The Tabernacle in the Wilderness

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Wansvic

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A picture of New Testament water baptism can be seen in the Tabernacle in the wilderness that God commanded Moses to construct per His specific instructions.

In scripture there are two distinct water applications. The first is a complete washing for entrance into the priesthood. Afterward those who minister must keep their hands and feet spiritually clean by being washed in the water of the Word of God.

A foreshadow of water baptism can be seen in God’s command to Moses to wash Aaron and his sons. They were to be washed prior to being clothed with priestly garments:

“And thou shalt anoint the laver and his foot, and sanctify it. And thou shalt bring Aaron and his sons unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and wash them with water. And thou shalt put upon Aaron the holy garments, and anoint him, and sanctify him; that he may minister unto me in the priest's office. And thou shalt bring his sons, and clothe them with coats:” Exodus 40:11-14

God then instructed the Israelites to wash at the laver in the courtyard before entering the tabernacle. Aaron and his sons were forbidden to enter into the Holy Place without washing at the laver. In fact, they were warned of the consequences for disobedience. They would surely DIE.

Exodus 30:18-21 “Thou shalt also make a laver of brass, and his foot also of brass, to wash withal: and thou shalt put it between the tabernacle of the congregation and the altar, and thou shalt put water therein. For Aaron and his sons shall wash their hands and their feet thereat: When they go into the tabernacle of the congregation, they shall wash with water, that they die not; or when they come near to the altar to minister, to burn offering made by fire unto the LORD: So they shall wash their hands and their feet, that they die not: and it shall be a statute for ever to them, even to him and to his seed throughout their generations.”

As stated above, death would occur if one tried to forego God’s command to wash at the laver. The washing of the natural hands and feet reflects a spiritual reality. We are to do God’s work (with hands) and walk in God’s ways (with feet) in accordance with His Word.

After the initial cleansing had taken place, Moses poured oil over the head of Aaron the high priest. This action parallels the new covenant infilling of the Holy Ghost:

Leviticus 8:12 “And he poured of the anointing oil upon Aaron's head, and anointed him, to sanctify him.”

After being washed, and clothed, Aaron and his sons were marked with blood:

“And thou shalt take the other ram; and Aaron and his sons shall put their hands upon the head of the ram. Then shalt thou kill the ram, and take of his blood, and put it upon the tip of the right ear of Aaron, and upon the tip of the right ear of his sons, and upon the thumb of their right hand, and upon the great toe of their right foot, and sprinkle the blood upon the altar round about.” Exodus 29:19-20

Note the significance of how the sacrificial blood was to be applied:

Not only did Moses sprinkle the blood on the altar and upon Aaron and his sons, along with the anointing oil, but each man was marked with blood on the right earlobe, the right thumb, and the right big toe. This was a token reminder that they must listen to God's Word, do God's work, and walk in God's way. The blood speaks of sacrifice, so the priests became "living sacrifices" in the service of the Lord. (The Bible Exposition Commentary: Old Testament )

Many believe that the blood is applied immediately when one accepts Jesus as their personal savior. However, take the time to read the twenty-ninth chapter of Exodus. What you will find is a sequence of events that parallel the New Testament salvation components.

1. Candidate accepts priestly calling.

2. Candidates are washed and adorned with holy garments. Ex 29:4

3. Oil is poured over the head of the priest. Ex 29:7

4. The priestly office is secured. Ex 29:9

5. The blood is applied after obedience to God’s commands above. Ex 29:20

After stating how the priestly office is secured, the Word instructs us about our Christian walk and how to honor God with various types of offerings.

The New Testament parallel is as follows:

1. Acceptance of Jesus sacrifice and repentance

2. Water Baptism (receive the priestly garments)

3. Infilling of the Holy Ghost

4. Priestly office secured

5. Blood of Jesus sacrifice is applied
 

bluto

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A picture of New Testament water baptism can be seen in the Tabernacle in the wilderness that God commanded Moses to construct per His specific instructions.

In scripture there are two distinct water applications. The first is a complete washing for entrance into the priesthood. Afterward those who minister must keep their hands and feet spiritually clean by being washed in the water of the Word of God.

