The role of the law in the covenant. Galatians.
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Thank God that we Christians that we have died to the law of Moses and we live by the life of Christ in us now. The law is still in effect for those that are not in Christ.
The law of Moses is really a manifestation of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. This law Paul says in Romans 2:14-15 is in the heart of every person whether they have heard of the law of Moses or not. We were never meant to eat of that tree - we were meant to eat of the tree of Life which is Christ Himself.
The law was made for the unrighteous - it is not for the righteous. ( 1 Tim 1:9 ) We are the righteous in Christ because we have His righteousness. We do not try to establish our own righteousness in the New Covenant. We read the law to see Jesus fulfilling the whole law and that we are in Him joined as one spirit.
We live by the life of Christ in us now which is the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter. The law of Moses has no place in the life of the New Covenant believer in Christ's work - we are in Him now and He has fulfilled the whole law and satisfied the demands of the Law.
We can trust His life in us to live and walk in His love that is in our new hearts now. Romans 5:5. This love will meet the intent of all the law as the fruit of the Spirit is manifested in our lives.
The law of Moses is really a manifestation of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. This law Paul says in Romans 2:14-15 is in the heart of every person whether they have heard of the law of Moses or not. We were never meant to eat of that tree - we were meant to eat of the tree of Life which is Christ Himself.
The law was made for the unrighteous - it is not for the righteous. ( 1 Tim 1:9 ) We are the righteous in Christ because we have His righteousness. We do not try to establish our own righteousness in the New Covenant. We read the law to see Jesus fulfilling the whole law and that we are in Him joined as one spirit.
We live by the life of Christ in us now which is the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter. The law of Moses has no place in the life of the New Covenant believer in Christ's work - we are in Him now and He has fulfilled the whole law and satisfied the demands of the Law.
We can trust His life in us to live and walk in His love that is in our new hearts now. Romans 5:5. This love will meet the intent of all the law as the fruit of the Spirit is manifested in our lives.
I may have misunderstood you here brother, but are you suggesting that their obedience to what god had commanded was their transgression? This can not be. Paul makes it clear what their transgression was as it is written:
Rom 2:23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?
Rom 2:24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.
Rom 2:25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
Rom 2:26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
Rom 2:27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
So we can see that it is breaking the law that is their transgression, but the reason why they broke it is the key as it is written:
Rom 9:30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
Rom 9:31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
Rom 9:32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
Rom 9:33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
and again:
Heb 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
Faith was the issue, they transgressed because they had no faith and thus were carnal and law breakers.
1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
Faith is the real issue. They did not believe God could make them holy. But we who believe in Christ are made holy by the power that works within us, even Christ our saviour.
Rom 2:23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?
Rom 2:24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.
Rom 2:25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
Rom 2:26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
Rom 2:27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
So we can see that it is breaking the law that is their transgression, but the reason why they broke it is the key as it is written:
Rom 9:30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
Rom 9:31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
Rom 9:32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
Rom 9:33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
and again:
Heb 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
Faith was the issue, they transgressed because they had no faith and thus were carnal and law breakers.
1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
Faith is the real issue. They did not believe God could make them holy. But we who believe in Christ are made holy by the power that works within us, even Christ our saviour.
If this is so, then what is it that shows sin today? How do we know what sin is as the bible tells us it is breaking the law. If the law has no place in the new covenant then why does God write it in our hearts as it is written:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Paul explains this in his letter to the Corinthians:
2Co 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
While the law was on stone it only condemned us as we all have broken it which is sin still to this day it is sin to break it. But when God puts the law on our hearts we obey as it is written:
Rom 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
Rom 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
Rom 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Rom 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
So clearly having the law on the heart is seen by the fruit of obeying that law actually doing it by nature. why? Because we become partakers of the Divine nature as Peter said:
2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
Gods Power in Christ Jesus transforms the sinner into a saint, the disobedient into obedient by his grace.
For when we were Carnal the law was a prison house which brought death and no hope. But to those who are filled with the Spirit the law is fulfilled within us as it is written:
2Co 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
2Co 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
2Co 3:8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
2Co 3:9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
2Co 3:10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
and again:
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
So we see that the ministration of the letter on stone kills as the stone has no power to change the sinner but only condemn. But the Spirit is more glorious as it has power to change the sinner and the law is thus fulfilled in us. We no longer walk in the sins of the flesh but in obedience as it is written:
Rom 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Rom 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Rom 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
We have been delivered from sin/law breaking and have become servants of the righteousness of the law by faith as it is written again:
Rom 2:26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
Rom 2:27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
This is the good news. Sin is sin and the law shows what sin is by showing what righteousness is:
Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Doing away with the law would mean there is no sin and no need of a saviour. Jesus did not come to take away the law/righteousness but rather to take away sin. For where there is no sin/transgression there is no condemnation as it is written:
Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
and again:
1Jn 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
1Jn 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
1Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
So it is that the good news is not simply forgiveness but power as it is written:
Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
What does that power do?
