The secret of the PORTER.

Cobus · Aug 6, 2011

I am no prophet, or not that I know of, but I do have amessage today, you decide for yourself if this is from God... One thing for sure, I am saying and teaching NOTHING new... This is especially for two people I love but I am not yet allowed to call them brother of sister... May the Lord unite us, AMEN!!

The secret of the PORTER!

This is what my Lord gave me this morning. It is a message of Love from Him to you. It is not a message to prove who is right and who is wrong, it is a message of Love and Truth from God to you, through me!

Not me nor you are right, God is right! Neither you nor I are good, God is GOOD, but He is sharing HIS GOOD with us, so that we can be as GOOD as He is.

How Good is God, He is better than what Jesus was when Jesus was, in the role of the sacrifice… Jesus as Son of MAN… He is as good as Jesus was before He came to be the Son if MAN. Before he came to the earth, Jesus had more GLORY than when He was on the earth as the LAMB! God is also as good as Jesus is AFTER He was resurrected.

Let me explain… When Jesus was born as the son of MAN from Mary’s womb God had to decrease the GLORY of Jesus. God cannot put all HIS glory into a man. NOT EVEN INTO JESUS, if that MAN has to experience an absence of the HOLY SPIRIT A FORSAKEN OF THE HOLY SPIRIT!

Jesus said in John 17:5… Father the hour has come, glorify THY SON (not the Son of man) with thyself THE GLORY which I had before the earth was. Now here is the revelation you should not miss… Jesus had a BIGGER GLORY before he was made a MAN. And that EXACT same lever of GLORIFICATION was restored in HIM AFTER HE WAS RESURRECTED…

Jesus the Son of MAN… completed His work on the cross, but Jesus, THE MESSIAH FROM GOD IS NOT FINISHED YET!! The Son of GOD IS NOT FINISHED YET!!!! And this JESUS HAS MORE POWER THAN THE ONE ON THE CROSS!!!! THIS JESEUS IS NEVER GOING TO SAY >>>ELI ELI LAMA SBACHTANI>>> (MY GOD MY GOD WHY HAVE THOU FORSAKEN ME) Again!!! Because the Holy Spirit WILL NEVER LEAVE HIM AGAIN HE WOULD NOT HAVE TOO….

When Jesus gave up the ghost, the Holy Spirit had to leave the body of Christ; every person that is reborn from God is now that Body. And the HOLY SPIRIT will NEVER LEAVE THAT BODY!!

When Jesus returned AFTER resurrection He was restored to the SAME BODY WE ARE AFTER WE ARE REBORN!!! Do you have any idea how glorified such a person are? And YES there are people like that here on the earth right now!!!

They are EXACTLY to the same GLORY That Jesus was when HE was here AFTER HIS RESURRECTION. Those are the people that we CANNOT see except if we are also in the SAME GLORIOUS STATE OR WHEN GOD REVEALS THEM TO US… That state we enter is called rebirth! Called Baptism of Holy Spirit, called indwelling of Holy Spirit, called filling of Holy Spirit. Called MOVED by Holy spirit. CALLED HOLY MAN. .. Not saint…Beyond saint.

A SAINT is still LEAD by the Holy Spirit, not MOVED. A SAINT still has the spirit of a SON OF MAN in Him. The Son of GOD is the NEW MAN ALL SAINTS BECOME WHEN THEY ARE BAPTIZED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT! Or when they receive their REBIRTH FROM GOD...Made alive by GOD! A Saint DIED OFF ALL SIN (ALL SIN IN THE OLD MAN)

A SAINT ALSO COMPLETED HIS CROSSWORK, BUT THE WORK OF THE SON OF GOD WILL ONLY BE COMPLETED WHEN THAT SAINT IS RESURRECTED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT….A (THE) SON OF GOD!!!
A saint is not THE son or A son of God, but the SAINT PERFECTED...The NEW matuer perfect man in the SAINT IS THE SON OF GOD... CHRIST JESUS REBORN INTO THE JUST GLORIFIED SAINT.

God says this…. If I convince the WORLD of sin, my Holy Spirit is not in the people of the world! He only COMMUNICATES WITH THEM ON THEIR CONSCIENCE…. Who do you think is the PORTER that opens the DOOR to the sheepfold in John 10:3? And where do you think that DOOR IS RIGHT NOW FOR YOU TO ENTER INTO the sheepfold? Please answer these two questions to yourselves…

It will clearly show where you are at right now with your walk with God… LOOK: Walk with God, not walk IN GOD!When we become saints, we walk with God, when we are perfected we walk IN GOD, and JESUS LIVES IN US!