A foreshadow of water baptism can be seen in God’s command to Moses to wash Aaron and his sons. They were to be washed prior to being clothed with priestly garments:

“And thou shalt anoint the laver and his foot, and sanctify it. And thou shalt bring Aaron and his sons unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and wash them with water. And thou shalt put upon Aaron the holy garments, and anoint him, and sanctify him; that he may minister unto me in the priest's office. And thou shalt bring his sons, and clothe them with coats:” Exodus 40:11-14

God then instructed the Israelites to wash at the laver in the courtyard before entering the tabernacle. Aaron and his sons were forbidden to enter into the Holy Place without washing at the laver. In fact, they were warned of the consequences for disobedience. They would surely DIE.

Exodus 30:18-21 “Thou shalt also make a laver of brass, and his foot also of brass, to wash withal: and thou shalt put it between the tabernacle of the congregation and the altar, and thou shalt put water therein. For Aaron and his sons shall wash their hands and their feet thereat: When they go into the tabernacle of the congregation, they shall wash with water, that they die not; or when they come near to the altar to minister, to burn offering made by fire unto the LORD: So they shall wash their hands and their feet, that they die not: and it shall be a statute for ever to them, even to him and to his seed throughout their generations.”

As stated above, death would occur if one tried to forego God’s command to wash at the laver. The washing of the natural hands and feet reflects a spiritual reality. We are to do God’s work (with hands) and walk in God’s ways (with feet) in accordance with His Word.

After the initial cleansing had taken place, Moses poured oil over the head of Aaron the high priest. This action parallels the new covenant infilling of the Holy Ghost:

Leviticus 8:12 “And he poured of the anointing oil upon Aaron's head, and anointed him, to sanctify him.”

After being washed, and clothed, Aaron and his sons were marked with blood:

“And thou shalt take the other ram; and Aaron and his sons shall put their hands upon the head of the ram. Then shalt thou kill the ram, and take of his blood, and put it upon the tip of the right ear of Aaron, and upon the tip of the right ear of his sons, and upon the thumb of their right hand, and upon the great toe of their right foot, and sprinkle the blood upon the altar round about.” Exodus 29:19-20

Note the significance of how the sacrificial blood was to be applied:

Not only did Moses sprinkle the blood on the altar and upon Aaron and his sons, along with the anointing oil, but each man was marked with blood on the right earlobe, the right thumb, and the right big toe. This was a token reminder that they must listen to God's Word, do God's work, and walk in God's way. The blood speaks of sacrifice, so the priests became "living sacrifices" in the service of the Lord. (The Bible Exposition Commentary: Old Testament )

Many believe that the blood is applied immediately when one accepts Jesus as their personal savior. However, take the time to read the twenty-ninth chapter of Exodus. What you will find is a sequence of events that parallel the New Testament salvation components.

1. Candidate accepts priestly calling.

2. Candidates are washed and adorned with holy garments. Ex 29:4

3. Oil is poured over the head of the priest. Ex 29:7

4. The priestly office is secured. Ex 29:9

5. The blood is applied after obedience to God’s commands above. Ex 29:20

After stating how the priestly office is secured, the Word instructs us about our Christian walk and how to honor God with various types of offerings.

The New Testament parallel is as follows:

1. Acceptance of Jesus sacrifice and repentance

2. Water Baptism (receive the priestly garments)

3. Infilling of the Holy Ghost

4. Priestly office secured

5. Blood of Jesus sacrifice is applied
Wait a minute wansvic, your being "inconsistent." Why are you now running to the Old Testament regarding baptism when you told me that the thief was under the old covenant which does not count or is not applicable to the New Testament covenant?

The text is crystal clear regarding the words of Jesus and the thief. First of all the thief was not baptized for repentance, yet he admitted to Jesus that he and the other thief deserved what they got. Jesus, "who knew all men" knew the thiefs heart and that the thief was sorry for what he did. Jesus then tells him that he will be in Paradise with Jesus that day.

Secondly, the OT saints were saved exactly like the NT saints which is by faith. In fact, I know you don't realize it but it was easier for the thief to get saved under the old covenant than we are under your view of the new covenant. What do I mean? The thief is not burdened with the yoke of having to get water baptized where as you and your heretical church believe one is not saved unless they are water baptized under the new covenant.

