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That verse says faith is a work.
The work of God, not of us. God creates and sustains faith in us. But I'm sure you know that.


Philippians 2:13
for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure.


Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
 
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The work of God, not of us. God creates and sustains faith in us. But I'm sure you know that.


Philippians 2:13
for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure.


Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
They asked what they must do to do the work of God.
 
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I'll leave you to your preferred doctrine.
Mt approach to doctrine isn’t a preference. I don’t really mind what the Bible says, I just believe it and represent it. I don’t belong to any denominations or anything. I just intensely study the Bible and pray every day.

I’m sure you do the same, but you speak of a preference and I have no preference, do you?
 
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Mt approach to doctrine isn’t a preference. I don’t really mind what the Bible says, I just believe it and represent it. I don’t belong to any denominations or anything. I just intensely study the Bible and pray every day.

I’m sure you do the same, but you speak of a preference and I have no preference, do you?
You clearly have a preference. Or you wouldn't be argumentative and interpret a passage to sustain your arguments.

As I said, I'll leave you to the doctrine you prefer. It would be folly to think to commit to proper exegesis in hopes you'll change your thoughts.

God bless.
 
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You clearly have a preference. Or you wouldn't be argumentative and interpret a passage to sustain your arguments.

As I said, I'll leave you to the doctrine you prefer. It would be folly to think to commit to proper exegesis in hopes you'll change your thoughts.

God bless.
You’re wrong. Adios amigo
 

Mem

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If we think of how Abraham believed, in spite of the natural evidence, or lack thereof, his old body and Sarah's empty dust lined baby shelf. He believed what God said. Could he have 'received' it until that moment?
 

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If we think of how Abraham believed, in spite of the natural evidence, or lack thereof, his old body and Sarah's empty dust lined baby shelf. He believed what God said. Could he have 'received' it until that moment?
amen,

the point is,

He believed in what GOD WOULD DO (the work of God)
 
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And Jesus responded by saying IT IS THE WORK OF GOD

ie, it is not OUR WORK
God doesn’t need to work to believe in Jesus so your logic is flawed there. They asked what they can do to do the work of God in John 6 and Jesus told them to believe in Him. That’s a fact so get over it.
 
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lets see,

almost every time you speak about a passage?
No. A Bible discussion is not putting words in Jesus’ mouth. Where did I say “Jesus said…” and then assigned words to Christ He never said? Answer with proof or repent for bearing false witness against me.