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[TMS]

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Neither Peter, James nor Paul said what you're saying. They witnessed that the law was an unbearable yoke and burden, and the pharisees who insisted that gentile Christians must get circumcised and keep the law were troubling them and subverting their souls. Do you seriously think they would have said these things if all it took was love to keep the law?

When the love of Jesus fills you, and the Holy Spirit fills you. Is it a delight to tell people about Jesus, ?
Is it a delight to be honest?
Is it a delight to not steal?
Is it a delight to not take God's name I vain
Is it a delight to not have other gods.

No glory to us because it is the Spirit that does the good.

Rom 8:5-8
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

 

[SabbathBlessing]

Psa 40:8 I delight to do Your will, O my God,
And Your law is within my heart.”

Rom 7: 22 For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man.

 

[Inquisitor]

Do you believe there is a difference between sanctification and justification?
No one is righteous except Christ and salvation is a gift. I agree.
But sanctification by faith is not the same as justification by faith.
Righteousness is Imputed and imparted.

1Co 1:30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
1Th 4:3-4
3 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: 4 That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour;
2Th 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
1Pe 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

Eze 20:12 Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.

Joh 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

Heb 13:12 Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.

Sanctification is still by faith and is a gift but it is not replaced by Justification.

Physical circumcision is the subject of the debate in Acts 15, according to the SDA.

The Jerusalem council met to resolve the issue which generated heated debate.

How do you explain the reply of the apostles to the Gentile churches?

Act 15:20
Instead, we should write and tell them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality,
from the meat of strangled animals, and from blood.

If physical circumcision was what Acts 15 was all about, why did the apostles not simply
just say that the Gentiles do not need to be circumcised.

What is all the fuss about?

Why would the apostles issue a decree to the Gentile churches to abstain from blood.

Abstaining from blood is a ceremonial law according to the SDA.

Why do the apostles subject the Gentile churches to the ceremonial law?

You need to some how explain this baffling reply by the apostles.

The apostles declaration has nothing to do with circumcision.

Can you explain this apparent anomaly in Acts?

 

[Inquisitor]

Psa 40:8 I delight to do Your will, O my God,
And Your law is within my heart.”

Rom 7: 22 For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man.

I also delight in the law of God but I also know that the law, will agitate my fleshly desires.

The law should promote holiness and love but the law does not work that way.

The reason is that the law is aimed at the flesh nature within man.

The law cannot be obeyed in the form it is given, that is in the letter form.

The law is a physical legal code.

We need to be equipped with the Holy Spirit and given the gift of love.

Only then are we able to exert the fruit of the Holy Spirit.

Against the fruit of the Holy Spirit there is no law.

The letter form of the law kills because the letter form condemns.

 

[TMS]

If physical circumcision was what Acts 15 was all about, why did the apostles not simply
just say that the Gentiles do not need to be circumcised.

Paul made it clear that it didn't matter if you are or are not. It is about the heart.
Not sure why it wasn't said in Acts 15 but we know Paul was trying to keep the peace. Wisdom is from God.
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

 

[TMS]

Physical circumcision is the subject of the debate in Acts 15, according to the SDA.

The Jerusalem council met to resolve the issue which generated heated debate.

How do you explain the reply of the apostles to the Gentile churches?

Act 15:20
Instead, we should write and tell them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality,
from the meat of strangled animals, and from blood.

If physical circumcision was what Acts 15 was all about, why did the apostles not simply
just say that the Gentiles do not need to be circumcised.

What is all the fuss about?

Why would the apostles issue a decree to the Gentile churches to abstain from blood.

Abstaining from blood is a ceremonial law according to the SDA.

Why do the apostles subject the Gentile churches to the ceremonial law?

You need to some how explain this baffling reply by the apostles.

The apostles declaration has nothing to do with circumcision.

Can you explain this apparent anomaly in Acts?

Are you ignoring my questions?

 

[stilllearning]

It's obvious what commandments James was referring to. Not in the 10 commandments

Ye shall not respect persons in judgment; but ye shall hear the small as well as the great; ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgment is God's: and the cause that is too hard for you, bring it unto me, and I will hear it. Deuteronomy 1:17​

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But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. James 2:9​

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This is the law James was referring to, ie not in the 10 commandments

Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour. Leviticus 19:15​

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The 10 commandments are a summary or a outline. When you read in Exodus, Leviticus, and Deuteronomy. When the 10 commandments are mentioned they are never isolated when we read following chapters we find that they are part of the bigger picture of the whole law. Which after it is expounded upon God always commands them to keep all his commandments, and judgements, and statues. God considers it all the same. Why if you break the least you break them all.

They are not separate or isolated they are part of the whole. Take for example the verse you quoted when you read the verses above it you see clearly a few of the 10 commandments and how the Lord is showing to keep the outline or summary of the command the details it contains.

Leviticus 19:9-18........
And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not wholly reap the corners of thy field, neither shalt thou gather the gleanings of thy harvest.

10And thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor and stranger: I am the LORD your God.

11Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another.

12And ye shall not swear by my name falsely, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.

13Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning.

14Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the LORD.

15Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

16Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD.

17Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

18Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

Anyway as you read all the law you will find God did like this all throughout he will mention the 10 and then as you read following chapters you will see how he interlocks the summary or the 10 with the whole complete law.

Out of curiosity I did a AI search seeking to see if that is how the Jews see the 10 commandments. Which it came back that they indeed see the 10 commandments as a summary for some of their scholars with others seeing them as the first ten commands of 613. However, Jewish scholars do not see them as separate line items but inclusive to the whole.

So anyway I agree as I find this is the point you are trying to make that the 10 are not separate or a law all unto themselves.

 

[stilllearning]

Physical circumcision is the subject of the debate in Acts 15, according to the SDA.

The Jerusalem council met to resolve the issue which generated heated debate.

How do you explain the reply of the apostles to the Gentile churches?

Act 15:20
Instead, we should write and tell them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality,
from the meat of strangled animals, and from blood.

If physical circumcision was what Acts 15 was all about, why did the apostles not simply
just say that the Gentiles do not need to be circumcised.

What is all the fuss about?

Why would the apostles issue a decree to the Gentile churches to abstain from blood.

Abstaining from blood is a ceremonial law according to the SDA.

Why do the apostles subject the Gentile churches to the ceremonial law?

You need to some how explain this baffling reply by the apostles.

The apostles declaration has nothing to do with circumcision.

Can you explain this apparent anomaly in Acts?

I agree and would also add how can circumcision be given so little respect and other laws elevated. As circumcision was the covenant that Christ would come by as it is the one made between Abraham and God.

Which that was God's covenant to him and in no way was the 10 commandments part of that covenant made by God and Abraham by which Christ would come by way of Abraham.

God clearly points out that the 10 were not made with Abraham, Isaac, or Jacob.

Deuteronomy 5:1-3........ And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them.

2The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.

3The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Out of curiosity I did a AI search seeking to see if that is how the Jews see the 10 commandments. Which it came back that they indeed see the 10 commandments as a summary

That's the way I see it; the 10 summarize the other 603. And then these two summarize the 10,

And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. Deuteronomy 6:5​

Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD. Leviticus 19:18​

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and then the two are summarized by this one

Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. Matthew 7:12​

 

[SabbathBlessing]

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I agree and would also add how can circumcision be given so little respect and other laws elevated. As circumcision was the covenant that Christ would come by as it is the one made between Abraham and God.

Which that was God's covenant to him and in no way was the 10 commandments part of that covenant made by God and Abraham by which Christ would come by way of Abraham.

God clearly points out that the 10 were not made with Abraham, Isaac, or Jacob.

Deuteronomy 5:1-3........ And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them.

2The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.

3The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.

God never made a national covenant until Israel. All other covenants were made with individuals. That was the difference in the covenant.

Abraham kept the Ten Commandments Gen 26:5 like really when would God ever want us to worship other gods, lie or murder. Where there is no sin there is no transgression and Cain knew it was "sin" to murder Abel so he knew the law of thou shalt not murder only found in the Ten Commandments.

 

[SabbathBlessing]

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The 10 commandments are a summary or a outline. When you read in Exodus, Leviticus, and Deuteronomy. When the 10 commandments are mentioned they are never isolated when we read following chapters we find that they are part of the bigger picture of the whole law. Which after it is expounded upon God always commands them to keep all his commandments, and judgements, and statues. God considers it all the same. Why if you break the least you break them all.

They are not separate or isolated they are part of the whole. Take for example the verse you quoted when you read the verses above it you see clearly a few of the 10 commandments and how the Lord is showing to keep the outline or summary of the command the details it contains.

Leviticus 19:9-18........
And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not wholly reap the corners of thy field, neither shalt thou gather the gleanings of thy harvest.

10And thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor and stranger: I am the LORD your God.

11Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another.

12And ye shall not swear by my name falsely, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.

13Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning.

14Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the LORD.

15Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

16Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD.

17Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

18Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

Anyway as you read all the law you will find God did like this all throughout he will mention the 10 and then as you read following chapters you will see how he interlocks the summary or the 10 with the whole complete law.

Out of curiosity I did a AI search seeking to see if that is how the Jews see the 10 commandments. Which it came back that they indeed see the 10 commandments as a summary for some of their scholars with others seeing them as the first ten commands of 613. However, Jewish scholars do not see them as separate line items but inclusive to the whole.

So anyway I agree as I find this is the point you are trying to make that the 10 are not separate or a law all unto themselves.

Repeating laws, does not mean that the Ten Commandments wasn't separated from the laws written by Moses in a book.

Scripture says they were separate covenants

Only the Ten Commandments was the words of the Covenant. It says so plainly.

Exo 34:28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the [a]Ten Commandments.

This is God writing not Moses. Only the Ten Commandments was placed inside the ark of the covenant and after God wrote He added no more to this covenant.

Deut 5:22 “These words the Lord spoke to all your assembly, in the mountain from the midst of the fire, the cloud, and the thick darkness, with a loud voice; and He added no more. And He wrote them on two tablets of stone and gave them to me.

Moses wrote the other laws and placed them beside the ark as a witness against for breaking what was inside God's Ten Commandments. Deut 31:24-26. The law of Moses was added because of transgression, which is breaking God's law 1 John 3:4, the Ten Commandments Rom 7:7James 2:10-12 Mat 5:19-30 Mat 15:3-14 The Ten Commandments started way before Mt Sinai as this is God's commandments and God's people keep His commandments Rev 14:12, they were just written down, spoken by our Savior to the whole nation of Israel which represents His people.

There is no scripture that says all the laws ended at the Cross, the only ones that show ended were the commandments contained in ordinances Col 2:14 Eph 3:15 Heb 9:9-10 which were shadow laws, the fleshy sacrificial system that was always just a placeholder for Christ and His great sacrifice Heb 10:1-22, the blood of goats and sheep could never take away sin, but Christ's blood can cleanse us of all sin and unrighteousness when we repent (change in heart) and turn from sin walking in Christ obeying His commandments though faith and love by His power John 14:15-18

 

[stilllearning]

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God never made a national covenant until Israel. All other covenants were made with individuals. That was the difference in the covenant.

Abraham kept the Ten Commandments Gen 26:5 like really when would God ever want us to worship other gods, lie or murder. Where there is no sin there is no transgression and Cain knew it was "sin" to murder Abel so he knew the law of thou shalt not murder only found in the Ten Commandments.

The whole law is summed up in love the Lord thy God and love your neighbor as yourself. Adam and Eve failed the first as they loved themselves. The first sin in Cain's heart was he did not love his brother. Why sin was lying at the door. It was his lack of love that was the true problem but then again that is always the problem that leads us to take any physical sinful action. Be it lying, murder, theft. and etc.

Abraham kept God's commandments such as get thee up into a land I will show thee, sacrifice your son your only son and etc. This was Abraham keeping the Lord's commandments as he kept what the Lord gave him. As these were in fact commandments.

 

[SabbathBlessing]

The whole law is summed up in love the Lord thy God and love your neighbor as yourself. Adam and Eve failed the first as they loved themselves. The first sin in Cain's heart was he did not love his brother. Why sin was lying at the door. It was his lack of love that was the true problem but then again that is always the problem that leads us to take any physical sinful action. Be it lying, murder, theft. and etc.

Abraham kept God's commandments such as get thee up into a land I will show thee, sacrifice your son your only son and etc. This was Abraham keeping the Lord's commandments as he kept what the Lord gave him. As these were in fact commandments.

The commandments are summed up in Love, but that does not mean the details on how to love is deleted 1 John 5:3

Where there is no law, there is no sin, and it was a sin to murder Abel, because the law of thou shalt not murder was given, only found in the Ten Commandments. The thoughts that lead to murder is exactly what Jesus wants changed, why God's law was written in the heart Heb 8:10 right where sin begins, God wants our inwards parts changed which changes our actions.

The scripture says Abhram kept God's commandments- God identified His commandments right in the Ten

Exo 20:6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments. Abraham sacrificing his son, is not one of God's commandments, it was a command given to one person.

Once God personally defines something, best to allow God to be God, and allow Him to direct our path Pro 3:5-6 as there is no Greater Authority than God.

 

[Inquisitor]

The whole law is summed up in love the Lord thy God and love your neighbor as yourself. Adam and Eve failed the first as they loved themselves. The first sin in Cain's heart was he did not love his brother. Why sin was lying at the door. It was his lack of love that was the true problem but then again that is always the problem that leads us to take any physical sinful action. Be it lying, murder, theft. and etc.

Abraham kept God's commandments such as get thee up into a land I will show thee, sacrifice your son your only son and etc. This was Abraham keeping the Lord's commandments as he kept what the Lord gave him. As these were in fact commandments.

And circumcision was a commandment also.

 

[stilllearning]

Repeating laws, does not mean that the Ten Commandments wasn't separated from the laws written by Moses in a book.

Scripture says they were separate covenants

Only the Ten Commandments was the words of the Covenant. It says so plainly.

Exo 34:28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the [a]Ten Commandments.

This is God writing not Moses. Only the Ten Commandments was placed inside the ark of the covenant and after God wrote He added no more to this covenant.

Deut 5:22 “These words the Lord spoke to all your assembly, in the mountain from the midst of the fire, the cloud, and the thick darkness, with a loud voice; and He added no more. And He wrote them on two tablets of stone and gave them to me.

Moses wrote the other laws and placed them beside the ark as a witness against for breaking what was inside God's Ten Commandments. Deut 31:24-26. The law of Moses was added because of transgression, which is breaking God's law 1 John 3:4, the Ten Commandments Rom 7:7James 2:10-12 Mat 5:19-30 Mat 15:3-14 The Ten Commandments started way before Mt Sinai as this is God's commandments and God's people keep His commandments Rev 14:12, they were just written down, spoken by our Savior to the whole nation of Israel which represents His people.

There is no scripture that says all the laws ended at the Cross, the only ones that show ended were the commandments contained in ordinances Col 2:14 Eph 3:15 Heb 9:9-10 which were shadow laws, the fleshy sacrificial system that was always just a placeholder for Christ and His great sacrifice Heb 10:1-22, the blood of goats and sheep could never take away sin, but Christ's blood can cleanse us of all sin and unrighteousness when we repent (change in heart) and turn from sin walking in Christ obeying His commandments though faith and love by His power John 14:15-18

There is no division between the 10 and all the law.

Deuteronomy 10:30 If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul.

Deuteronomy 31:9-12 And Moses wrote this law, and delivered it unto the priests the sons of Levi, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, and unto all the elders of Israel.

10And Moses commanded them, saying, At the end of every seven years, in the solemnity of the year of release, in the feast of tabernacles,

11When all Israel is come to appear before the LORD thy God in the place which he shall choose, thou shalt read this law before all Israel in their hearing.

12Gather the people together, men, and women, and children, and thy stranger that is within thy gates, that they may hear, and that they may learn, and fear the LORD your God, and observe to do all the words of this law:

Deuteronomy 31:24-26 And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished,

25That Moses commanded the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying,

26Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.

All the law was the covenant and all the law was placed inside the ark of the covenant as witness.

So anyway please do have the last word and I will consider all said between us on this matter. As I do always appreciate your respectful manner even in disagreement so please do have a wonderful eve

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Only the Ten Commandments was the words of the Covenant. It says so plainly.

It says plainly in the previous verse that God commanded Moses to write the previously spoken words on which the covenant was established. Moses wrote them, not God

And the LORD said to Moses, Write to yourself these words, for upon these words I have established to you a covenant, and to Israel. Exodus 34:27​

 

[SabbathBlessing]

There is no division between the 10 and all the law.

Deuteronomy 10:30 If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul.

Deuteronomy 31:9-12 And Moses wrote this law, and delivered it unto the priests the sons of Levi, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, and unto all the elders of Israel.

10And Moses commanded them, saying, At the end of every seven years, in the solemnity of the year of release, in the feast of tabernacles,

11When all Israel is come to appear before the LORD thy God in the place which he shall choose, thou shalt read this law before all Israel in their hearing.

12Gather the people together, men, and women, and children, and thy stranger that is within thy gates, that they may hear, and that they may learn, and fear the LORD your God, and observe to do all the words of this law:

Deuteronomy 31:24-26 And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished,

25That Moses commanded the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying,

26Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.

All the law was the covenant and all the law was placed inside the ark of the covenant as witness.

So anyway please do have the last word and I will consider all said between us on this matter. As I do always appreciate your respectful manner even in disagreement so please do have a wonderful eve

This is the book of the law that was placed beside the ark of the covenant written by Moses on paper in a book.

God didn't write in a book , He wrote on stone Exo 31:18 Exo 32:16 Deut 4:13 Exo 34:28 and only the Ten Commandments was placed inside the ark of the covenant Exo 40:20 and God wrote the Ten Commandments - He added no more Deut 5:22. It plainly says the words of the covenant were the Ten Commandments Exo 34:28 there were already keeping them before God wrote them on stone. You can see this in various parts of the bible from Gen through Exodus. The law of Moses was added because of transgression, its not the same law.

I do hope you can see the difference between God our Creator writing with His own finger vs. and man i.e. the creation handwriting.

Guess we will have to agree to disagree I hope you have a good night too, appreciate the kind thoughts and wish you well.

 

[SaysWhat]

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The 10 commandments are a summary or a outline. When you read in Exodus, Leviticus, and Deuteronomy. When the 10 commandments are mentioned they are never isolated when we read following chapters we find that they are part of the bigger picture of the whole law. Which after it is expounded upon God always commands them to keep all his commandments, and judgements, and statues. God considers it all the same. Why if you break the least you break them all.

They are not separate or isolated they are part of the whole. Take for example the verse you quoted when you read the verses above it you see clearly a few of the 10 commandments and how the Lord is showing to keep the outline or summary of the command the details it contains.

Leviticus 19:9-18........
And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not wholly reap the corners of thy field, neither shalt thou gather the gleanings of thy harvest.

10And thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor and stranger: I am the LORD your God.

11Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another.

12And ye shall not swear by my name falsely, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.

13Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning.

14Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the LORD.

15Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

16Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD.

17Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

18Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

Anyway as you read all the law you will find God did like this all throughout he will mention the 10 and then as you read following chapters you will see how he interlocks the summary or the 10 with the whole complete law.

Out of curiosity I did a AI search seeking to see if that is how the Jews see the 10 commandments. Which it came back that they indeed see the 10 commandments as a summary for some of their scholars with others seeing them as the first ten commands of 613. However, Jewish scholars do not see them as separate line items but inclusive to the whole.

So anyway I agree as I find this is the point you are trying to make that the 10 are not separate or a law all unto themselves.

Jesus represented more than just the 10 as well. Part of the whole commandment is to put to death anyone who curses their parents. Can't pick and choose what parts to honor.

He was making a point just as you have about the same thing. The tradition they had didn't include all of the commandment. Which was to put to death law breakers.

Matthew 15
3 Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition?

4 For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’ and ‘Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.’

 

[SabbathBlessing]

There is no curses in the Ten Commandments- see Exodus 20 It’s God’s perfect law converting the soul written by our perfect Savior.

The curses were in the book of the law, written by Moses set outside the ark as a witness against for breaking what was inside - God’s Ten Commandments Deut 31:24-26. Its not a matter of picking and choosing its a matter of understanding the differences. Jesus came to take away the curse, but in order to accept His gift, we too must die of sin and be reborn in Christ keeping His commandments through faith and love by our cooperation with His power John 14:15-18

 

[SabbathBlessing]

That's the way I see it; the 10 summarize the other 603. And then these two summarize the 10,

And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. Deuteronomy 6:5​

Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD. Leviticus 19:18​

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and then the two are summarized by this one

Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. Matthew 7:12​

This chapter is God reviewing both the Ten Commandments and the law of Moses.

Exo 34: 27 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Write these words, for according to the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.

Moses wrote the book of the law
24 So it was, when Moses had completed writing the words of this law in a book, when they were finished, 25 that Moses commanded the Levites, who bore the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying: 26 “Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there as a witness against you;

God wrote the Ten Commandments as it plainly states

” 28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He (God) wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the [d]Ten Commandments.

Deut 4:13 So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He (God)wrote them on two tablets of stone.


Exo 31:18 18 And when He had made an end of speaking with him on Mount Sinai, He gave Moses two tablets of the Testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God.

Sad, just shows how far man has gotten away from God’s law, they are not even taught in church that God is the one writing His holy and enteral commandments. It’s the work of God, not man,

Exo 32:16 16 Now the tablets were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God engraved on the tablets.