What did the Apostle Paul say at Romans 3:28? "For we maintain that a man is JUSTIFIED by faith APART FROM WORKS OF THE LAW." And Romans 4:3 where the Apostle Paul is specifically quoting Genesis 15:6, "For what does the Scripture say, "And Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness." Also read what Paul says about King David at Romans 3:6-13 where it explains at vs10, "How then was it reckoned? While he was circumcised or uncircumcised? NOT while circumcised, but while uncircumcised." It could not be more clear wansuic.

There are a million and one situations where a person can put their faith in Christ, be saved and yet it would be impossible for them to be water baptized. So your going to tell me that their lost? As the saying goes, water baptisim is an outward sign of an inward grace. I does not have no saving power and is a symbol of a salvation experience that has already taken place. You need to "scrap" this heretical teaching because it puts an undue burden on people who cannot get water baptized.

Lastly, if you want please bring up 1 Peter 3:21 and watch how I dismantle what you think it's teaching. :eek:

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
 

Leastamongmany

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#3
A picture of New Testament water baptism can be seen in the Tabernacle in the wilderness that God commanded Moses to construct per His specific instructions.

In scripture there are two distinct water applications. The first is a complete washing for entrance into the priesthood. Afterward those who minister must keep their hands and feet spiritually clean by being washed in the water of the Word of God.

A foreshadow of water baptism can be seen in God’s command to Moses to wash Aaron and his sons. They were to be washed prior to being clothed with priestly garments:

“And thou shalt anoint the laver and his foot, and sanctify it. And thou shalt bring Aaron and his sons unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and wash them with water. And thou shalt put upon Aaron the holy garments, and anoint him, and sanctify him; that he may minister unto me in the priest's office. And thou shalt bring his sons, and clothe them with coats:” Exodus 40:11-14

God then instructed the Israelites to wash at the laver in the courtyard before entering the tabernacle. Aaron and his sons were forbidden to enter into the Holy Place without washing at the laver. In fact, they were warned of the consequences for disobedience. They would surely DIE.

Exodus 30:18-21 “Thou shalt also make a laver of brass, and his foot also of brass, to wash withal: and thou shalt put it between the tabernacle of the congregation and the altar, and thou shalt put water therein. For Aaron and his sons shall wash their hands and their feet thereat: When they go into the tabernacle of the congregation, they shall wash with water, that they die not; or when they come near to the altar to minister, to burn offering made by fire unto the LORD: So they shall wash their hands and their feet, that they die not: and it shall be a statute for ever to them, even to him and to his seed throughout their generations.”

As stated above, death would occur if one tried to forego God’s command to wash at the laver. The washing of the natural hands and feet reflects a spiritual reality. We are to do God’s work (with hands) and walk in God’s ways (with feet) in accordance with His Word.

After the initial cleansing had taken place, Moses poured oil over the head of Aaron the high priest. This action parallels the new covenant infilling of the Holy Ghost:

Leviticus 8:12 “And he poured of the anointing oil upon Aaron's head, and anointed him, to sanctify him.”

After being washed, and clothed, Aaron and his sons were marked with blood:

“And thou shalt take the other ram; and Aaron and his sons shall put their hands upon the head of the ram. Then shalt thou kill the ram, and take of his blood, and put it upon the tip of the right ear of Aaron, and upon the tip of the right ear of his sons, and upon the thumb of their right hand, and upon the great toe of their right foot, and sprinkle the blood upon the altar round about.” Exodus 29:19-20

Note the significance of how the sacrificial blood was to be applied:

Not only did Moses sprinkle the blood on the altar and upon Aaron and his sons, along with the anointing oil, but each man was marked with blood on the right earlobe, the right thumb, and the right big toe. This was a token reminder that they must listen to God's Word, do God's work, and walk in God's way. The blood speaks of sacrifice, so the priests became "living sacrifices" in the service of the Lord. (The Bible Exposition Commentary: Old Testament )

Many believe that the blood is applied immediately when one accepts Jesus as their personal savior. However, take the time to read the twenty-ninth chapter of Exodus. What you will find is a sequence of events that parallel the New Testament salvation components.

