Behold, My servants will drink, but you will be thirsty. Behold, My servants will rejoice, but you will be ashamed. Behold, My servants will sing for joy of heart, but you will cry for sorrow of heart, and wail for vexation; grief, of spirit; And the names of your gods will remain as a trap; test, to My chosen; for YHWH our Father will slay you, but he will give His servants a Name, that will remain forever; That he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the power of truth; and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the power of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes.They have been adversaries from the beginning; therefore, they are hidden from My eyes. For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; and the former will not be remembered, nor come into mind. But be glad and rejoice forever in what I create; for behold, I create Yerusalem as a rejoicing, and her people a joy. I will rejoice in Yerusalem, and rejoice in My people; the voice of weeping will no longer be heard in her, nor the voice of crying. No longer will there be in it an infant of only a few days, nor an old man who does not fill out his life; for the child will die a hundred years old, but the sinner being one hundred years old will be accursed; burned. They will build houses, and inhabit them; they will plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them. They will not build, and another inhabit; they will not plant, and another eat; for as the days of a tree, so will be the days of My people, and My elect will long enjoy the work of their hands. They will not labor in vain, nor bring forth children for trouble; destruction, for they are the seed of the blessed of YHWH, and their offspring with them. It will come to pass that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear. The wolf and the lamb will feed together, the lion will eat straw like the ox, and dust will be the serpent's food. They will not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain: says YHWH."

Peacful practice time (1,000 yr reign) is over, satan is loosed, an swiftly destroyed

Malakyah 4:1-4,"For, behold, the day comes that will burn like an oven; and all the proud, yes, and all who do wickedly, will be stubble--the day that comes will burn them up, says YHWH of hosts; and it will leave them neither root nor branch. But for you who reverence My Name, the light of righteousness will arise with healing in its wings; and you will go out, leaping like calves released from the stall. And you will tread down the wicked; for they will be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I will do this, says YHWH of hosts. Remember the Law of Mosheh My servant, which I commanded through him in Horeb for all Israyl, with the statutes and judgments."

and the eternal kingdom of YHWH is all that is left!

1 Corinthians 2:9, "But as it is written: Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the mind of man the things which YHWH has prepared for those who love Him."
Exodus 20:6, "But showing love to thousands who love Me by keeping My Laws."

1 Yahchanan 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of YHWH: When we love YHWH by keeping His Laws. For this is the love of YHWH: That we keep His Law, and His Law is not grievous."

Mattithyah 22:37, "Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might."

Revelation 21:3-4, "And I heard a great voice out of heaven, saying: Behold, the tabernacle of YHWH is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they will be His people, and YHWH Himselfwill be with them, and be their Father. And YHWH will wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there will be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, nor will there be any more pain, for the former things have passed away."

Isayah 54:8-17, "With a little wrath, I hid My face from you for a moment; but with everlasting kindness I will have mercy on you: says YHWH your Redeemer. For this is like the waters of Noah to Me; for as I have vowed that the waters of Noah would no longer cover the earth, so have I vowed that I would not be angry with you, nor rebuke you. For the mountains will depart and the hills be removed; but My kindness will not depart from you, nor will My covenant of peace be removed, says YHWH, Who has mercy on you. O you afflicted, tossed with tempest and not comforted. Behold, I will lay your stones with turquoise, and lay your foundations with sapphires. I will make your windows of rubies, and your gates of crystal, and all your walls of precious stones. All your children will be taught by YHWH; and great will be the peace of your children. In righteousness you will be established. You will be far from oppression, for you will not fear from terror; for it will not come near you. Behold, they will surely assemble, but it is not from Me. Whoever assembles against you will fall for your sake. Behold, I have created the blacksmith who fans the coals into flame, and forges an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster; devastator, to destroy. No weapon that is formed against you will succeed; and every tongue that will rise against you in judgment, you will condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of YHWH, and their righteousness is from Me, says YHWH."
 
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So where do we place our faith, I meant. what is the object of our faith?
 
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Oh well, guess He bugged out, may god bless and keep you Hiz. Amen
 

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YHWH is the author of our Salvation therefore the "object" of our faith and obedience

John (Yahchanan) 14:6, "Yahshua proclaimed to him: I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man comes to the Father, except through Me."