Rom 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
What does the resurrection power do?
Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Rom 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
Rom 6:9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
Rom 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
Rom 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Rom 6:12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
Rom 6:13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
So then it is clear that the Gospel is the power of God to transform the sinner/law breaker into a righteous person/law keeper. This is the work of God as the law on stone had no power to transform us but only condemn us. By looking to Jesus we become changed into his image by his power as it is written:
2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
2Co 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
So then the law does indeed play a part in the new covenant. It is a gift through the Lord Jesus unto salvation from sin. Thus we know that sin shall never rise again. as those who will be in the kingdom know the power of God to deliver from sin. Blessings.
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Paul explains this in his letter to the Corinthians:
2Co 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
While the law was on stone it only condemned us as we all have broken it which is sin still to this day it is sin to break it. But when God puts the law on our hearts we obey as it is written:
Rom 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
Rom 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
Rom 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Rom 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
So clearly having the law on the heart is seen by the fruit of obeying that law actually doing it by nature. why? Because we become partakers of the Divine nature as Peter said:
2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
Gods Power in Christ Jesus transforms the sinner into a saint, the disobedient into obedient by his grace.
For when we were Carnal the law was a prison house which brought death and no hope. But to those who are filled with the Spirit the law is fulfilled within us as it is written:
2Co 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
2Co 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
2Co 3:8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
2Co 3:9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
2Co 3:10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
and again:
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
So we see that the ministration of the letter on stone kills as the stone has no power to change the sinner but only condemn. But the Spirit is more glorious as it has power to change the sinner and the law is thus fulfilled in us. We no longer walk in the sins of the flesh but in obedience as it is written:
Rom 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Rom 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Rom 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
We have been delivered from sin/law breaking and have become servants of the righteousness of the law by faith as it is written again:
Rom 2:26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
Rom 2:27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
This is the good news. Sin is sin and the law shows what sin is by showing what righteousness is:
Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Doing away with the law would mean there is no sin and no need of a saviour. Jesus did not come to take away the law/righteousness but rather to take away sin. For where there is no sin/transgression there is no condemnation as it is written:
Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
and again:
1Jn 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
1Jn 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
1Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
So it is that the good news is not simply forgiveness but power as it is written:
Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
What does that power do?
Rom 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
What does the resurrection power do?
Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Rom 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
Rom 6:9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
Rom 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
Rom 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Rom 6:12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
Rom 6:13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
So then it is clear that the Gospel is the power of God to transform the sinner/law breaker into a righteous person/law keeper. This is the work of God as the law on stone had no power to transform us but only condemn us. By looking to Jesus we become changed into his image by his power as it is written:
2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
2Co 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
So then the law does indeed play a part in the new covenant. It is a gift through the Lord Jesus unto salvation from sin. Thus we know that sin shall never rise again. as those who will be in the kingdom know the power of God to deliver from sin. Blessings.
14 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law.15 They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them Romans 2:
thank god i am a gentile.
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If this is so, then what is it that shows sin today? How do we know what sin is as the bible tells us it is breaking the law. If the law has no place in the new covenant then why does God write it in our hearts as it is written:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Paul explains this in his letter to the Corinthians:
2Co 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
While the law was on stone it only condemned us as we all have broken it which is sin still to this day it is sin to break it. But when God puts the law on our hearts we obey as it is written:
Rom 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
Rom 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
Rom 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Rom 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
So clearly having the law on the heart is seen by the fruit of obeying that law actually doing it by nature. why? Because we become partakers of the Divine nature as Peter said:
2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
Gods Power in Christ Jesus transforms the sinner into a saint, the disobedient into obedient by his grace.