The answers: the PORTER is your conscience… The DOOR TO THE SHEEP FOLD IS JESUS, and He wants you to get a clear consciece so that you can enter. And He wants to come PAST YOUR CONSCIENCE, SO that He can ENTER INTO YOU!!!

But He can only go beyond if the Holy Spirit does not find sin in the conscience. So as long as your heart (conscience) convicts you JESUS cannot enter, because you cannot enter. Sin (your dirty conscience) does not allow you too.It works both ways.. Jesus says so in John 17. Him in me and me in HIM! So we swop places.

A Saint is only a person that stopped sinning, but HIS PORTER CAN NOW LET HIM INTO JESUS, AND JESUS CAN now enter into him, to make him perfect. He can RECEIVE THE SON OF GOD NOW AND GOD WILL ACCEPT HIM ALSO...without spot or wrinkle!!

Strangelove · Aug 6, 2011

So...?...? Whats the message exactly?

zone · Aug 6, 2011

Cobus said:

This is what my Lord gave me this morning. It is a message of Love from Him to you. It is not a message to prove who is right and who is wrong, it is a message of Love and Truth from God to you, through me!

Not me nor you are right, God is right! Neither you nor I are good, God is GOOD, but He is sharing HIS GOOD with us, so that we can be as GOOD as He is.

How Good is God, He is better than what Jesus was when Jesus was, in the role of the sacrifice… Jesus as Son of MAN… He is as good as Jesus was before He came to be the Son if MAN. Before he came to the earth, Jesus had more GLORY than when He was on the earth as the LAMB! God is also as good as Jesus is AFTER He was resurrected.

Let me explain… When Jesus was born as the son of MAN from Mary’s womb God had to decrease the GLORY of Jesus. God cannot put all HIS glory into a man. NOT EVEN INTO JESUS, if that MAN has to experience an absence of the HOLY SPIRIT A FORSAKEN OF THE HOLY SPIRIT!

Jesus said in John 17:5… Father the hour has come, glorify THY SON (not the Son of man) with thyself THE GLORY which I had before the earth was. Now here is the revelation you should not miss… Jesus had a BIGGER GLORY before he was made a MAN. And that EXACT same lever of GLORIFICATION was restored in HIM AFTER HE WAS RESURRECTED…

Jesus the Son of MAN… completed His work on the cross, but Jesus, THE MESSIAH FROM GOD IS NOT FINISHED YET!! The Son of GOD IS NOT FINISHED YET!!!! And this JESUS HAS MORE POWER THAN THE ONE ON THE CROSS!!!! THIS JESEUS IS NEVER GOING TO SAY >>>ELI ELI LAMA SBACHTANI>>> (MY GOD MY GOD WHY HAVE THOU FORSAKEN ME) Again!!! Because the Holy Spirit WILL NEVER LEAVE HIM AGAIN HE WOULD NOT HAVE TOO….

When Jesus gave up the ghost, the Holy Spirit had to leave the body of Christ; every person that is reborn from God is now that Body. And the HOLY SPIRIT will NEVER LEAVE THAT BODY!!

When Jesus returned AFTER resurrection He was restored to the SAME BODY WE ARE AFTER WE ARE REBORN!!! Do you have any idea how glorified such a person are? And YES there are people like that here on the earth right now!!!

They are EXACTLY to the same GLORY That Jesus was when HE was here AFTER HIS RESURRECTION. Those are the people that we CANNOT see except if we are also in the SAME GLORIOUS STATE OR WHEN GOD REVEALS THEM TO US… That state we enter is called rebirth! Called Baptism of Holy Spirit, called indwelling of Holy Spirit, called filling of Holy Spirit. Called MOVED by Holy spirit. CALLED HOLY MAN. .. Not saint…Beyond saint.

A SAINT is still LEAD by the Holy Spirit, not MOVED. A SAINT still has the spirit of a SON OF MAN in Him. The Son of GOD is the NEW MAN ALL SAINTS BECOME WHEN THEY ARE BAPTIZED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT! Or when they receive their REBIRTH FROM GOD...Made alive by GOD! A Saint DIED OFF ALL SIN (ALL SIN IN THE OLD MAN)

A SAINT ALSO COMPLETED HIS CROSSWORK, BUT THE WORK OF THE SON OF GOD WILL ONLY BE COMPLETED WHEN THAT SAINT IS RESURRECTED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT….A (THE) SON OF GOD!!!
A saint is not THE son or A son of God, but the SAINT PERFECTED...The NEW matuer perfect man in the SAINT IS THE SON OF GOD... CHRIST JESUS REBORN INTO THE JUST GLORIFIED SAINT.

God says this…. If I convince the WORLD of sin, my Holy Spirit is not in the people of the world! He only COMMUNICATES WITH THEM ON THEIR CONSCIENCE…. Who do you think is the PORTER that opens the DOOR to the sheepfold in John 10:3? And where do you think that DOOR IS RIGHT NOW FOR YOU TO ENTER INTO the sheepfold? Please answer these two questions to yourselves…

It will clearly show where you are at right now with your walk with God… LOOK: Walk with God, not walk IN GOD!When we become saints, we walk with God, when we are perfected we walk IN GOD, and JESUS LIVES IN US!

The answers: the PORTER is your conscience… The DOOR TO THE SHEEP FOLD IS JESUS, and He wants you to get a clear consciece so that you can enter. And He wants to come PAST YOUR CONSCIENCE, SO that He can ENTER INTO YOU!!!

But He can only go beyond if the Holy Spirit does not find sin in the conscience. So as long as your heart (conscience) convicts you JESUS cannot enter, because you cannot enter. Sin (your dirty conscience) does not allow you too.It works both ways.. Jesus says so in John 17. Him in me and me in HIM! So we swop places.

A Saint is only a person that stopped sinning, but HIS PORTER CAN NOW LET HIM INTO JESUS, AND JESUS CAN now enter into him, to make him perfect. He can RECEIVE THE SON OF GOD NOW AND GOD WILL ACCEPT HIM ALSO...without spot or wrinkle!!

God DID NOT give you that message. you might think He did because you opened your Bible.
if you want to post your ideas, just do it and we can discuss.
quit saying God told you this and that....that's your problem. why don't you just read WHAT HE ALREADY SAID.
because God would NEVER give you the message you posted.

Colossians 2:9
For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form

STOP with the pantheism or Manifest sons of God teaching Cobus. its awful.

Strangelove · Aug 6, 2011

Now we got peeps who admit they dont even have the Holy Spirit dishing out prophecies??

what the....?....?

4runner · Aug 6, 2011

zone said:

You have no idea what God would or would not tell someone. You dont even know Him.

AnandaHya · Aug 6, 2011

sin is more then a dirty conscience, it is disobedience to God's will for yourself and this world. the power of sin is the Law... I'm glad you at least no longer post that you are from Satan.

here are some Bible verses you should reread perhaps?

From God to Cain before he murdered his brother:

Genesis 4:7
If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it.”

Ezekiel 33:13-15
New King James Version (NKJV)
13 When I say to the righteous that he shall surely live, but he trusts in his own righteousness and commits iniquity, none of his righteous works shall be remembered; but because of the iniquity that he has committed, he shall die. 14 Again, when I say to the wicked, ‘You shall surely die,’ if he turns from his sin and does what is lawful and right, 15 if the wicked restores the pledge, gives back what he has stolen, and walks in the statutes of life without committing iniquity, he shall surely live; he shall not die.

1 John 3:4
[ Sin and the Child of God ] Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.

1 Corinthians 15:55-57
New King James Version (NKJV)
55 “ O Death, where is your sting?[a]
O Hades, where is your victory?”

56 The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

don't listen to lies, continue reading your Bible and seek fellowship of the saints nearby if you can find a good and Christ centered church with an annointed pastor or teacher, that would be good. Hope your wife is doing well.

May you find peace in the Lord's truth and rest in His love.

zone · Aug 6, 2011

John 10
I Am the Good Shepherd
1“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber. 2But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3To him the gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. 5A stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.” 6This figure of speech Jesus used with them, but they did not understand what he was saying to them.

7So Jesus again said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. 8All who came before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not listen to them. 9I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture. 10The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly. 11I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. 12He who is a hired hand and not a shepherd, who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees, and the wolf snatches them and scatters them. 13He flees because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep. 14I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me, 15just as the Father knows me and I know the Father; and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd. 17For this reason the Father loves me, because I lay down my life that I may take it up again. 18No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from my Father.”

19There was again a division among the Jews because of these words. 20Many of them said, “He has a demon, and is insane; why listen to him?” 21Others said, “These are not the words of one who is oppressed by a demon. Can a demon open the eyes of the blind?”

the Porter:

To him the gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out (ESV)

To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. (KJV)

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this parable or story is part of a series of illustrative lessons Jesus taught the israelites and Pharisees and Scribes.
His entire Ministry was, as He said, to the lost sheep of Israel. He was born within what we could call "israel", His travels (with some notable exceptions) were within Israel, and His teachings and language was for them (though we know He purposed from the foundation of the world to bring gentiles into the Church - Eph).

this passage is no exception.

to summarize:

Jesus is the Good Shepherd, The Porter, and The Door to the sheepfold.
He is all 3.

The Good Shepherd we all understand.
The Porter was a Guard who slept overnight outside the pen, often right on the sill of the Door to make certain no thieves came that way. The Porter also kept watch round the walls.
Jesus is the Porter.
Jesus is also The Door, or The Gate.

The Good Shepherd in this illustration (as actually happens in countries where shepherding is still practiced this way) goes into the fold where the sheep of all the flock owners have been gathered for safety through the night.
he goes into the midst of them and calls out to HIS OWN.
His own recognize His voice and begin to make their wayto Him through the huge mass of sheep within the fold or pen in which they were held overnight.
He lifts them up and carries or walks with them as they leave that fold and head out for the pasture.
as He said He is the Door, or Gate, and the sheep can go in and out and find pasture.

they are safe with Him. they are Hios, and saved, and they may come in and go out and lie down in safety.

~

Jesus tells the Pharisees and rejecting jews in the next part of the confrontation that THEY DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT HE SAYS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT HIS SHEEP:

I and the Father Are One
22At that time the Feast of Dedication took place at Jerusalem. It was winter, 23and Jesus was walking in the temple, in the colonnade of Solomon. 24So the Jews gathered around him and said to him, “How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly.” 25Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father’s name bear witness about me, 26but you do not believe because you are not part of my flock. 27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. 28I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29My Father, who has given them to me,a is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. 30I and the Father are one.”

31The Jews picked up stones again to stone him. 32Jesus answered them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you going to stone me?” 33The Jews answered him, “It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God.” 34Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods’? 35If he called them gods to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be broken— 36do you say of him whom the Father consecrated and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’? 37If I am not doing the works of my Father, then do not believe me; 38but if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me and I am in the Father.” 39Again they sought to arrest him, but he escaped from their hands.

40He went away again across the Jordan to the place where John had been baptizing at first, and there he remained. 41And many came to him. And they said, “John did no sign, but everything that John said about this man was true.” 42And many believed in him there.

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lastly, we see here the beautiful promise from Him spoken even within His ministry to Israel, that He would be bringing other sheep not of that fold (Israel) - GENTILES into His flock, and they would be one flock...with One Shepherd.

14I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me, 15just as the Father knows me and I know the Father; and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd.

whether jew or gentile, in Christ we have One Shepherd, One Porter, One Door.
and we are safe. we listen to His voice.

The Good Shepherd won't lose one. He'll leave the 99 safely, and go for the one...

4runner · Aug 6, 2011

zone said:

Except for Judas huh??????????

AnandaHya · Aug 6, 2011

Romans 8

Free from Indwelling Sin

1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus,[a] who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.

Oh and I forgot this one about two different laws: one is the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus and on is the law of sin and death.

Judas was not one of Jesus' sheep He knew when He chose that one would be a snake, a son of peredition. he was a wolf in sheep's clothing and he is one of those that Jesus says that will say in the last days "Lord did I not cast out demons in Your name" and He will say depart I never Knew you.

Luke 22:3
Then Satan entered Judas, surnamed Iscariot, who was numbered among the twelve.

John 13:2
And supper being ended, the devil having already put it into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon’s son, to betray Him,

Jesus chose Judas so that scripture might be fulfilled that said He would be betrayed by one who He supped with and called friend. David spoke of it in his prophecies of the Messiah and the Book of Acts makes reference of it in the first chapter and Judas in NOT numbered any longer among the twelve but Mathias has taken his place as the twelfth apostle.

AnandaHya · Aug 6, 2011

zone said:

Yes isn't it beautiful?

I especially like this prayer He says for His disciples in the garden:

John 17
9 “I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours. 10 And all Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine, and I am glorified in them. 11 Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are. 12 While I was with them in the world,[c] I kept them in Your name. Those whom You gave Me I have kept;[d] and none of them is lost except the son of perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled. 13 But now I come to You, and these things I speak in the world, that they may have My joy fulfilled in themselves. 14 I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 15 I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one. 16 They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth. 18 As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world.

AtonedFor · Aug 8, 2011

Cobus,

Many thanks for sharing your experience with us.
May the Lord bless you abundantly.
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