The new generation

[Niki7]

Hi Niki I'm not spiritually grown enough to make a decision ,

But I have found this thread interesting. And I'm trying to understand all points of view.

I could say I'm going to build a raised flower bed,

And you say hey I know you are.

Or Tomorrow you will lol.

Or you could have seen a vision of me somewhere else, whilst you where some where else, and when we met up you said I saw you in the shop making a mistake and then this happend,. And I said how the hec did you know that.

And you said I don't know.

But if visions keep happening like this it could be the gift of prophecy,. I would be interested to hear about some of the visions blain has had in more detail.

You say you are not yet at the place where you would have spiritual knowledge or understanding of whether or not to judge or discern what the op is about?

thanks. I have better understanding of what you post now

 

[Fundaamental]

if this were the case you would be correct but this isn't the reality we live in. Let me tell you a story I went through in my life the first time I was brought to such despair to attempy duicide I was put into a facility where they monitor you for two weeks this place is set up in a prison like manner the rooms you sleep in are set up in the exact way cells are in prison the beds hurt and you are allowed only to be out in the open and you have be careful of every move you make. it was here I met several people who were what you would call the lost two in particular a transgender and a women who after explaining her story to me has had the absolute worst kind of life she truly has only known abuse neglect and didn't know what love was in fact she literally broke down into tears simply because I showed love and care in the way I treated her.

These two resented Christians because they were only met with judgement and being told what is wrong with them how they are sinners and that became their identity.

They were both shocked to find out I was a Christian and flat out told me I was the first actual Chridtian they have ever met.

This infuriated me these poor souls are in the background unseen and unknown by society and the church they were only met with judgement by so called Christians so called believers in Christ.

I have been to the other side where many are left forgotten unseen and unheard rejected by society and the church

many seem to see the body in rose lenses people seem to think the church is more than it really is or rather what it has become

The kingdom is most certaintly not here if it were these people wouldn't be in the state they are and trust me such people are everywhere all over the place and they along with the world see Christians as lying judgemental hypocrites and for good reason.

The world and how they view us is a mirror of the state of the body of Christ. I joined a forum recently for people who struggle with depression because I ntoiced how we stay in our own circles we stay in church together but don't reach the lost and hurting we stay on cc but don't even consider going to other sites where our light can illuminate the darkness others are struggling with and I was sick of nothing being done of no one stepping up and actually doing what we claim to do

these people are supporting each other as best they can it is so sad seeing some of the things they have to say and your telling me the kingdom is here?

I have Gone and spoken a word of God to advice people for real, as my mum always told me to always please God first befor people,

Many time in my long distance haulage, truck driving , other drivers would tell me there concerns, the uncanny part was I would go on my own to be with God and pray on how to guide them, Then I would get a revelation an idea there would be a gentle gust of wind suddenly befor the revelation, when all around me was calm, and absolutely no wind what so ever,

Then I would have a light bulb moment and an idea, I would go and speak to friend and advice him,
Then I would go back to be with lord in silent, and the ask is this was this what you wanted me to do, and then all of sudden there would be another gentle gust of wind, it's happened a few times, and when I've checked in the bible the revalations where true.

I asked the lord to give me the strength to step up and speak his word in a busy shopping city centre, the same thing happened I prayed in silence and then a gentle gust of wind came from no where and all was calm, and I stepped up and singing songs with new lyrics, I'm no singer and never have been, but people came up to me and started saying where did you get those lyrics from, they where beautiful, after I finished singing there was another gentle gust of wind.

 

[ResidentAlien]

For one so adament of the understanding of scripture did you ever consider we are in the last days spoken of in revelation the tribulation is not far off but consider that Jesus only had one church he spoke good of he had something against all the other churches and do you know what these churches represent?

If you cannot understand that much then your in no position to be so snarky your just making youself look foolish

I wasn't talking to you. You're meddling where you don't belong. I'll just leave it at that.

 

[Niki7]

Yeah Fundamental. I have a question for you.

What do you mean you have been saved since you have a clear conscience as per your bio? Did you find that in scripture somewhere?

 

[Blain]

I wasn't talking to you. You're meddling where you don't belong. I'll just leave it at that.

Jesus did a lot of meddling with the pharisee's I am sure they hated being called out as well.

 

[Fundaamental]

I've also seen sermons in a concert where all of a sudden a wirl wind appeared from no where when a pastor was asking all the crowd to be blessed,
You coul physically see a little tiny wirl wind

 

[Aaron56]

I don't know, why don't you tell me. That's what you want to do anyway isn't it?

Case in point: who gets to correct you for your snide attitude?

 

[Fundaamental]

Yeah Fundamental. I have a question for you.

What do you mean you have been saved since you have a clear conscience as per your bio? Did you find that in scripture somewhere?

Baptism by fire means you have had your mind cleared of a guilty conscience.

All I know is I've always felt my mind being cleared.

 

[ResidentAlien]

I am talking about the church as the body of Christ as a whole not a building or any visiable or thing no organization only the body those who would call themselves followers of Christ.
And yes there are those out there doing the work of God but not as many as you would think and the thing is a body can't function right if only parts of it are functioning and whether you want to accept it or not the fact of the matter is that the body as a whole is dead yes parts of it is alive and active but the world sees us as lying judgemental hypocrites just another religion and when you actually talk with a lot of other Christians you see the same pattern in their words as well.

The fact that this is our reality is not only sad but unacceptable. We say anything is possible with God we teach what faith can do the preach of the power of the word and of God yet how often do you actually see any of this? how many actually walk in the power and authority in Christ? How many can truly say anything is possible with God? We would be living in a different dimension we would be different we would be alien to the world they wouldn't be able to scientifically explain the things they would see from us the spirit would be alive and every where we would go we would prove anything is possible not just teach it.

As I keep saying remember who you are remember what you called to be and to do and remember who it is you serve

I understand you want to be perceived as a prophet. And in order for your message to be accepted, people have to see things as dire. Fortunately for you, there are a lot of doomsayers out there who will probably swallow your "prophecies" hook, line and sinker. I'm not one of them.

 

[ResidentAlien]

Jesus did a lot of meddling with the pharisee's I am sure they hated being called out as well.

I know, I'm a religious Pharisee, proud of it. I have a few "Proud Pharisee" buttons I wear from time to time.

 

[Blain]

I've also seen sermons in a concert where all of a sudden a wirl wind appeared from no where when a pastor was asking all the crowd to be blessed,
You coul physically see a little tiny wirl wind

I have hear od this happening in small groups and from a friend of mine just last night we both spoke of this very thing for me before I lost my sight and my health I would love going on walks it was one of the best ways to experience him I would take everything in as I talked him about anything and everything he tuahgt me so much just from nature alone and sometimes when on these walks the winds would have a breeze

But sometimes the breeze would be different and my body would instinctivly stop moving as the breeze seem to brush my face gently and I felt him in the wind it was cool and refreshing breathing it in was like you getting a taste of good clean air for the first time it even fills you up inside.

 

[Niki7]

"Blain, post: 5051838, member: 136780"]Sorry I was looking through the pages as I had no idea the thread even got this but I just wanted to touch on this real quick.

You say you can tell the difference between the real and the fake but how many real ones are there out there? Is it any wonder that the vast majority of so called prophets are all fakes? is it any wonder how it almost seems like prophecy is watered down to mystic and spirituality mind sets?

I don't know Blain. First you respond to a post written to someone else then you make some declarative nonsensical response and say prophecy is watered down etc. Who is that for? Yes I can tell the difference between what is real and what is not. Yours are not real as they are extra-biblical supposed revelations from God. No actual so called prophet would have a word that does not agree with scripture.

People don't understand what a prophet is it isn't about the visions and the dreams and the prophecies you give the role of a prophet is to build encourage strenghten and help guide his church and you more than anyone are held accountable for the things you say and the words you claim to be from God's lips.

Yeah actually people do understand what a prophet is and is not. You have made up your own definition in order to assure yourself that you fit the bill. smh

Knowing this do you think I would claim any of this if I did not also consider the heavy toll that would come with blaspheming claiming to be speaking from God?

You would do exactly what you are doing because you think you are a prophet. Oh the irony.

And as for the word of God goes have you not noticed the division and variety of understanding of the word? Even when you read it and study it your never really get the ful picture do you? in some way or form something doesn't line up and a lot of times our own perspective sneaks in without us realizing it and when you see the different views and understanding of just a single verse does it not bother you? Does it not make you think that if we have been using the same method and it still isn't working maybe we need to try a different thing?

Have you noticed Jesus never said His people would be known for their doctrine? It was more along the lines of being known for their love. You are really presumptuous but you assume it is because you are a prophet. Perhaps you are making excuses for your own lack of understanding the word, but the Holy Spirit helps us to understand. Maybe take time out from your visions...which should never supersede the revelations/revelation we already have. You will have to excuse me if you think I am not loving enough. I have no tolerance for people who handle scripture like you do and assume it does not matter because you are a prophet. You and those like you, damage the body of Christ. Itching ears are your audience

I know this may sound contraversal but maybe we simply arent ready to actually study the word. I told him I wanted the truth and wouldn't accept anything less than that I sought after the truth going to Jesus himself because he is the way the truth and the light. Can you imagine my shock when he told me I am not ready to study the word? I have studied it for years I am fascinated with the hebrews and their traditions how their language works how complex God plan from the beginning to the end is so cleaverly woven but I was told I wasn't ready because even if I studied it I wouldn't be getting the whole truth the real truth that eludes so many of us instead he wanted me to first reach a level and frequency with him that I won't lie is not for the average believer it is a mysteruous beautiful and glorious journey but you are going to be taken out of your comfort zone your going to have to drop everything you thought you understood and your going to have to solidfy your resolve If your not in this all the way if your not willing to risk everything for the truth if your not going to chase after it no matter how crazy or wierd or bad things get refusing to back down on your search for the truth your just going to stay where you are in him.

God help you. Scripture itself says to study to show yourself a workman approved unto God. You are way past anyone getting through to you. I was concerned before, but now I am convinced of your deception and the desire to spread it.

Yes we grow as believers and we get closer to him but this is only the first layer it goes deeper than you can imagine and you can say what you will of me but you know I am legally blind it hurts just being on here my health is in dangerous condition and often time i have lay down from just sitting in my chair but at least I am actually willing to act even with all my issues that isn't even including the lack of nutrition in my body because I have so little money that I can only barely survive to the end of the month along with other medical conditions I recieved from the cancer I had and yet I am still obeying him I am still doing what he says to do saying what he says to say



Everyone sees the state of the church even other believers everyone complains of the lack of understanding but I don't see anyone doing something about it. So since no one else would step up to the plate since no one else is willing I said to him use me.

The church is dead claiming otherwise is simply niave and the spirit he gave me is not just in me slowly he is creating a heartbeat in the body again and he is using people like me to do it.

I am the spark that will lead to the grand finale I was sent here to be that spark because he is trying to wake everyone up he is trying to get people to his level out of their old mindset and way of being with him he is calling us to a higher realm with him but people aren't listening

Oh you are the spark, are you? God help you. You have been told by quite a few here and you do not listen. Not surprised, but that is on you.

I think medical advice would be your best option and you have probably heard that before. I'm sorry that you have gone so far in the wrong direction. Truly.

 

[Blain]

I understand you want to be perceived as a prophet. And in order for your message to be accepted, people have to see things as dire. Fortunately for you, there are a lot of doomsayers out there who will probably swallow your "prophecies" hook, line and sinker. I'm not one of them.

No see you don't understand at all I have already expressed my purpose on everything I have said thus far I at least am constantly pointing to God the kingdom the calling he is trying to get us to I am at least planting the seeds of the kingdom and even if I am wrong and I have just been speaking nonesense at least I was willing to listen and obey and at least I provided more than uninteligent snarky dry words

You can do what you want I am not wasting my time arguing with person who just wants to fight with people your intentions are just a waste and clealry you cannot be reasoned with and only have garbage to offer there is no life or any presence of God in your words at and your just being used by the enmy and your completely oblivious to it

So with that I will just leave you be but make no mistake if I see you being snarky towards others or being your usual self towards people then yeah you bet I am going to meddle

 

[Niki7]

Baptism by fire means you have had your mind cleared of a guilty conscience.

All I know is I've always felt my mind being cleared.

Let's get to the point. When did you accept Christ as your Savior?

 

[Fundaamental]

I know, I'm a religious Pharisee, proud of it. I have a few "Proud Pharisee" buttons I wear from time to time.

Are you a moderator here ?.

 

[Blain]

"Blain, post: 5051838, member: 136780"]Sorry I was looking through the pages as I had no idea the thread even got this but I just wanted to touch on this real quick.

You say you can tell the difference between the real and the fake but how many real ones are there out there? Is it any wonder that the vast majority of so called prophets are all fakes? is it any wonder how it almost seems like prophecy is watered down to mystic and spirituality mind sets?

I don't know Blain. First you respond to a post written to someone else then you make some declarative nonsensical response and say prophecy is watered down etc. Who is that for? Yes I can tell the difference between what is real and what is not. Yours are not real as they are extra-biblical supposed revelations from God. No actual so called prophet would have a word that does not agree with scripture.

People don't understand what a prophet is it isn't about the visions and the dreams and the prophecies you give the role of a prophet is to build encourage strenghten and help guide his church and you more than anyone are held accountable for the things you say and the words you claim to be from God's lips.

Yeah actually people do understand what a prophet is and is not. You have made up your own definition in order to assure yourself that you fit the bill. smh

Knowing this do you think I would claim any of this if I did not also consider the heavy toll that would come with blaspheming claiming to be speaking from God?

You would do exactly what you are doing because you think you are a prophet. Oh the irony.

And as for the word of God goes have you not noticed the division and variety of understanding of the word? Even when you read it and study it your never really get the ful picture do you? in some way or form something doesn't line up and a lot of times our own perspective sneaks in without us realizing it and when you see the different views and understanding of just a single verse does it not bother you? Does it not make you think that if we have been using the same method and it still isn't working maybe we need to try a different thing?

Have you noticed Jesus never said His people would be known for their doctrine? It was more along the lines of being known for their love. You are really presumptuous but you assume it is because you are a prophet. Perhaps you are making excuses for your own lack of understanding the word, but the Holy Spirit helps us to understand. Maybe take time out from your visions...which should never supersede the revelations/revelation we already have. You will have to excuse me if you think I am not loving enough. I have no tolerance for people who handle scripture like you do and assume it does not matter because you are a prophet. You and those like you, damage the body of Christ. Itching ears are your audience

I know this may sound contraversal but maybe we simply arent ready to actually study the word. I told him I wanted the truth and wouldn't accept anything less than that I sought after the truth going to Jesus himself because he is the way the truth and the light. Can you imagine my shock when he told me I am not ready to study the word? I have studied it for years I am fascinated with the hebrews and their traditions how their language works how complex God plan from the beginning to the end is so cleaverly woven but I was told I wasn't ready because even if I studied it I wouldn't be getting the whole truth the real truth that eludes so many of us instead he wanted me to first reach a level and frequency with him that I won't lie is not for the average believer it is a mysteruous beautiful and glorious journey but you are going to be taken out of your comfort zone your going to have to drop everything you thought you understood and your going to have to solidfy your resolve If your not in this all the way if your not willing to risk everything for the truth if your not going to chase after it no matter how crazy or wierd or bad things get refusing to back down on your search for the truth your just going to stay where you are in him.

God help you. Scripture itself says to study to show yourself a workman approved unto God. You are way past anyone getting through to you. I was concerned before, but now I am convinced of your deception and the desire to spread it.

Yes we grow as believers and we get closer to him but this is only the first layer it goes deeper than you can imagine and you can say what you will of me but you know I am legally blind it hurts just being on here my health is in dangerous condition and often time i have lay down from just sitting in my chair but at least I am actually willing to act even with all my issues that isn't even including the lack of nutrition in my body because I have so little money that I can only barely survive to the end of the month along with other medical conditions I recieved from the cancer I had and yet I am still obeying him I am still doing what he says to do saying what he says to say



Everyone sees the state of the church even other believers everyone complains of the lack of understanding but I don't see anyone doing something about it. So since no one else would step up to the plate since no one else is willing I said to him use me.

