The Security Of The Believer

[Everlasting-Grace]

So you don’t believe that the finished work of the Cross alone is enough to provide salvation?

Why do you constantly switch topics and contexts? Continue with the primary topic you began many pages ago. You‘ve repeatedly said that we are saved by our good works (or something similar). You have now completely shifted the topic of discussion.. And you are unable to respond to the fundamental question of how someone must be saved.

round and round and round they go,

Its keeps people from focusing on whats in the center

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

It seems, @Bible_Highlighter, that you are conflating the subject of salvation with the subject of condemnation.

He mixes justification with sanctification also

 

[uncle_mike]

A brain that thinks worldly not Godly. You wont last long here with that kind of attitude.

Are You threatening me?

 

[uncle_mike]

After I showed how Paul made a distinction between the Old Law and the Law of Christ. Now that it is apparent if a church preaches they're the same the church would have the worldly mind, not me. You come at me that I don't have a Godly mind when I am the one having to point out the truth to You. Then You say I won't last long because of attitude.

What are You really trying to say to me? I proved You are wrong and now You want to flip this back onto me with a threat I won't last long here with my attitude. So, proving You wrong and saying churches that preach wrong is me having an attitude?

I suggest You clear Your intentions with me now.

 

[uncle_mike]

Are You telling me this "site" is allowing You to threaten people and they're doing nothing? It's because You pay the site. That can be looked into.

 

[uncle_mike]

I think You're all mouth and been getting away with things because You pay to play. Well, let's see if Your mouth can cash this check You just wrote.

 

[selahsays]

I think You're all mouth and been getting away with things because You pay to play. Well, let's see if Your mouth can cash this check You just wrote.

Aww, why so mean?

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

and

Paul's words, Galatians 6:2 Bear the griefs of one another, and so fulfill the law of Christ.

Paul tells us forget the Old Law in Romans but in Galatians instructs us to fulfill the Law of Christ. So the Old Law and the Laws of Christ "are not" the same.

Your stuck in catholicism.

God did not free us from the law to put us back under a different law.

especially when obeying the old law could not save us or keep us saved

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

Like I said, it takes the infilling of the Holy Spirit to know what I just presented to You. We are under the Law of Christ, whether You Grace people like it or not.

I am under grace.

Thats what God said. Us grace people?

Wow you are quite proud

 

[uncle_mike]

Aww, why so mean? View attachment 259156

Is that as mean as me providing Verses and then being accused of having an ungodly mind?

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

And I am a Grace person because I was saved by Grace. But now that I am saved, I am under the Law of Christ. This means to obey the commandments of Christ.

Paul calls those who think they started by the spirit (grace) and have to perfect it in the flesh (works) fools

just saying

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

What attitude? What do You call churches that preaches wrong idealism over Biblical fact?

When you start calling people or things names.

You have an attitude. You have stopped discussing the word. and proclaimed yourself superior..

 

[uncle_mike]

I am under grace.

Thats what God said. Us grace people?

Wow you are quite proud

You are saved by Grace. Nowhere does the Bible claim it is a condition but an action by what God did at the Cross.
As believers in Christ, we are “justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus”

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

After I showed how Paul made a distinction between the Old Law and the Law of Christ. Now that it is apparent if a church preaches they're the same the church would have the worldly mind, not me. You come at me that I don't have a Godly mind when I am the one having to point out the truth to You. Then You say I won't last long because of attitude.

What are You really trying to say to me? I proved You are wrong and now You want to flip this back onto me with a threat I won't last long here with my attitude. So, proving You wrong and saying churches that preach wrong is me having an attitude?

I suggest You clear Your intentions with me now.

You have not proven anything my friend..

You need to take a step back for a minute.. Your pride is showing

 

[uncle_mike]

When you start calling people or things names.

You have an attitude. You have stopped discussing the word. and proclaimed yourself superior..

What do You call a church preaching lies? Someone trying?

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

You are saved by Grace. Nowhere does the Bible claim it is a condition but an action by what God did at the Cross.
As believers in Christ, we are “justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus”

Yes.

And I will continue to be saved by grace.

Because I am in Christ..

 

[uncle_mike]

You have not proven anything my friend..

You need to take a step back for a minute.. Your pride is showing

I showed Paul said we are under the Law of Christ, which has nothing to do with the Mosaic Law.

 

[uncle_mike]

Yes.

And I will continue to be saved by grace.

Because I am in Christ..

You only get saved one time.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

I think You're all mouth and been getting away with things because You pay to play. Well, let's see if Your mouth can cash this check You just wrote.

Um.

I do not pay to play. nor do I play to be saved.

My mouth.. Dude you are getting out there. what is your problem?

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

I showed Paul said we are under the Law of Christ, which has nothing to do with the Mosaic Law.

Yes.

I learn to produce fruit under the law of Christ

That law WILL NOT SAVE ME.. nor will it KEEP ME SAVED (as you are saying it will.

Do you listen?

If you think you must be obedient to be SAVED.. Your putting people under THE LAW OF MOSES.

Because God said there are two ways to heaven

the law of Moses (obey every word)

the cross.

there is no other way