The Millennium is a Pharisee Doctrine
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In the middle of the book we see a time period that recurs, phrased in different ways: “forty-two months” (11:2; 13:5); “twelve hundred and sixty days” (11:3; 12:6); “time, times, and half a time” (12:14). These time periods are figurative, not literal.895 They all stem from or are variants of times stated in Dan 7:25; 9:27; 12:7, 11–12. The time references in Daniel originally applied to the three and a half years of Antiochus Epiphanes’s depredations against Israel until the success of the Maccabean revolt. In typical prophetic fashion, however, the inter-testamental Jewish writings took this time period to signify “a general time of trial for believers, as a time associated with Israel’s Babylonian captivity, or as the period that must pass before Israel’s final redemption.”896 John is taking that three-and-a-half year time period in its archetypal sense of a time of severe testing until God gives his people final relief and is applying it to the church. Rev 12:5–6 shows that this period of testing began at Christ’s resurrection and ascension. It will end with his return in glory at the parousia.897 There is more to the “three and a half years” than simply an undetermined length of time that extends from Christ’s ascension until the parousia. That is seen in how John has structured the time periods. The time of the Gentiles trampling the “holy city” (11:2) = the time of prophesying of the “two witnesses” (11:3) = the time the “woman” is in the wilderness (12:14). The “forty-two months” (11:2; 13:5), “twelve hundred and sixty days” (11:3; 12:6), and “time, times, and half a time” (12:14) are all different ways of referring to the same period, but the different ways of phrasing this time period indicate different perspectives or theological emphases. In their order of appearance and significance, they are arranged chiastically: the “forty-two months” focus on the church’s enemies and their aggression against the church; whereas the “twelve hundred and sixty days” and “time, times, and half a time” focus on the church’s witness and protection by God, as follows: 898 A. 42 months: The “holy city” is trampled by the nations (Rev 11:1–2). B. 1260 days: The “two witnesses” prophesy and cannot be harmed (Rev 11:3–6). B’. 1260 days [as expanded by “time, times, and half a time”]: The “woman” is nourished and protected in the wilderness (Rev 12:6, 13–16). A’. 42 months: The “beast” blasphemes and makes war against the “saints” (Rev 13:5). Suffering and safety, trial and testimony, alienation and nourishment are all bound up in these descriptions of the time of testing of the church.899 Through it all, these descriptions also demonstrate God’s sovereigny over the church, Satan, suffering, and evil.
Menn, Jonathan. Biblical Eschatology . Resource Publications - An Imprint of Wipf and Stock Publishers. Kindle Edition.
Menn, Jonathan. Biblical Eschatology . Resource Publications - An Imprint of Wipf and Stock Publishers. Kindle Edition.
This is part of the specification what happen in the great tribulation
First beast in power. The power that rule all nation, not only some nation
Rev 13
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
Let me repeat the last part of verse 7
And the power was given unto him over all........NATIONS
Back to verse 7
He make a war with the saint and win.
Is this figurative? He kill the spirit of the saint? How?
I believe he kill the saint physically
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
Second beast exerciceth all power like what first beast have.
So It is not happening now It Will happen in the future.
The Lord give a Clear specification.
Murder saint is always happen, but never happen the whole world under one president, and make a law that only people that accept the mark of the beast able to buy and sale
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
All specification must be happen to call that we are in great tribulation
First beast in power. The power that rule all nation, not only some nation
Rev 13
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
Let me repeat the last part of verse 7
And the power was given unto him over all........NATIONS
Back to verse 7
He make a war with the saint and win.
Is this figurative? He kill the spirit of the saint? How?
I believe he kill the saint physically
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
Second beast exerciceth all power like what first beast have.
So It is not happening now It Will happen in the future.
The Lord give a Clear specification.
Murder saint is always happen, but never happen the whole world under one president, and make a law that only people that accept the mark of the beast able to buy and sale
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
All specification must be happen to call that we are in great tribulation
How do you explain the history of martyrdom in the church?
“These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.” John 16:33 (KJV 1900)
“Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.” Revelation 2:10 (KJV 1900)
“These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.” John 16:33 (KJV 1900)
“Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.” Revelation 2:10 (KJV 1900)
That is not a sign of great tribulation. In the great tribulation, No body able to buy or sale without the mark
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
I think we can not to change the bible or make our own verse.
Verse 17 say, and that No man.
You change in to
And that some businessman
This is huge different brother.
No man mean No mankind now about 7.8 billion
Some businessman I believe about 100 million, some, not all
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
I think we can not to change the bible or make our own verse.
Verse 17 say, and that No man.
You change in to
And that some businessman
This is huge different brother.
No man mean No mankind now about 7.8 billion
Some businessman I believe about 100 million, some, not all
You say many time in the history so you believe great tribulation Come and go?
Persecution always happen in some country, like middle east or north Korea or China, but great tribulation where all Christian in the whole world Will suffer under one world government never happen and Will happen in the future
Persecution always happen in some country, like middle east or north Korea or China, but great tribulation where all Christian in the whole world Will suffer under one world government never happen and Will happen in the future