John (Yahchanan) 7:16-17 "Yahshua answered, them, and said: My doctrine is not Mine, but His Who sent Me. If any man will do His will, he will know about this teaching--whether it comes from YHWH, or whether I am speaking of My own authority."

John (Yahchanan) 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."

John (Yahchanan) 5:24, "Most certainly I tell you, he who hears my word, and believes him who sent me, has eternal life, and doesn't come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life."

Luke 6:46, "And why call Me; Ruler! Ruler! and do not the things which I say?"

2 John (Yahchanan) 1:9, "Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Messiah, hath not Yah."

John (Yahchanan) 10:16, "And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to My voice. So there will be one flock, one Shepherd (4166. poimén)."

Yahchanan (John) 5:46-47, "For had you believed Mosheh, you would have believed Me, for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?"

Mosheh wrote:

Deuteronomy 18:18-19, "I (YHWH) will raise up for them a Prophet (Yahshua/Jesus) like you from among their brothers, and I will put My words in His mouth, and He will tell them everything I command Him. Whoever will not listen to My words, which He speaks in My Name, I will judge him for it"

"listen" is word #8085 שָׁמַע shama` {shaw-mah'}

Brown-Driver-Briggs (Old Testament Hebrew-English Lexicon)
A primitive root; to hear intelligently (often with implication of attention, obedience, etc.; causatively to tell, etc.)

Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) - 1) to hear, listen to, obey

John (Yahchanan) 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."

John (Yahchanan) 5:24, "Most certainly I tell you, he who hears my word, and believes him who sent me, has eternal life, and doesn't come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life."

Matt 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
Revelation 21:1-2, "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no more sea. And I, Yahchanan, saw the holy city, YHWH Shammah, coming down from YHWH out of heaven, prepared as brides adorned for their husbands. And I heard a great voice out of heaven, saying: Behold, the tabernacle of YHWH is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they will be His people, and YHWH Himself will be with them, and be their Father.

Isayah 42:21, "YHWH is well-pleased, for His righteousness' sake, to magnify the Law, and make it honorable"

Mattithyah 5:18-19, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected. Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, he will be called the least in the Kingdom of YHWH; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of YHWH."

Yahchanan (John) 14:15, "If you love Me, keep My commandments."

Mattithyah 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
 

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Oh well, guess He bugged out, may god bless and keep you Hiz. Amen
"Bugged out" lol So eager to dismiss... 4minutes... wow really? you expose yourself.

Did you even read my posts? or just ignore it?
 

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My attitude is the same as Pauls. I have no desire to be in bondage to the law
2Tim 2:15 Do your utmost to present yourself approved to Ylohim, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly handling the Word of Truth.

I believe It is those that think Paul taught not to follow the Law of the Creator is what is causing the error...

Paul wrote all these verses;

1 Corinthians 7:19, "For neither circumcision counts for anything nor uncircumcision, but keeping the commandments of God?"

Romans 3:28, "For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the Law."

Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"

Romans 6:1-2, "What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means!How can we who died to sin still live in it?"

Romans 7:7, Shall we therefore say that the Law is sin? No! By no means! But to the contrary, I did not know sin; transgression of the Law, except through the Law, for I did not know lust, unless the Law had said: Do not covet."

Acts 24:14, "But I confess this to you, that after the way which they call heresy--so I worship the Father of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the Law and in the Prophets."

Romans 7:12, "Therefore the Law is holy, and the commandments are holy, and just, and righteous."

Ephesians 6:2-3, "Honor your father and mother; which is the first commandment with a promise: That it may be well with you, and you may live long on the earth."

For you see we cant love without YHWH's standard of love, anything else is our own standard...
 
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Where? Your faith is in God. He is I AM. He can move mountains if only you follow HIS law. Practice HIS Law. HE says you forget. Look up HIS words. Just as the 12 Nations spread out from Egypt after slavery. So shall we be freed from our oppressors. It is HIS law.
 
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The object of your faith is not the cross, that is a violation of His law. No images or idols from above or below. Jesus, His son was sent as an example for how to live and die through our sacrifice to God.