The Reason You are Told that God No Longer Speaks.
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No offense but you seem to think anyone who hears him other than reading the word is crazy even though many have already given you many good answers as to why he speaks in other ways and with scriptures so I am not sure you are in any place to call anyone crazy.
Besides I don't think it is up to us to decide how he talks to people especially if it is based on our own perception of how his voice works.
Besides I don't think it is up to us to decide how he talks to people especially if it is based on our own perception of how his voice works.
And you see there is my point , your own perception is trying to make something it isn't.
To have a God above him we have to have a worship in it meaning we idolize it and devote ourselves to it.
If a person says they heard his voice in their minds that is not worship that is thinking they heard him speak in their minds.
At the very least you could have said how we should listen to vain spirits of the flesh, and also in case you didn't know many times in scripture he spoke out loud to people I mean he even used a burning bush and a donkey to speak so how far of a strech is it to think he could interact with our thoughts as well?
As far as I have seen you have no evidence that he speaks to us in the scriptures alone and that we no longer hear him out loud or in visions and dreams but what about this?
Psalm 85:8
Let me hear what God the Lord will speak, for he will speak peace to his people, to his saints; but let them not turn back to folly.
Isaiah 55:3
Incline your ear, and come to me; hear, that your soul may live; and I will make with you an everlasting covenant, my steadfast, sure love for David.
And this one in particular
Hebrews 3:15
As it is said, “Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.
In the entire bible it speaks of hearing his voice but it never says it is by reading the scriptures alone. When you speak or try to teach the gospel or any kind of doctrine or say you hear a sermon or go to church if what you are listening to is not from the spirit then it is of man and if the spirit speaks then is that not his voice and do you not hear and listen?
Do we have salvation based on written words or by hearing by faith? So if what you say is true then by your own words anything you have said in your bashing of his voice is of man and your flesh not of God but if I am in the right and I speak what he places in my heart to speak then it is by the spirit thus his voice being spoken through us but you harden your heart and plug your ears even when you are presented with scripture after scripture that says otherwise and again you say we hear him through his word yet if any scripture presented defies your belief you shut your ears to the voice you claim is the only true voice
To have a God above him we have to have a worship in it meaning we idolize it and devote ourselves to it.
If a person says they heard his voice in their minds that is not worship that is thinking they heard him speak in their minds.
At the very least you could have said how we should listen to vain spirits of the flesh, and also in case you didn't know many times in scripture he spoke out loud to people I mean he even used a burning bush and a donkey to speak so how far of a strech is it to think he could interact with our thoughts as well?
As far as I have seen you have no evidence that he speaks to us in the scriptures alone and that we no longer hear him out loud or in visions and dreams but what about this?
Psalm 85:8
Let me hear what God the Lord will speak, for he will speak peace to his people, to his saints; but let them not turn back to folly.
Isaiah 55:3
Incline your ear, and come to me; hear, that your soul may live; and I will make with you an everlasting covenant, my steadfast, sure love for David.
And this one in particular
Hebrews 3:15
As it is said, “Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.
In the entire bible it speaks of hearing his voice but it never says it is by reading the scriptures alone. When you speak or try to teach the gospel or any kind of doctrine or say you hear a sermon or go to church if what you are listening to is not from the spirit then it is of man and if the spirit speaks then is that not his voice and do you not hear and listen?
Do we have salvation based on written words or by hearing by faith? So if what you say is true then by your own words anything you have said in your bashing of his voice is of man and your flesh not of God but if I am in the right and I speak what he places in my heart to speak then it is by the spirit thus his voice being spoken through us but you harden your heart and plug your ears even when you are presented with scripture after scripture that says otherwise and again you say we hear him through his word yet if any scripture presented defies your belief you shut your ears to the voice you claim is the only true voice
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From my own personal perspective....God speaks to me....he has also spoken to me through other people...he also uses people as vessels.
He also spoke to Adam and Eve....I don’t limit God to the bible.....all that Jesus did......could never all be recorded in the bible.
I don’t have a problem if some think I’m mad....I know in my spirit when the Lord speaks to me....I won’t get drawn into arguing or proving it...because I can’t......I just know what I know....when it happens it is always to “Glorify God”....no one else.
He also spoke to Adam and Eve....I don’t limit God to the bible.....all that Jesus did......could never all be recorded in the bible.
I don’t have a problem if some think I’m mad....I know in my spirit when the Lord speaks to me....I won’t get drawn into arguing or proving it...because I can’t......I just know what I know....when it happens it is always to “Glorify God”....no one else.
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Paul did not say it would end. He said when that which is perfect has come meaning Jesus at His second coming the spiritual gifts will no longer be necessary. The gifts were given to equip the saints (born again believers) for the work of the ministry. Born again believers are still calling out to others to accept Jesus as their savior.
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I provided evidence from the word that devils/demons do not just flee at the name of Jesus:
Acts 19:13-16
"Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.
And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.
And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded."
Acts 19:13-16
"Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.
And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.
And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded."
Speaking in tongues is the evidence of the infilling of the Holy Ghost/Spirit. The word is clear on that topic even though many reject it.
I know this to be true because of the word, and secondly because of my personal experience that aligned with the word:
I received the baptism of the Holy Ghost and spoke in tongues when I was very young. Years later I got water baptized "in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost." Afterward, upon seeing that all recorded water baptisms were done in the name of the Lord Jesus I was water baptized that way. For me, personally, afterward my spiritual eyes were indeed open. (John 3:3) I could "see" (understand) scriptures with greater clarity than in the past.
During prayer, my language changes to tongues as well at times when I am singing.
About ten years later, God imparted the Spiritual gift of tongues upon me that was interpreted by another for edification of the church body. I had not been seeking the gift, however, while praising God in the worship service He decided to flow through me and speak a message to the congregation.
As I was praising God I could feel His presence stronger than in times past; so strong in fact, I sensed something was definitely different but had no idea what was going on. As I praised the Lord someone to my left began to speak in tongues. I remember thinking Lord if that is what you wanted me to do I would have done it. Immediately the individual stopped speaking. I felt what can only be described as an internal explosion; a feeling of complete fullness that my body could not contain. To my utter dismay the fullness began pouring out in the form of tongues. There I was, normally the shy, quiet one, loudly proclaiming half of a message that was afterward interpreted. I say half, because the interpretation began and part way through the message there was a distinct pause. The proclaimed message began with the other individual and was picked up and concluded through me.
On the drive home I could not help re-living the incident over, and over in my mind. I was amazed at what had occurred. I questioned the Lord about the explosive feeling. His answer was not audible, I heard it in my mind, “I consumed the sacrifice.” I was in awe. I realized that God would only use my vocal cords to speak to His people if I was willing for Him to do so.
I know this to be true because of the word, and secondly because of my personal experience that aligned with the word:
I received the baptism of the Holy Ghost and spoke in tongues when I was very young. Years later I got water baptized "in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost." Afterward, upon seeing that all recorded water baptisms were done in the name of the Lord Jesus I was water baptized that way. For me, personally, afterward my spiritual eyes were indeed open. (John 3:3) I could "see" (understand) scriptures with greater clarity than in the past.
During prayer, my language changes to tongues as well at times when I am singing.
About ten years later, God imparted the Spiritual gift of tongues upon me that was interpreted by another for edification of the church body. I had not been seeking the gift, however, while praising God in the worship service He decided to flow through me and speak a message to the congregation.
As I was praising God I could feel His presence stronger than in times past; so strong in fact, I sensed something was definitely different but had no idea what was going on. As I praised the Lord someone to my left began to speak in tongues. I remember thinking Lord if that is what you wanted me to do I would have done it. Immediately the individual stopped speaking. I felt what can only be described as an internal explosion; a feeling of complete fullness that my body could not contain. To my utter dismay the fullness began pouring out in the form of tongues. There I was, normally the shy, quiet one, loudly proclaiming half of a message that was afterward interpreted. I say half, because the interpretation began and part way through the message there was a distinct pause. The proclaimed message began with the other individual and was picked up and concluded through me.
On the drive home I could not help re-living the incident over, and over in my mind. I was amazed at what had occurred. I questioned the Lord about the explosive feeling. His answer was not audible, I heard it in my mind, “I consumed the sacrifice.” I was in awe. I realized that God would only use my vocal cords to speak to His people if I was willing for Him to do so.
The outpourings and laying on of hands you continue to reference pertain to the actual infilling of the promised Gift of the Holy Ghost into a person after they accept the gospel message.
As far as distribution of spiritual gifts, they too can be received through the laying on of hands as in the case of Timothy (1 Tim 4:14) or spontaneously. The Holy Spirit flows through born again believer giving a word of knowledge, discerning of spirits, etc. in order to fulfill God's purposes here on earth:
"For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. 1 Cor 12:8-11
As far as distribution of spiritual gifts, they too can be received through the laying on of hands as in the case of Timothy (1 Tim 4:14) or spontaneously. The Holy Spirit flows through born again believer giving a word of knowledge, discerning of spirits, etc. in order to fulfill God's purposes here on earth:
"For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. 1 Cor 12:8-11