For when we were Carnal the law was a prison house which brought death and no hope. But to those who are filled with the Spirit the law is fulfilled within us as it is written:
2Co 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
2Co 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
2Co 3:8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
2Co 3:9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
2Co 3:10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
and again:
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
So we see that the ministration of the letter on stone kills as the stone has no power to change the sinner but only condemn. But the Spirit is more glorious as it has power to change the sinner and the law is thus fulfilled in us. We no longer walk in the sins of the flesh but in obedience as it is written:
Rom 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Rom 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Rom 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
We have been delivered from sin/law breaking and have become servants of the righteousness of the law by faith as it is written again:
Rom 2:26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
Rom 2:27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
This is the good news. Sin is sin and the law shows what sin is by showing what righteousness is:
Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Doing away with the law would mean there is no sin and no need of a saviour. Jesus did not come to take away the law/righteousness but rather to take away sin. For where there is no sin/transgression there is no condemnation as it is written:
Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
and again:
1Jn 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
1Jn 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
1Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
So it is that the good news is not simply forgiveness but power as it is written:
Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
What does that power do?
Rom 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
What does the resurrection power do?
Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Rom 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
Rom 6:9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
Rom 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
Rom 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Rom 6:12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
Rom 6:13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
So then it is clear that the Gospel is the power of God to transform the sinner/law breaker into a righteous person/law keeper. This is the work of God as the law on stone had no power to transform us but only condemn us. By looking to Jesus we become changed into his image by his power as it is written:
2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
2Co 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
So then the law does indeed play a part in the new covenant. It is a gift through the Lord Jesus unto salvation from sin. Thus we know that sin shall never rise again. as those who will be in the kingdom know the power of God to deliver from sin. Blessings.
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Paul explains this in his letter to the Corinthians:
2Co 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
While the law was on stone it only condemned us as we all have broken it which is sin still to this day it is sin to break it. But when God puts the law on our hearts we obey as it is written:
Rom 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
Rom 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
Rom 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Rom 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
So clearly having the law on the heart is seen by the fruit of obeying that law actually doing it by nature. why? Because we become partakers of the Divine nature as Peter said:
2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
Gods Power in Christ Jesus transforms the sinner into a saint, the disobedient into obedient by his grace.
For when we were Carnal the law was a prison house which brought death and no hope. But to those who are filled with the Spirit the law is fulfilled within us as it is written:
2Co 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
2Co 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
2Co 3:8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
2Co 3:9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
2Co 3:10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
and again:
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
So we see that the ministration of the letter on stone kills as the stone has no power to change the sinner but only condemn. But the Spirit is more glorious as it has power to change the sinner and the law is thus fulfilled in us. We no longer walk in the sins of the flesh but in obedience as it is written:
Rom 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Rom 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Rom 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
We have been delivered from sin/law breaking and have become servants of the righteousness of the law by faith as it is written again:
Rom 2:26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
Rom 2:27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
This is the good news. Sin is sin and the law shows what sin is by showing what righteousness is:
Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Doing away with the law would mean there is no sin and no need of a saviour. Jesus did not come to take away the law/righteousness but rather to take away sin. For where there is no sin/transgression there is no condemnation as it is written:
Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
and again:
1Jn 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
1Jn 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
1Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
So it is that the good news is not simply forgiveness but power as it is written:
Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
What does that power do?
Rom 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
What does the resurrection power do?
Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Rom 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
Rom 6:9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
Rom 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
Rom 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Rom 6:12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
Rom 6:13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
So then it is clear that the Gospel is the power of God to transform the sinner/law breaker into a righteous person/law keeper. This is the work of God as the law on stone had no power to transform us but only condemn us. By looking to Jesus we become changed into his image by his power as it is written:
2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
2Co 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
So then the law does indeed play a part in the new covenant. It is a gift through the Lord Jesus unto salvation from sin. Thus we know that sin shall never rise again. as those who will be in the kingdom know the power of God to deliver from sin. Blessings.
When Paul is saying anything about the law of how we are not saved by the righteousness of the law,he is speaking in a fleshy perspective,for the flesh cannot keep the law perfectly,which is the moral laws,laws of love.
When Paul is saying we are not under the law,he is speaking in a spiritual perspective,being led of the Spirit,for a Spirit led life will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh,and will show the characteristics of the Spirit,so the law cannot touch them for prosecution.
When Paul say not saved by works,he is speaking in a fleshy perspective of people doing works apart from Christ,like the Gentiles false religions,and apart from the Spirit,where James talks in a spiritual perspective,faith with out works is dead,and we are justified by works,and not faith alone.
Paul said we do not void out the law through faith,but we establish the law,and the law is spiritual,and the commandment holy,just,and good.
The two greatest commandments love God,and love people,which the ten commandments include those 2 greatest laws,and is spiritual,and anything spiritual we have to obey.
