The New Testament Recovery Version from Living Stream Ministry?

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Another strawman argument to cast aspersions on the KJV. For those who may not be familiar, apart from captilaization, punctuation, and such things, there are only minor differences between the Textus Receptus of Stephanus (1550) and that of Scrivener (1894), and that is because the King James translators had access to many printed Greek texts and sometimes did not follow that of Stephanus. However, the net result is that the Textus Receptus is practically identical.

IDENTICAL
Scrivener's Textus Receptus 1894 (John 1:1)
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Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος, καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν, καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος.

Stephanus Textus Receptus 1550
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Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος

IDENTICAL
Scrivener's Textus Receptus 1894 (John 3:16)
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Οὕτω γὰρ ἠγάπησεν ὁ Θεὸς τὸν κόσμον, ὥστε τὸν υἱὸν αὐτοῦ τὸν μονογενῆ ἔδωκεν, ἵνα πᾶς ὁ πιστεύων εἰς αὐτὸν μὴ ἀπόληται, ἀλλ’ ἔχῃ ζωὴν αἰώνιον.

Stephanus Textus Receptus 1550
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Οὕτως γὰρ ἠγάπησεν ὁ θεὸς τὸν κόσμον ὥστε τὸν υἱὸν αὐτοῦ τὸν μονογενῆ ἔδωκεν ἵνα πᾶς ὁ πιστεύων εἰς αὐτὸν μὴ ἀπόληται ἀλλ' ἔχῃ ζωὴν αἰώνιον

IDENTICAL

Scrivener's Textus Receptus 1894 (1 Tim 3:16)
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καὶ ὁμολογουμένως μέγα ἐστὶ τὸ τῆς εὐσεβείας μυστήριον· Θεὸς ἐφανερώθη ἐν σαρκί, ἐδικαιώθη ἐν πνεύματι, ὤφθη ἀγγέλοις, ἐκηρύχθη ἐν ἔθνεσιν, ἐπιστεύθη ἐν κόσμῳ, ἀνελήφθη ἐν δόξῃ.

Stephanus Textus Receptus 1550
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καὶ ὁμολογουμένως μέγα ἐστὶν τὸ τῆς εὐσεβείας μυστήριον· Θεὸς ἐφανερώθη ἐν σαρκί ἐδικαιώθη ἐν πνεύματι ὤφθη ἀγγέλοις ἐκηρύχθη ἐν ἔθνεσιν ἐπιστεύθη ἐν κόσμῳ ἀνελήφθη ἐν δόξῃ

No, it is not identical. You should know that. I am not sure what you want to prove by three verses, you can find some same verses in all possible Greek edition, by Westcot, Nestlé Aland, Textus Recepts and Byzantine text. They are the same for 95% percent of time.
So it proves nothing.

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For me, it was important whether Scrivener "TR" is the same as the Stephanus TR and no, it is not. It differs in some places. If it would be the same, the TBS Society would sell Stephanus, not Scrivener. But Stephanus differ on some places from the KJV and thats why they must sell Scrivener, who made it according to the KJV.

When I ordered the Textus Receptus, I wanted to read the Textus Receptus, not the KJV translated back to Greek.

 

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Few examples of differences between the real Textus Receptus and the Scriveners "KJV based textus receptus":

Rev 5:11
Scrivener's Textus Receptus 1894
καὶ εἶδον, καὶ ἤκουσα φωνὴν ἀγγέλων πολλῶν κύκλοθεν τοῦ θρόνου καὶ τῶν ζώων καὶ τῶν πρεσβυτέρων· καὶ ἦν ὁ ἀριθμὸς αὐτῶν μυριάδες μυριάδων, καὶ χιλιάδες χιλιάδων,

Stephanus Textus Receptus 1550
Καὶ εἶδον καὶ ἤκουσα φωνὴν ἀγγέλων πολλῶν κύκλοθεν τοῦ θρόνου καὶ τῶν ζῴων καὶ τῶν πρεσβυτέρων καὶ χιλιάδες χιλιάδων

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Rev 16:5
Scrivener's Textus Receptus 1894
καὶ ἤκουσα τοῦ ἀγγέλου τῶν ὑδάτων λέγοντος, Δίκαιος, Κύριε, εἶ, ὁ ὢν καὶ ὁ ἦν, καὶ ὁ ἐσόμενος ὅτι ταῦτα ἔκρινας·

Stephanus Textus Receptus 1550
καὶ ἤκουσα τοῦ ἀγγέλου τῶν ὑδάτων λέγοντος Δίκαιος Κύριε, εἶ ὁ ὢν καὶ ὁ ἦν καὶ ὁ ὅσιος ὅτι ταῦτα ἔκρινας

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Lk 10:22

Scrivener's Textus Receptus 1894
πάντα παρεδόθη μοι ὑπὸ τοῦ πατρός μου· καὶ οὐδεὶς γινώσκει τίς ἐστιν ὁ υἱός, εἰ μὴ ὁ πατήρ, καὶ τίς ἐστιν ὁ πατήρ, εἰ μὴ ὁ υἱὸς, καὶ ᾧ ἐὰν βούληται ὁ υἱὸς ἀποκαλύψαι.

Stephanus Textus Receptus 1550
καὶ στραφείς πρός τούς μαθητάς εἶπεν Πάντα παρεδόθη μοι ὑπὸ τοῦ πατρός μου καὶ οὐδεὶς γινώσκει τίς ἐστιν ὁ υἱὸς εἰ μὴ ὁ πατήρ καὶ τίς ἐστιν ὁ πατὴρ εἰ μὴ ὁ υἱὸς καὶ ᾧ ἐὰν βούληται ὁ υἱὸς ἀποκαλύψαι

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Who wants to buy real, historical textus receptus by Stephanus, do not buy it from the TBS. They sell 19th century KJV based Greek text.