1. Candidate accepts priestly calling.

2. Candidates are washed and adorned with holy garments. Ex 29:4

3. Oil is poured over the head of the priest. Ex 29:7

4. The priestly office is secured. Ex 29:9

5. The blood is applied after obedience to God’s commands above. Ex 29:20

After stating how the priestly office is secured, the Word instructs us about our Christian walk and how to honor God with various types of offerings.

The New Testament parallel is as follows

1. Acceptance of Jesus sacrifice and repentance

2. Water Baptism (receive the priestly garments)

3. Infilling of the Holy Ghost

4. Priestly office secured

5. Blood of Jesus sacrifice is applied

Wow thank you for this parrallel! I had not seen this for myself! I believe in the " Pentecost" experience,and have been saved by His amazing grace,which I accepted by faith,putting on His righteousness,an being sanctified daily by the word,and have the "oil anointing" of the full baptism of the Holy Ghost and baptism by water! Blessings! Looking forward to you upcoming post!🌞🌞🌞
 

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So we can "conclude" no water baptism,no enter heaven..the HOH?

I dont think so
 

TheDivineWatermark

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Do you think perhaps it relates to the following, somewhat:

Matthew 26:7,13 -

"7 a woman came to Him, having an alabaster flask of very costly fragrant oil [G3464 - myron/myrou/muron (apparently "made from olive oil [G1637, from G1636] and other spices"), that is, "an anointing oil"], and poured it on His head as He is reclining."

[and]

"13 Truly I say to you, wherever this gospel [see Matt24:14 (re: during the trib yrs)] shall be proclaimed in the whole world, that which this woman did also will be spoken of, for a memorial of her."


Apparently, she "anointed His head" with an "anointing oil" related to the "olive oil of the olive tree" (which, in Rom11:17,24 context, the Olive Tree pertains to "God's governmental ways upon the earth" [ = the "Olive Tree"]).
 

TheDivineWatermark

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Exodus 30:22-33 -

The Anointing Oil

22 Once again, The LORD said to Moses, 23 “Take the finest spices: 500 shekels of liquid myrrh, half as much (250 shekels) of fragrant cinnamon, 250 shekels of fragrant cane, 24 500 shekels of cassia—all according to the sanctuary shekel—and a hin of olive oil. 25 Prepare from these a holy anointing oil, a fragrant blend, the work of a perfumer; it will be a holy anointing oil.

26 Use this oil to anoint the Tent of Meeting, the ark of the Testimony, 27 the table and all its utensils, the lampstand and its utensils, the altar of incense, 28 the altar of burnt offering and all its utensils, and the basin with its stand. 29 You are to consecrate them so that they will be most holy. Whatever touches them will be holy. 30 Anoint Aaron and his sons and consecrate them to serve Me as priests.

31 And you are to tell the Israelites, ‘This will be My sacred anointing oil for the generations to come. 32 It must not be used to anoint an ordinary man, and you must not make anything like it with the same formula. It is holy, and it must be holy to you. 33 Anyone who mixes perfume like it or puts it on a layman shall be cut off from his people.’”
 

Smooth

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Why do so many people try to eliminate the saving grace of Jesus Christ?
 

Wansvic

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Wait a minute wansvic, your being "inconsistent." Why are you now running to the Old Testament regarding baptism when you told me that the thief was under the old covenant which does not count or is not applicable to the New Testament covenant?

The text is crystal clear regarding the words of Jesus and the thief. First of all the thief was not baptized for repentance, yet he admitted to Jesus that he and the other thief deserved what they got. Jesus, "who knew all men" knew the thiefs heart and that the thief was sorry for what he did. Jesus then tells him that he will be in Paradise with Jesus that day.

Secondly, the OT saints were saved exactly like the NT saints which is by faith. In fact, I know you don't realize it but it was easier for the thief to get saved under the old covenant than we are under your view of the new covenant. What do I mean? The thief is not burdened with the yoke of having to get water baptized where as you and your heretical church believe one is not saved unless they are water baptized under the new covenant.

What did the Apostle Paul say at Romans 3:28? "For we maintain that a man is JUSTIFIED by faith APART FROM WORKS OF THE LAW." And Romans 4:3 where the Apostle Paul is specifically quoting Genesis 15:6, "For what does the Scripture say, "And Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness." Also read what Paul says about King David at Romans 3:6-13 where it explains at vs10, "How then was it reckoned? While he was circumcised or uncircumcised? NOT while circumcised, but while uncircumcised." It could not be more clear wansuic.

