The Philistines, the Canaanites, and giants

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Bladerunner

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when the bible makes the statement all flesh was corrupt but Noah, had Noahs sons been born? could a corrupted blood line go through a women? maybe they came from one of the women? Shem was the only one that didnt have giants in the later generations, Japeth a few and Ham had many.

Yes, the corrupted line did come through the woman. It was very fortunate that it happened that way instead of by fallen angels. The whole world today world be corrupted!

It is based on the X and Y chromosomes. Man-------WOman
XY X1X2
Since we know that the Sons did Not have any imperfections, it was from a WOman and attached to the X chromosome. Since we did not see many Giants, we can safely assume that one X Gene was corrupted.

Out of Four Children

X X1 Female
X X2 Female
Y X1 Male
Y X2 Male

As one can see it would depend upon which X chromosome X1 or X2 is corupted. Out of four Children the possibility of having a corrupted child each birth is 50%. The Possiblilty of the child of each Birth is 50%.

By carrying this out a little further- next generation....

A male Child would not have the corrupted gene since all he will contribute to the Child is a Y gene which is not affected.
Y
If His mate is NOT corrupted, then they will have a normal child, Male or Female.


A Female Child of the first Generation that has no corrupted gene (50%) would be like the male above and produce normal Children.

HOWEVER A corrupted Male CHild or a corrupted Female Child of the First Generation can produce Male and Females that are corrupted. with percentages ranging from 25% to 100%.


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If a fallen angel had given contributed to the First Generation Child, I would consider that Both of HIS Genes (X and Y) were corrupted there by producing 100% corruption in both the male and female line throughout History. No one would be saved out of this scenario.

Angel (XY) Woman (XX) not corrupted
x corrupted X 1 = Female corrupted (x X1)
x corrupted X 2 = Female Corupted (x X2)

Y Corrupted X1 = Male Corrupted (Y X1)
Y Corrupted X2 = Male Corrupted (Y X2)

This will produce children who not only have a 100% change of being corrupted, The Male Child will be have Both Genes that are corrupted. The Female will have a 50-50% chance of having both Genes that corrupted.

This would cause a wide margin of the population to have both Genes corrupted or be one hundred percent a Giant.
 

MarcR

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To me many will explain away or flat ignore the following truths when it comes to the Giants.....

a. During the days of NOAH there were giants
b. God wiped out every living thing under the heaven on the earth except that and those which were in the ark
c. Noah was upright in his generations...the word can carry the idea of forensically pure
d. ALL flesh had corrupted IT'S way upon the earth
e. NOAH's sons came from NOAH's seed (dna)
f. Where did the giants come from during the days of David if everything was wiped out during the flood (I believe everything was wiped out)

Shem settled the MIDDLE EASTERN area
Ham the African area
Japheth European area

There is no record of Noah bearing children after the flood.
So.....

A. Where did they come from before the flood
B. Where did they come from in the time of David some 1300 years or so after the flood

Regardless of view or opinion....there is a history of skeletons being found and destroyed by institutions such as the Smithsonian Institute.....of enormous size and stature....heights that cannot be comprehended by most and rejected by most.

Very interesting concepts for sure.......
Ge 6:2-4
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
KJV
seems to suggest that they came from (fallen) angels interbreeding with women.

All of the three other OT references to sons of God are found in Job, and are obvious references to angels.
 
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Ge 6:2-4
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
KJV
seems to suggest that they came from (fallen) angels interbreeding with women.

All of the three other OT references to sons of God are found in Job, and are obvious references to angels.
Obviously bro.....and as I have stated several times there are sexual undertones applied unto this in JUDE when the angels that left their first estate are compared to Sodom and going after strange flesh.......... ;)
 
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i believe that we could have the giants come back today.

remember Jesus said that it shall be like the days of noah when He returns.
 

jb

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i believe that we could have the giants come back today.

remember Jesus said that it shall be like the days of noah when He returns.
Better get your spiritual sling shots ready! 1Sam 17 (all).
 
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i believe that we could have the giants come back today.

remember Jesus said that it shall be like the days of noah when He returns.
It will be like the days of Noah,but not concerning giants,but they will go about business as usual not taking heed to the saints preaching that it is the end time,and God is getting ready to end this sin business on earth,so get right with Him or suffer the consequence,like in the days of Noah it was business as usual not giving heed to Noah concerning the flood.

Also they were continuously wicked before the flood,and will be like that at the beast kingdom,for all who do not love God will be deceived by a devil and they will be continuously evil.
 

Bladerunner

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i believe that we could have the giants come back today.

remember Jesus said that it shall be like the days of noah when He returns.

From what I have heard, a US army unit killed a couple years ago. Large red headed giant that ate several of their group before they killed him. It seems helicopters came in and flew him away, he was so large. The gov shut it down but a pilot that helped fly it, came forward with the word.


They are still on this earth as are Dinosaurs. Don't laugh. There are areas that we cannot get into to find out and the natives that do live there tell of large "Platasaurus" type animals in the rivers.

There have been skeletons unearthed in peru, bolivia, etc. These have all been taken over by the gov. They want the DNA for war purposes.