The church is dead claiming otherwise is simply niave and the spirit he gave me is not just in me slowly he is creating a heartbeat in the body again and he is using people like me to do it.

I am the spark that will lead to the grand finale I was sent here to be that spark because he is trying to wake everyone up he is trying to get people to his level out of their old mindset and way of being with him he is calling us to a higher realm with him but people aren't listening

Oh you are the spark, are you? God help you. You have been told by quite a few here and you do not listen. Not surprised, but that is on you.

I think medical advice would be your best option and you have probably heard that before. I'm sorry that you have gone so far in the wrong direction. Truly.

I don't expect you to recieve anything I say I am no stranger to the whole back and forth neither side getting anywhere each one having their view each one believing they are in right but the thing is it doesn't matter to me if you believe me or not or what you think of me this isn't about me and it isn't about you the calling is being spoken I am merely the one who listened and spoke it just the messenger and it isn't going to be popular it goes against our normal ways and requires the faith to go into the unknown with him and it will bring you out of every comfort zone you have but the fruits that you reap are amazing

This is about the church about getting his children uo his level to his frequency to take their position with him once more you can either listen and respond or you can ignore it but you are going to be left behind

 

[ResidentAlien]

No see you don't understand at all I have already expressed my purpose on everything

I've heard you say the church is lackluster, weak, disobedient; but haven't really heard your solution. What should we do? Can you give some examples?

 

[Niki7]

I don't expect you to recieve anything I say I am no stranger to the whole back and forth neither side getting anywhere each one having their view each one believing they are in right but the thing is it doesn't matter to me if you believe me or not or what you think of me this isn't about me and it isn't about you the calling is being spoken I am merely the one who listened and spoke it just the messenger and it isn't going to be popular it goes against our normal ways and requires the faith to go into the unknown with him and it will bring you out of every comfort zone you have but the fruits that you reap are amazing

This is about the church about getting his children uo his level to his frequency to take their position with him once more you can either listen and respond or you can ignore it but you are going to be left behind

You are a stranger to the Bible apparently however.

Whatever you are listening to, is not the Holy Spirit, Or maybe you think God speaks directly to you? Like Moses?

Here is your message:

I know this may sound contraversal but maybe we simply arent ready to actually study the word. I told him I wanted the truth and wouldn't accept anything less than that I sought after the truth going to Jesus himself because he is the way the truth and the light. Can you imagine my shock when he told me I am not ready to study the word? I have studied it for years I am fascinated with the hebrews and their traditions how their language works how complex God plan from the beginning to the end is so cleaverly woven but I was told I wasn't ready because even if I studied it I wouldn't be getting the whole truth the real truth that eludes so many of us instead he wanted me to first reach a level and frequency with him that I won't lie is not for the average believer ( you can read the rest on his post)?

So Blain is telling us that we might not be ready to actually study the Bible. That one sentence there is not the teaching of the Holy Spirit but it is the teaching of deceptive teaching spirits that are gone out into the world to deceive and lead astray all who give their ears to this direct conflict with the word.

Blain is saying Jesus told him (obviously not Jesus but a false deceiving spirit) that he is not ready to study the word and he must first develop a one on one relationship with him (the false spirit) because he is not your average believer and has special revelation that you cannot find in the Bible.

Anyone here agree with that? I hope not

 

[Fundaamental]

I don't expect you to recieve anything I say I am no stranger to the whole back and forth neither side getting anywhere each one having their view each one believing they are in right but the thing is it doesn't matter to me if you believe me or not or what you think of me this isn't about me and it isn't about you the calling is being spoken I am merely the one who listened and spoke it just the messenger and it isn't going to be popular it goes against our normal ways and requires the faith to go into the unknown with him and it will bring you out of every comfort zone you have but the fruits that you reap are amazing

This is about the church about getting his children uo his level to his frequency to take their position with him once more you can either listen and respond or you can ignore it but you are going to be left behind

Your calling was also this brother's calling.

 

[Niki7]

"Fundaamental, post: 5051914, member: 322184"

so when were you saved again? you recounted some experience that does not equate with salvation