There are a million and one situations where a person can put their faith in Christ, be saved and yet it would be impossible for them to be water baptized. So your going to tell me that their lost? As the saying goes, water baptisim is an outward sign of an inward grace. I does not have no saving power and is a symbol of a salvation experience that has already taken place. You need to "scrap" this heretical teaching because it puts an undue burden on people who cannot get water baptized.

Lastly, if you want please bring up 1 Peter 3:21 and watch how I dismantle what you think it's teaching. :eek:

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
I have no desire to argue. Just enjoy sharing points taken directly from the Word.
 

Wansvic

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Exodus 30:22-33 -

The Anointing Oil

22 Once again, The LORD said to Moses, 23 “Take the finest spices: 500 shekels of liquid myrrh, half as much (250 shekels) of fragrant cinnamon, 250 shekels of fragrant cane, 24 500 shekels of cassia—all according to the sanctuary shekel—and a hin of olive oil. 25 Prepare from these a holy anointing oil, a fragrant blend, the work of a perfumer; it will be a holy anointing oil.

26 Use this oil to anoint the Tent of Meeting, the ark of the Testimony, 27 the table and all its utensils, the lampstand and its utensils, the altar of incense, 28 the altar of burnt offering and all its utensils, and the basin with its stand. 29 You are to consecrate them so that they will be most holy. Whatever touches them will be holy. 30 Anoint Aaron and his sons and consecrate them to serve Me as priests.

31 And you are to tell the Israelites, ‘This will be My sacred anointing oil for the generations to come. 32 It must not be used to anoint an ordinary man, and you must not make anything like it with the same formula. It is holy, and it must be holy to you. 33 Anyone who mixes perfume like it or puts it on a layman shall be cut off from his people.’”
"But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:" 1 Peter 2:9
 

Wansvic

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#13
Why do so many people try to eliminate the saving grace of Jesus Christ?
The grace of Jesus Christ is in no diminished by those who see a need to be obedient to what is commanded of them upon accepting Jesus as Messiah.
 

Wansvic

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Wait a minute wansvic, your being "inconsistent." Why are you now running to the Old Testament regarding baptism when you told me that the thief was under the old covenant which does not count or is not applicable to the New Testament covenant?

The text is crystal clear regarding the words of Jesus and the thief. First of all the thief was not baptized for repentance, yet he admitted to Jesus that he and the other thief deserved what they got. Jesus, "who knew all men" knew the thiefs heart and that the thief was sorry for what he did. Jesus then tells him that he will be in Paradise with Jesus that day.

Secondly, the OT saints were saved exactly like the NT saints which is by faith. In fact, I know you don't realize it but it was easier for the thief to get saved under the old covenant than we are under your view of the new covenant. What do I mean? The thief is not burdened with the yoke of having to get water baptized where as you and your heretical church believe one is not saved unless they are water baptized under the new covenant.

What did the Apostle Paul say at Romans 3:28? "For we maintain that a man is JUSTIFIED by faith APART FROM WORKS OF THE LAW." And Romans 4:3 where the Apostle Paul is specifically quoting Genesis 15:6, "For what does the Scripture say, "And Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness." Also read what Paul says about King David at Romans 3:6-13 where it explains at vs10, "How then was it reckoned? While he was circumcised or uncircumcised? NOT while circumcised, but while uncircumcised." It could not be more clear wansuic.

There are a million and one situations where a person can put their faith in Christ, be saved and yet it would be impossible for them to be water baptized. So your going to tell me that their lost? As the saying goes, water baptisim is an outward sign of an inward grace. I does not have no saving power and is a symbol of a salvation experience that has already taken place. You need to "scrap" this heretical teaching because it puts an undue burden on people who cannot get water baptized.

Lastly, if you want please bring up 1 Peter 3:21 and watch how I dismantle what you think it's teaching. :eek:

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
The Old Testament has many aspects that foreshadow New Testament concepts.
 

