The State of Israel - Authentic or Counterfeit?

[pete9]

So this is what I meant when I first responded. This comment "(for those with reading comprehension problems)" is rude and unnecessary. You asked peoples opinions,but you dont want anyones opinion,you just want to state your own. Anyone who disagrees you will get nasty with.So why have a poll when you only care to air your own opinion?

But I guess the allegation that I did not try to be truthful and accurate was not rude and absolutely necessary. And the allegation that I didn't read by Bible the way God wants, that was good and friendly too, and nice that the authority of God (and His disappointment, I suppose) was invoked to criticize me. I think the allegations (repeated) that I did not follow the ways of Jesus by turning my back on the Apostle Paul and raising up the "authority" of the new-fangled Hebrew Roots movement is rude. I think a double standard is rude. And so we have our own thoughts. I think that stuff they said was more nasty than anything I have said. Why did I take a poll? It wasn't for everyone else to air their opinions and for me to accept the majority vote. The path is narrow, the way broad to perdition. It was to see how many people believe this or that, so I can have some stats on what is going on in the world. I may not know what is going on the world from these stats, but I definitely know what is going on with this site..

 

[dcontroversal]

Hooo Boy,match lit! Here we go! Wheres the popcorn?

 

[sevenseas]

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."

I criticized Judaizing as per Galatians and was basically told that I'm an anti-semite. That propaganda is getting old. I guess I am also "homophobic"..

sad. your op has nothing to do with judaizing

smoke and mirrors will not work so go along now and study up

 

[pete9]

sad. your op has nothing to do with judaizing

smoke and mirrors will not work so go along now and study up

My point is that the new-fangled Judaizing movement has taken over everyone who tunes in too deeply to "Christian" media. And that it is clearly run by that state which wants our blood, money, and adoration. I guess you fell for it.

 

[sevenseas]

"pete9, If you have read and studied your Bible the way God wants you to, you would know the answers to the above questions."

I think extra butter on the popcorn for having to deal with someone who thinks he speaks for God, as in I study the Bible the way God wants me to and if you bow down before me and agree with me, I will share all my special knowledge with you

gag

goes on about Christian media, yet he is spouting anti Jewish media like a geyser

 

[dcontroversal]

The following truths apply....

a. Jesus will sit on the throne of his father David
b. Israel will be called back into the land before the end of the age
c. Israel has been momentarily cut off so salvation can come to the Gentiles
d. Israel will repopulate the waste cities of the planet after the end of the age
e. In Christ Israel and Gentiles have been grafted in under one banner
f. Jesus primarily rises from his throne to defend his people and his nation Israel
g. Israel/Jerusalem will be the world capitol and nation during the millennial reign of Christ from the throne of David
h. Once a year ALL nations and people will be required to appear before the Lord and pay homage or suffer
I. Jesus will rule with a rod of iron from Israel
j. ETC.........

 

[pete9]

ever since you showed up, you have demonstrated an immaturity to interact with people here

you showed up EXPECTING people to side with you and clearly you dislike that we think for ourselves

according to YOUR poll, only 2 people agree with you and I haven't even voted but I would be #10 who disagree if I did vote

we are not obligated to vote so don't get upset about that

try to be truthful is an accurate statement for which I make no apology. you are attempting to steer the conversation and do so, by saying



so go do some research so that you do not need a shofar blown in your ear to wake you up

You are mistaken. I did not expect anyone to side with me. If you'll look about, you see that I came and started a thread on the mark of the beast. I think if you read that thread carefully, you'll be able to figure out what exactly I am thinking. Maturity, in my opinion, is not appeasing the majority by conforming to their conformist views which just happen to be what is repeated daily ad nauseum on the mainstream media. Which I think is funny in consideration of your statement that "you think for yourselves..." As you can see from my other threads, I don't mind standing alone. Others take comfort in numbers..

 

[notbythesword]

Even without scripture, there is plenty of evidence proving Jewish settlements in the land. The Jewish-Roman wars prove the existence of a Jewish people who tried to rise up against a foreign occupying superpower that was Rome. The outcome of this uprising in Judea and surrounding territories by the Jews did not end well. Many of them were scattered abroad and put into slavery after the Roman victories. This does not mean that the land is not still theirs though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish%E2%80%93Roman_wars

I voted authentic.

 

[kaylagrl]

But I guess the allegation that I did not try to be truthful and accurate was not rude and absolutely necessary. And the allegation that I didn't read by Bible the way God wants, that was good and friendly too, and nice that the authority of God (and His disappointment, I suppose) was invoked to criticize me. I think the allegations (repeated) that I did not follow the ways of Jesus by turning my back on the Apostle Paul and raising up the "authority" of the new-fangled Hebrew Roots movement is rude. I think a double standard is rude. And so we have our own thoughts. I think that stuff they said was more nasty than anything I have said. Why did I take a poll? It wasn't for everyone else to air their opinions and for me to accept the majority vote. The path is narrow, the way broad to perdition. It was to see how many people believe this or that, so I can have some stats on what is going on in the world. I may not know what is going on the world from these stats, but I definitely know what is going on with this site..

Why?! Why do you care whats going on with this site. People are allowed to hold whatever opinion they wish. Polls are not for judging people. You have an opinion,you gave it. Why do you ask what others think? Very odd.Just put your opinion out there and say any other is wrong.Dont put up an OP like you want honest discussion when you dont. You want to bulldoze everyone that doesn't agree with you. You have an agenda and its so annoying when newbies come here and right off begin screaming and yelling at other posters that they dont even know. Cant even take the time to get to know people. smh Im so over these type of posters. I called it the minute I read the OP.

 

[sevenseas]

You are mistaken. I did not expect anyone to side with me. If you'll look about, you see that I came and started a thread on the mark of the beast. I think if you read that thread carefully, you'll be able to figure out what exactly I am thinking. Maturity, in my opinion, is not appeasing the majority by conforming to their conformist views which just happen to be what is repeated daily ad nauseum on the mainstream media. Which I think is funny in consideration of your statement that "you think for yourselves..." As you can see from my other threads, I don't mind standing alone. Others take comfort in numbers..

yes

I am always weary of those who begin their life here with one of the most contentious things on a Christian forum and then run amuck and tell us all we need to be just like them

call 911


Christians take comfort in the truth and if you actually knew the scriptures? you would know we are not to walk alone. that creates error and people who refuse instruction and demand to be the authority every place they go

I have nothing more to say but I am sure others will be pleased to exchange your errors for the truth and as far as your thoughts go, you make them plain enough so we don't have to wait for 2 months to know how bad off your Bible study is

 

[KJV1611]

Uh, the poll is an asking of opinions. I want a vote to see where the people stand on the issue. Yeah, I am suspicious due to a variety of reasons. I didn't say that I was clueless and wanted others to instruct me. Go ahead and vote, help out with the stats.

You will find the Christian Zionist Jew worshippers here very intolerant of any bad being spoken against those wicked people in Israel... it's a cult.

 

[kaylagrl]

You are mistaken. I did not expect anyone to side with me. If you'll look about, you see that I came and started a thread on the mark of the beast. I think if you read that thread carefully, you'll be able to figure out what exactly I am thinking. Maturity, in my opinion, is not appeasing the majority by conforming to their conformist views which just happen to be what is repeated daily ad nauseum on the mainstream media. Which I think is funny in consideration of your statement that "you think for yourselves..." As you can see from my other threads, I don't mind standing alone. Others take comfort in numbers..

"Others take comfort in numbers" Uh huh we know,you're the only one with the truth. You're Gods special soldier. Cant tell how many of you have come and gone. Could not be possible that you might be wrong on any subject,nooooo. So annoying, some of these newbies. smh

 

[sevenseas]

You will find the Christian Zionist Jew worshippers here very intolerant of any bad being spoken against those wicked people in Israel... it's a cult.

sickening

go worship your KJV

 

[kaylagrl]

You will find the Christian Zionist Jew worshippers here very intolerant of any bad being spoken against those wicked people in Israel... it's a cult.

Ahhh the champion walks in and takes a bow. Love these threads. I need something to drink with this popcorn....

 

[dcontroversal]

You will find the Christian Zionist Jew worshippers here very intolerant of any bad being spoken against those wicked people in Israel... it's a cult.

So is worshipping the King James

 

[Locutus]

Can we get back to discussing the issue?

 

[trofimus]

The following truths apply....

a. Jesus will sit on the throne of his father David

He already sits there.

b. Israel will be called back into the land before the end of the age

Already happened. Age ended in the 1st century.

c. Israel has been momentarily cut off so salvation can come to the Gentiles

Cut off except of remnant, yes. Momentarily? No, to the end.

d. Israel will repopulate the waste cities of the planet after the end of the age

Nonsense.

e. In Christ Israel and Gentiles have been grafted in under one banner

True. But we must add "believing ones only".

f. Jesus primarily rises from his throne to defend his people and his nation Israel

He has only one people - Church. Made of believing Gentiles and believing Jews, you already stated it in "e". So do not divide it again here.

g. Israel/Jerusalem will be the world capitol and nation during the millennial reign of Christ from the throne of David

If there even will be any millenial reign, this view is not well based in Scriptures at all.

h. Once a year ALL nations and people will be required to appear before the Lord and pay homage or suffer

Same like g)

I. Jesus will rule with a rod of iron from Israel

Same like g)

 

[dcontroversal]

Ahhh the champion walks in and takes a bow. Love these threads. I need something to drink with this popcorn....

ice cold beer here.....get your ice cold beer here.....feel like I am in Busch Stadium......get your ice cold beer here.....funny thing...his cult statement....I thought for a minute he meant those who worship King Jimmy

 

[sevenseas]

Ahhh the champion walks in and takes a bow. Love these threads. I need something to drink with this popcorn....

 

[pete9]

Why?! Why do you care whats going on with this site. People are allowed to hold whatever opinion they wish. Polls are not for judging people. You have an opinion,you gave it. Why do you ask what others think? Very odd.Just put your opinion out there and say any other is wrong.Dont put up an OP like you want honest discussion when you dont. You want to bulldoze everyone that doesn't agree with you. You have an agenda and its so annoying when newbies come here and right off begin screaming and yelling at other posters that they dont even know. Cant even take the time to get to know people. smh Im so over these type of posters. I called it the minute I read the OP.

I care whats going on because these stats help with my end-time studies. Is that unacceptable? I didn't see that in the rules..
I am glad you think I can have whatever opinion I want. I was "judged" left, right, up, and down for my opinions.. As a man of honor, I think a pile on is the worst and most disreputable thing. Did those who have opinions different from mine tread gently, or did they all pile on together with gnashing teeth. Kinda like a Stephen moment. When the Genesis 12 was brought up and I responded, no response to that, just attack me personally. How can one man bulldoze a who team that rages against him? I don't recall screaming and yelling. But one thing is for sure, you need conformity badly, such that even one guy can't disagree without being told he should have never come. That is rough.