People should understand when Paul is speaking from a fleshy perspective,or before Christ,and a spiritual perspective,by the Spirit,and do not confuse them.
By a fleshy perspective,we are not saved by works,and we are not saved by the righteousness of the law,and by a spiritual perspective,not under the law,and a Spirit led life will not fulfill the desires of the flesh,and work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
If we are led of the Spirit we will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh,so we will obey the law,the spiritual laws,therefore the law cannot touch us for prosecution,not you are not under the law as if it does not apply,for we do not void out the law through faith,but we establish the law by the Spirit.
When Paul is saying we are not under the law,he is speaking in a spiritual perspective,being led of the Spirit,for a Spirit led life will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh,and will show the characteristics of the Spirit,so the law cannot touch them for prosecution.
When Paul say not saved by works,he is speaking in a fleshy perspective of people doing works apart from Christ,like the Gentiles false religions,and apart from the Spirit,where James talks in a spiritual perspective,faith with out works is dead,and we are justified by works,and not faith alone.
Paul said we do not void out the law through faith,but we establish the law,and the law is spiritual,and the commandment holy,just,and good.
The two greatest commandments love God,and love people,which the ten commandments include those 2 greatest laws,and is spiritual,and anything spiritual we have to obey.
People should understand when Paul is speaking from a fleshy perspective,or before Christ,and a spiritual perspective,by the Spirit,and do not confuse them.
By a fleshy perspective,we are not saved by works,and we are not saved by the righteousness of the law,and by a spiritual perspective,not under the law,and a Spirit led life will not fulfill the desires of the flesh,and work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
If we are led of the Spirit we will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh,so we will obey the law,the spiritual laws,therefore the law cannot touch us for prosecution,not you are not under the law as if it does not apply,for we do not void out the law through faith,but we establish the law by the Spirit.
If the person has not been born of the Spirit of GOD then they ARE under law and If the person Is under law,they would have to fulfill the law perfectly without the help of the WORD of GOD/JESUS before GOD would accept them and GOD counted all of them that didn't fulfil the law perfectly as coming up short.Only JESUS fulfilled the law perfectly(GOD's perfect standard of righteousness)
So then law does exist for those who are not Born again of the Spirit of GOD.If the person has been born of the Spirit of GOD,they are In the body of CHRIST and In HIM there Is no darkness.
So then law does exist for those who are not Born again of the Spirit of GOD.If the person has been born of the Spirit of GOD,they are In the body of CHRIST and In HIM there Is no darkness.
Yes I agree, maybe I misunderstood you, sorry. The attitude of the people was the problem. They tried to obey God as some sort of merit or works on their part for salvation. In doing this they were not part of the covenant of promise give to Abraham. The promises of men are useless, but the promises of God are powerful.
The two covenants are not time related but heart related. Able was new covenant while Cain was old Covenant.
Abraham himself was new covenant but lapsed into old covenant for a time with Hagar. as Paul shows:
Gal 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
Gal 4:23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
Gal 4:24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
Gal 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
So Israel is likened here to Agar and the child of bondage. The works of the flesh. Israel did this here:
Exo 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
Exo 19:6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
God gets them to keep His covenant. which then is this covenant? It can be none other than the covenant of promise made with Abraham. But notice how they respond:
Exo 19:8 And all the people answered together, and said, All that the LORD hath spoken we will do. And Moses returned the words of the people unto the LORD.
They respond like as to Agar by trying to fulfil the promises of God as by their own flesh works. Instead of accepting it as a promise of God for their deliverance.
Thus God gives them next His law that should have awakened them to their need of saving but instead they in their carnal state tried to obey, not realising that the law is bondage as it can not save nor can the carnal heart obey.
It was not Gods covenant that was the problem. it was the response of the people that is the problem. The covenant of God is of promise and the law was not given to add to it as it is written:
Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Gal 3:17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
Gal 3:18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
Gal 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
Gal 3:20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
Gal 3:21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
The law did not add, it was given because the hearts of the Israelite were blind and self righteous. The law was to show them their need of divine power and aid in the war against sin. It did not serve to save but to show they needed saving. God did not give it for them to keep for him. He gave it to show them their sin and thus their need.
But the law did not change the covenant given to Abraham and his seed. No the promise was still the Covenant. God does not make contract with men, for men are unable to make promise to God. The covenant of God is a promise of God to a helpless people. Israel missed the lessons of Abraham and thus the law was added to wake them up to their need.
It is this need that is filled by faith in the promise of God. Abraham got it as it is written:
Rom 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.