Wansvic

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Why do so many people try to eliminate the saving grace of Jesus Christ?
God's grace is seen in His willingness to provide His children with a way back into right standing He was under no obligation to do so.
Surely Jesus said I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life no man comes to the Father except through me. Upon belief in Him all will be obedient to His Word.
 

bluto

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I have no desire to argue. Just enjoy sharing points taken directly from the Word.
And here I thought these were forums where we debate and discuss Gods' word but you turn it around and say, "I have no desire to argue" as if I'm the one with the problem. I too enjoy sharing the word of God as the next person "BUT" we are according to 2 Timothy 2:15 to, "Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, handling ACCURATELY the word of truth."

And apparently your not familar with 1 Peter 3:15, "but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence." So, what I'm doing is challenging your claims and what your suppose to do is defend those claims as to why your right and I'm wrong?

Let's now go through what oneness really teaches. Jesus is God the Father. Jesus is the Holy Spirit. You deny justification by faith alone by what your stating here that water baptism is required for salvation. Also one "MUST" speak in tongues. Water baptism must be administered by an ordained Oneness minister to be valid. You deny the pre-existence of the Word as the Son from John 1:1, teaching that He existed as the Father. And, among other things only oneness people will go to heaven.

Now, without arguing, show me where I'm wrong? Oh yea, one more, your church is extremely legalistic on hair length, beards or mustaches, no bathing suits and other do's and dont's. Opps, I forgot that you deny the doctrine of the Trinity thinking we believe in three gods. :eek:

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
 

Wansvic

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And here I thought these were forums where we debate and discuss Gods' word but you turn it around and say, "I have no desire to argue" as if I'm the one with the problem. I too enjoy sharing the word of God as the next person "BUT" we are according to 2 Timothy 2:15 to, "Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, handling ACCURATELY the word of truth."

And apparently your not familar with 1 Peter 3:15, "but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence." So, what I'm doing is challenging your claims and what your suppose to do is defend those claims as to why your right and I'm wrong?

Let's now go through what oneness really teaches. Jesus is God the Father. Jesus is the Holy Spirit. You deny justification by faith alone by what your stating here that water baptism is required for salvation. Also one "MUST" speak in tongues. Water baptism must be administered by an ordained Oneness minister to be valid. You deny the pre-existence of the Word as the Son from John 1:1, teaching that He existed as the Father. And, among other things only oneness people will go to heaven.

Now, without arguing, show me where I'm wrong? Oh yea, one more, your church is extremely legalistic on hair length, beards or mustaches, no bathing suits and other do's and dont's. Opps, I forgot that you deny the doctrine of the Trinity thinking we believe in three gods. :eek:

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
Your responses clearly show you have a desire to argue. In the few instances posted, you neglected to discuss the word provided and immediately jump to denominational beliefs. Denominations is not the issue. Sharing God's word is. You can agree or disagree as you like.
 

bluto

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Your responses clearly show you have a desire to argue. In the few instances posted, you neglected to discuss the word provided and immediately jump to denominational beliefs. Denominations is not the issue. Sharing God's word is. You can agree or disagree as you like.
More excuses from you. I was completed engaged in a resonable dialogue in my post #14 and you said I was argumentative there as well. It's rather apparent you can't defend your heretical oneness doctrines, and yes they are non-biblical teachings. And your right, "denominations is not the issue," sound doctrine is the issue which you don't have.

Like the Apostle Paul stated at Acts 20:27-31 the church will be attacked by wolves, not only within the church but also from out of the church to draw disciples to themselves. Therefore we are admonished to warn people and if we don't we will be held accountable to God. Ezekiel 3:18. In short, you have been duped by the oneness pentecostals which is really sad. :eek:

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
 

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The grace of Jesus Christ is in no diminished by those who see a need to be obedient to what is commanded of them upon accepting Jesus as Messiah.
Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, strength and soul. Not my words; God’s.
 
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I really really don't want to say this but I'm liking you more and more Sister. You are certainly sarcastic! Blessings🌞🌞🌞

I'm not sure why sarcasim would cause a person to like another person more...

however

I was actually not being sarcastic

that was my first reaction when I saw this no salvation without water baptism crusty old barnacled boat setting sail again

now the crusty old boat thing? yeah. that is an attempt at sarcastic humor. I like humor.

but in the first post I was just reacting and not being sarcastic

I also do not know why you say you don't want to say something and then say it

is someone forcing you? :geek: