The purpose of ceremonial laws?
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please show me in the bible where the separation of laws is, ive never seen this in the bible, ive heard mans opinions and suppositions on this topic but ive never seen this in the biblical text, Many refer to the church Fathers as their source, myself I see folly in following man as it says in psalm 118:8.
the biblical text NEVEr makes a distinction between any laws, there are laws, statutes and Judgments listed but never a seperaton from ceremonial and moral. I am wondering where all this came form if its not in the bible.
the biblical text NEVEr makes a distinction between any laws, there are laws, statutes and Judgments listed but never a seperaton from ceremonial and moral. I am wondering where all this came form if its not in the bible.
The law is spiritual with physical foreshadows. This is why Jesus taught in parables, using the physical to describe the spiritual. If we are unable to grasp this concept, we fall into the following scenario.
"Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand." (Matthew 13:13 KJV)
"Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand." (Matthew 13:13 KJV)
It is quite clear. Many of the biblical feasts require the Jewish people to gather in Jerusalem. The "Torah observers" of today do not, therefore they are actually only half-way observing the Torah. (James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.")
Thou shalt not steal does not require you to gather in Jerusalem and is something that is useful and true to everyone, and this is something specifically mentioned in the New Testament by both Jesus and Paul.
There is a clear difference. One commandment is a moral one, it is morally wrong to steal. The other one is not, it is not morally wrong to wear two kinds of fabrics. You see how simple this is when you avoid the traps laid out by the crafty judaizers.
Thou shalt not steal does not require you to gather in Jerusalem and is something that is useful and true to everyone, and this is something specifically mentioned in the New Testament by both Jesus and Paul.
There is a clear difference. One commandment is a moral one, it is morally wrong to steal. The other one is not, it is not morally wrong to wear two kinds of fabrics. You see how simple this is when you avoid the traps laid out by the crafty judaizers.
Yes You're right but that was one covenant. We Christians are under another covenant....We are not bound by the law, although the promise of the Old Covenant is our too. And we never want to throw out the Old Covenant because it is tied very strongly to the New. Christianity has no replacement for the Feasts, and I wish we could follow the feasts more. The only way we can follow the feasts is to study about them and follow them as best we can. The Holy Spirit is wonderful there too because He is such a fine teacher.
Excellent point! There are 3 main feasts.
The feast of unleavened bread,
The feast of weeks,
And the feast of tabernacles.
The feast of "Unleavened Bread" depicts being "born again," and escaping the slavery of sin.
"Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?" (John 3:9-10 KJV)
The "Feast of Weeks" (first fruits) are culminated by the 50th day called "Pentecost." This day is exactly the same day the tablets of stone were given to Moses during the 3rd month of the year. This feast is a representative of the life we live in Christ while still in this mortal body.
"But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept." (1 Corinthians 15:20 KJV)
"And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest," (Exodus 34:22a KJV)
"I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me:" (Galatians 2:20a KJV)
The "Feast of Tabernacles" is actually a rehearsal that represents the camaraderie between God's children and Himself through Christ Jesus, when Christ will rule for 1000 years on this earth during the millennial period.
"And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed." (Daniel 7:14 KJV)
"And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles." (Zechariah 14:16 KJV)
"And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. (Revelation 19:15 KJV)
"Now the Jew's feast of tabernacles was at hand. Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast: for my time is not yet full come." (John 7:2 and 8 KJV)
The feast of unleavened bread,
The feast of weeks,
And the feast of tabernacles.
The feast of "Unleavened Bread" depicts being "born again," and escaping the slavery of sin.
"Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?" (John 3:9-10 KJV)
The "Feast of Weeks" (first fruits) are culminated by the 50th day called "Pentecost." This day is exactly the same day the tablets of stone were given to Moses during the 3rd month of the year. This feast is a representative of the life we live in Christ while still in this mortal body.
"But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept." (1 Corinthians 15:20 KJV)
"And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest," (Exodus 34:22a KJV)
"I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me:" (Galatians 2:20a KJV)
The "Feast of Tabernacles" is actually a rehearsal that represents the camaraderie between God's children and Himself through Christ Jesus, when Christ will rule for 1000 years on this earth during the millennial period.
"And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed." (Daniel 7:14 KJV)
"And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles." (Zechariah 14:16 KJV)
"And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. (Revelation 19:15 KJV)
"Now the Jew's feast of tabernacles was at hand. Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast: for my time is not yet full come." (John 7:2 and 8 KJV)
Some other points I would like to make concerning the physical ceremonies that are the foreshadowing of the spiritual.
This is just a smidgen of a much bigger picture.
A burnt offering represented commitment toward God Almighty. There were 3 things put on the altar of burning. The kidneys, the caul (gallbladder) and the fat for fuel. The kidneys separate the good from the bad concerning intake. The caul contains "bile" that aids in digestion. and the fat sustains the animal between meals. These all represent the things we are born into concerning "sin." It's like being "baptized by fire." Of course we cannot forget being baptized by the Holy Ghost either. (smile)
"I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:" (Matthew 3:11 KJV)
The "sin offering" is for ignorant infractions.
The "trespass offering" is for sins becoming known after the fact.
The peace offering commemorates the connection between the person and Almighty God.
"Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need." (Hebrews 4:16 KJV)
This is just a smidgen of a much bigger picture.
A burnt offering represented commitment toward God Almighty. There were 3 things put on the altar of burning. The kidneys, the caul (gallbladder) and the fat for fuel. The kidneys separate the good from the bad concerning intake. The caul contains "bile" that aids in digestion. and the fat sustains the animal between meals. These all represent the things we are born into concerning "sin." It's like being "baptized by fire." Of course we cannot forget being baptized by the Holy Ghost either. (smile)
"I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:" (Matthew 3:11 KJV)
The "sin offering" is for ignorant infractions.
The "trespass offering" is for sins becoming known after the fact.
The peace offering commemorates the connection between the person and Almighty God.
"Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need." (Hebrews 4:16 KJV)
Correct it was so let us now look art this new covenant see who it is with and what happens within its directives, you see many think that each covenant negates the one before it , this is simply not the case or there would be no reason for a rainbow to appear now.
This new covenant is illustrated in a few places in biblical text but not as clearly as in Jer. 31:31-34 read these words carefully and decide for yourself.
Also I want to be clear and say I am in now way trying to pursued you to believe this or that,however the statement made was that these directives wern't actually commands and this is what I was addressing, that and the fact that the bible itself makes no distinction between so-called ceremonial laws and moral laws, or any other delineation, as stated previously please show biblical text its its proper context to show this directly, otherwise its just mans opinions, learned perhaps but suppositions non-the less.
This new covenant is illustrated in a few places in biblical text but not as clearly as in Jer. 31:31-34 read these words carefully and decide for yourself.
Also I want to be clear and say I am in now way trying to pursued you to believe this or that,however the statement made was that these directives wern't actually commands and this is what I was addressing, that and the fact that the bible itself makes no distinction between so-called ceremonial laws and moral laws, or any other delineation, as stated previously please show biblical text its its proper context to show this directly, otherwise its just mans opinions, learned perhaps but suppositions non-the less.
The ceremonial laws had many purposes:
1. To show men the holiness of God, and that He is separated from sinners until sins are atoned for.
2. To show men that all have sinned, and that God has made provision for their sins and their guilt.
3. To show men that the sacrifice of unblemished animals was necessary to "cover" sins, but they had to be repeated since they could not take away sins.
4. To show men that sin has a penalty and that the penalty is death.
5. To show men the necessity of the shed blood of an innocent creature, thus pointing to the Lamb. of God.
6. To show men that every aspect of the Tabernacle and the Temple had spiritual significance.
1. To show men the holiness of God, and that He is separated from sinners until sins are atoned for.
2. To show men that all have sinned, and that God has made provision for their sins and their guilt.
3. To show men that the sacrifice of unblemished animals was necessary to "cover" sins, but they had to be repeated since they could not take away sins.
4. To show men that sin has a penalty and that the penalty is death.
5. To show men the necessity of the shed blood of an innocent creature, thus pointing to the Lamb. of God.
6. To show men that every aspect of the Tabernacle and the Temple had spiritual significance.