Rom 4:18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.
Rom 4:19 And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sara's womb:
Rom 4:20 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;
Rom 4:21 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.
Rom 4:22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
This is not an issue of whether the law should be kept or not. Paul is clear that it should be in Romans 2. The question is how. Is it by faith in Gods promise or is it by carnal works of the law? The answer is clear that Faith in Gods promise is the only way. That is how the Gentiles who were uncircumcised were able to actually keep the law where the Jews failed. they had faith in the promise and when God speaks there is power to do that which is spoken.
The two covenants are not time related but heart related. Able was new covenant while Cain was old Covenant.
Abraham himself was new covenant but lapsed into old covenant for a time with Hagar. as Paul shows:
Gal 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
Gal 4:23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
Gal 4:24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
Gal 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
So Israel is likened here to Agar and the child of bondage. The works of the flesh. Israel did this here:
Exo 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
Exo 19:6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
God gets them to keep His covenant. which then is this covenant? It can be none other than the covenant of promise made with Abraham. But notice how they respond:
Exo 19:8 And all the people answered together, and said, All that the LORD hath spoken we will do. And Moses returned the words of the people unto the LORD.
They respond like as to Agar by trying to fulfil the promises of God as by their own flesh works. Instead of accepting it as a promise of God for their deliverance.
Thus God gives them next His law that should have awakened them to their need of saving but instead they in their carnal state tried to obey, not realising that the law is bondage as it can not save nor can the carnal heart obey.
It was not Gods covenant that was the problem. it was the response of the people that is the problem. The covenant of God is of promise and the law was not given to add to it as it is written:
Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Gal 3:17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
Gal 3:18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
Gal 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
Gal 3:20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
Gal 3:21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
The law did not add, it was given because the hearts of the Israelite were blind and self righteous. The law was to show them their need of divine power and aid in the war against sin. It did not serve to save but to show they needed saving. God did not give it for them to keep for him. He gave it to show them their sin and thus their need.
But the law did not change the covenant given to Abraham and his seed. No the promise was still the Covenant. God does not make contract with men, for men are unable to make promise to God. The covenant of God is a promise of God to a helpless people. Israel missed the lessons of Abraham and thus the law was added to wake them up to their need.
It is this need that is filled by faith in the promise of God. Abraham got it as it is written:
Rom 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.
Rom 4:18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be.
Rom 4:19 And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sara's womb:
Rom 4:20 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;
Rom 4:21 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.
Rom 4:22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
This is not an issue of whether the law should be kept or not. Paul is clear that it should be in Romans 2. The question is how. Is it by faith in Gods promise or is it by carnal works of the law? The answer is clear that Faith in Gods promise is the only way. That is how the Gentiles who were uncircumcised were able to actually keep the law where the Jews failed. they had faith in the promise and when God speaks there is power to do that which is spoken.
It doesn't matter if you are ignorant of the law or not, God will write it on your heart and by nature you will obey or disobey God's calling. God knows our hearts and only he can judge the motives. Being a gentile is not an excuse for disobedience, and plus you have access to the word so ignorance isn't really an excuse either.
"They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts" = They obey the law, And God desires us to obey the law today, (not to be saved or earn salvation) to reveal the principles of love that God has written on our heart, To glorify God and be a wittness for Him.
"They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts" = They obey the law, And God desires us to obey the law today, (not to be saved or earn salvation) to reveal the principles of love that God has written on our heart, To glorify God and be a wittness for Him.
For me it is really simple.
The law condemns the carnal heart because carnal hearts are sinful and the law condemns sin.
Thus the law on stone only serves to condemn all for all are carnal and have sinned. It has no power to save or change the heart. Thus it is like a prison that makes sin exceedingly sinful.
The problem then is not the law but us. Thus salvation does not concern anything but us. To save us form a carnal condition into a spiritual condition. this is done by the promise of God.
Thus as the carnal heart could nto keep the law of God. the Spiritual can not break it. they are opposed to each other.
One is a new creature in Christ by faith in his word. The other is a slave to sin and the law and can not obey it.
Christians have been saved from the sinful condition in Christ we are new and no longer break the law but rather fulfill it and do it. This is the Good news in Christ.
The law condemns the carnal heart because carnal hearts are sinful and the law condemns sin.
Thus the law on stone only serves to condemn all for all are carnal and have sinned. It has no power to save or change the heart. Thus it is like a prison that makes sin exceedingly sinful.
The problem then is not the law but us. Thus salvation does not concern anything but us. To save us form a carnal condition into a spiritual condition. this is done by the promise of God.
Thus as the carnal heart could nto keep the law of God. the Spiritual can not break it. they are opposed to each other.
One is a new creature in Christ by faith in his word. The other is a slave to sin and the law and can not obey it.
Christians have been saved from the sinful condition in Christ we are new and no longer break the law but rather fulfill it and do it. This is the Good news in Christ.
I agree that the Law was perfectly fulfilled by Christ for us, because we can't keep it to be saved.
If the law is gone, and doesn't exist today, than what is condemning me of sin? If i was to stand before the judgement set of God, without Christ, what am i guilty of if the law is not valid for me? If the law is valid then i'm judged as guilty and the penalty for sin is death, (All have sinned and fallen short).
If i stand before the judge and Jesus gives me His righteousness as a gift, is the law still valid or not? Yes but i'm free from the law and not guilty before the law because i'm seen as perfect though Christ.
So what i'm saying is, That the reason why we need Jesus's perfect righteousness and the reason why we needed Jesus to die in our place is because we will all need to stand before the law and be judged. The law has not changed or been removed by Christ but the requirements of it were meet by Christ for us. By faith in this am i saved.
If the law stands today is grace and the gift of Jesus an excuse to make it void and disobey it?
No law = no sin = no need for Christ.
The law points out that we are sinners = death and the need for salvation = Jesus pays the price
The very fact that Jesus had to die is proof that the law can not be changed. If it were simply a matter of removing the law then God would never have given it in the first place. Or at least simply removed it later. But as the law is as eternal as God is Himself so the solution is not to get rid of the law but to get rid of sin/transgression of the law. This is done through Jesus and faith in His ability to change our hearts.
The whole reason God changes our hearts is because the issue is sin, not the law. The law points out sin but cannot Save. Jesus saves from sin. those who are saved do not break the law.
The whole reason God changes our hearts is because the issue is sin, not the law. The law points out sin but cannot Save. Jesus saves from sin. those who are saved do not break the law.
It's gone for those who are members of the body of CHRIST,If the person Is not Born of the Spirit of GOD,then they are condemned already.
Remember,the spirits of just men were made perfect,the flesh has not yet been glorified.
If the person has been born of GOD and they still feel condemned,It's because they are not renewing their minds to the new creation they have become.
If you were born of the Spirit of GOD,you would be perfect.
After we are born of the Spirit of GOD by Grace through Faith,we are members of the body of CHRIST and CHRIST being the vine and HIS members the branches,He provides the nutrients so to speak that produces the fruit and the fruit shows up on the branches,In other words,we establish the law.
Grace doesn't teach a person to want to sin,but rather a desire to do good works.
For we are GOD's workmanship created IN CHRIST JESUS unto good works that was before ordained that we should walk In them.
Like before,the law Is for the unrighteous and GOD only accepts perfection.The law Is GOD's perfect standard of righteousness,but the flesh Is carnal,weak and will be brought Into captivity to sin,Only being a member of the body of CHRIST puts the person In right standing before GOD(I'm talking about the Spirit,a spiritual work)
Once the person has been FIRST born of the Spirit of GOD(a one time event)then present your bodies a living sacrifice,renew your mind.
Your sins were paid for by the blood of JESUS.
We have access to this Grace through FAITH.
Remember,the spirits of just men were made perfect,the flesh has not yet been glorified.
If the person has been born of GOD and they still feel condemned,It's because they are not renewing their minds to the new creation they have become.
If you were born of the Spirit of GOD,you would be perfect.
After we are born of the Spirit of GOD by Grace through Faith,we are members of the body of CHRIST and CHRIST being the vine and HIS members the branches,He provides the nutrients so to speak that produces the fruit and the fruit shows up on the branches,In other words,we establish the law.
Grace doesn't teach a person to want to sin,but rather a desire to do good works.
For we are GOD's workmanship created IN CHRIST JESUS unto good works that was before ordained that we should walk In them.
Like before,the law Is for the unrighteous and GOD only accepts perfection.The law Is GOD's perfect standard of righteousness,but the flesh Is carnal,weak and will be brought Into captivity to sin,Only being a member of the body of CHRIST puts the person In right standing before GOD(I'm talking about the Spirit,a spiritual work)
Once the person has been FIRST born of the Spirit of GOD(a one time event)then present your bodies a living sacrifice,renew your mind.
Your sins were paid for by the blood of JESUS.
We have access to this Grace through FAITH.