The Ten Commandments-Were they nailed to the Cross?

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They should click on the link.

There's a reason that you hid the source of your post and people can click on the link and find out the reason for the deception.

you are ridiculous why will i hide it and that is the information i use or emailed to friends that just foolish thinkin dont you think think

do you read every thing on the links that you found just asking
 
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you are ridiculous why will i hide it and that is the information i use or emailed to friends that just foolish thinkin dont you think think
Because you don't want people on Christian Chat to know where you you copied it from--the obvious conclusion is that's it's not the gospel of Christ.

Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
 
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They should click on the link.

There's a reason that you hid the source of your post and people can click on the link and find out the reason for the deception.
you probaly did not see this hmm because i am hiding it right so i put it here for you again i hope you feel better now hmmm

[video=youtube;GOpjthItxcg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GOpjthItxcg[/video]
 
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Because you don't want people on Christian Chat to know where you you copied it from--the obvious conclusion is that's it's not the gospel of Christ.

Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

that is plagarism did you get that from biblegateway or you typed it up smarty
 
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Well, what some call "conditions" are really manifestations.
Now, what in the world does that mean?

Faith is a gift (Php 1:29; 2Pe 1:1; Ac 18:27), by grace, through the new birth (Jn 3:5),
through which we receive the free gift of salvation (Eph 2:8-9).

All those things that some call conditions (obedience, perseverance, etc.) are really
the expressions (manifestations) of true faith, of a faith that is not dead, as James would say.

If these expressions (manifestations) of faith are not in our life, that shows (manifests) that
our faith is not true, it is counterfeit (Mt 7:21-23), we have not been born again.
If these manifestations are in our life, that shows that our faith is true,
because true faith obeys.

In fact, "belief" and "obedience" are the same word in NT Greek.


Yes, we are sons of God, not slaves of God.

"Purchased, bought back, redemption" are all OT terms of slavery used throughout the NT regarding what Christ accomplished on the cross for us in relation to God's justice; i.e., condemnation (Ro 8:1), God's wrath (Ro 5:9), eternal death, sin, etc.
Paul does not mean these terms as a description of our relation to God as our Father.
In that relationship, we are neither slaves nor servants, we are sons.
Very true Elin, manifestations of the spirit are fruits of the spirit.
We have nothing that has not been given

Although, what we choose to do with what we have been given, is still the responsibility God has placed upon us.
A responsibility not to be put on Christ.
In other words Christ has done his part and we must willing choose to fulfill our duty.
(I feel the parable of the Talents illustrates this)
It could also be noted that there are two definitions of "Talent"
And within the illustration of the parable, I don't believe Christ is talking about how one invests their money.

-A variable unit of weight and money used in ancient Greece, Rome, and the Middle East.
-1. A marked innate ability; Natural endowment or ability of a superior quality.
For instance abilities one would not have otherwise without being born again and being a believer.

As well we are referred to as Saints, sons, heirs, slaves, I don't believe within the realm of Gods fully encompassing righteousness we should limit ourselves, or rather limit God to place ourselves under any one definition.

Since God rarely thinks on a small scale, is it possible we fall under all of these definitions, not just one?
 
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Because you don't want people on Christian Chat to know where you you copied it from--the obvious conclusion is that's it's not the gospel of Christ.

Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.


i have this book on pdf and aother format but heyyy could you help me copy and paste it i have not done ot as yet




 
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The old covenant is not the only covenant that is law. Every covenant God draws up at its very essence is law. The New Covenant is law just like the old Covenant is law. If you agree to the old covenant then you are under the law of the old covenant. If you agree to the New Covenant then you are under the law of the New Covenant. If you sin under the Old Covenant then you transgress the law of the Old Covenant. If you sin under the New Covenant then you transgress the law of the New Covenant.

The law of the New Covenant is far superior to the law of the Old Covenant because it requires an adjoining with the Holy Spirit to properly keep and it has many more commandments than the Old Covenant that are transmitted to the very recesses of the mind and soul by the Holy Spirit. Every teaching that proceeds out of the mouth of Christ is not a suggestion but it is a commandment.

Those under the Old covenant could keep it without the Holy Spirit as long as they followed all the ordinances and periodic cleansings that were attached to the contract. Just observing the 10 commandments is not nearly enough. Those who teach 10 commandment keeping believe that Christ only replaced the required cleansings and animal sacrifices of the old covenant leaving the 10 commandments intact but that is not the case. The New Covenant is a new and different contract which when observed completely replaces the old contract and does not amend itself to the old contract. It’s not called the Revised Covenant.

Resting and not cooking for a day is nothing compared to the obedience to Christ teachings because to do that it requires the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Resting for a day does not require the Holy Spirit to keep and it is clearly evident that it does nothing to produce a Christ like persona within the individual as evidenced by the way Isdaniel can joyfully hurl rotting flesh at his neighbours who don’t observe the Sabbath.
 
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Very true Elin, manifestations of the spirit are fruits of the spirit.
We have nothing that has not been given

Although, what we choose to do with what we have been given, is still the responsibility God has placed upon us.
A responsibility not to be put on Christ.
In other words Christ has done his part and we must willing choose to fulfill our duty.
(I feel the parable of the Talents illustrates this)
It could also be noted that there are two definitions of "Talent"
And within the illustration of the parable, I don't believe Christ is talking about how one invests their money.

-A variable unit of weight and money used in ancient Greece, Rome, and the Middle East.
-1. A marked innate ability; Natural endowment or ability of a superior quality.
For instance abilities one would not have otherwise without being born again and being a believer.

As well we are referred to as Saints, sons, heirs, slaves, I don't believe within the realm of Gods fully encompassing righteousness we should limit ourselves, or rather limit God to place ourselves under any one definition.

Since God rarely thinks on a small scale, is it possible we fall under all of these definitions, not just one?
Sure we do, because they describe different aspects of the whole picture.

And don't forget: "It is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose." (Php 2:13)

and "He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Jesus Christ."
(Php 1:6) :)
 
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The old covenant is not the only covenant that is law. Every covenant God draws up at its very essence is law. The New Covenant is law just like the old Covenant is law. If you agree to the old covenant then you are under the law of the old covenant. If you agree to the New Covenant then you are under the law of the New Covenant. If you sin under the Old Covenant then you transgress the law of the Old Covenant. If you sin under the New Covenant then you transgress the law of the New Covenant.

The law of the New Covenant is far superior to the law of the Old Covenant because it requires an adjoining with the Holy Spirit to properly keep and it has many more commandments than the Old Covenant that are transmitted to the very recesses of the mind and soul by the Holy Spirit. Every teaching that proceeds out of the mouth of Christ is not a suggestion but it is a commandment.

Those under the Old covenant could keep it without the Holy Spirit as long as they followed all the ordinances and periodic cleansings that were attached to the contract. Just observing the 10 commandments is not nearly enough. Those who teach 10 commandment keeping believe that Christ only replaced the required cleansings and animal sacrifices of the old covenant leaving the 10 commandments intact but that is not the case. The New Covenant is a new and different contract which when observed completely replaces the old contract and does not amend itself to the old contract. It’s not called the Revised Covenant.

Resting and not cooking for a day is nothing compared to the obedience to Christ teachings because to do that it requires the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Resting for a day does not require the Holy Spirit to keep and it is clearly evident that it does nothing to produce a Christ like persona within the individual as evidenced by the way Isdaniel can joyfully hurl rotting flesh at his neighbours who don’t observe the Sabbath.

Can someone love without the Holy Spirit ?
 
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Romans 10:4 ...'For Christ is the "END GOAL" of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.'

Paul wasn't meaning that Christ brought a literal end to the law of God. He meant that Christ IS THE END OBJECTIVE of the law. You see, the law of God points us to Christ Jesus. If we sin against God's eternal law, then we are pointed to Christ Jesus where we can receive forgiveness of sins.

We need the law to show us where we have gone wrong and it leads us to Christ Jesus in whom we find cleansing of sin and righteousness. This is what Paul was meaning, and THAT is the OBJECTIVE and GOAL of the law, to lead us to Christ. And we know Paul did not say that the ten commandments had come to an end, because of what he said in Romans 3:31
 
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you probaly did not see this hmm because i am hiding it right so i put it here for you again i hope you feel better now hmmm
This isn't about any YouTube video. Why are you so determined to change the topic? :confused:

The topic is how you just copy and paste things written by others without citing your sources, as I pointed out twice already.


His post is actually copy/paste from here -> The Seven Feast Days - Sabbath Keeper's name

And for some reason:

Because you don't want people on Christian Chat to know where you you copied it from--the obvious conclusion is that's it's not the gospel of Christ.

Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
that is plagarism did you get that from biblegateway or you typed it up smarty
Ok, isdaniel, you're on Christian Chat trying to convince people that quoting a verse from the 1769 King James Bible is plagiarism--it's time to report you, hmmmmmmm?
 
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Romans 10:4 ...'For Christ is the "END GOAL" of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.'

Paul wasn't meaning that Christ brought a literal end to the law of God. He meant that Christ IS THE END OBJECTIVE of the law. You see, the law of God points us to Christ Jesus. If we sin against God's eternal law, then we are pointed to Christ Jesus where we can receive forgiveness of sins.

We need the law to show us where we have gone wrong and it leads us to Christ Jesus in whom we find cleansing of sin and righteousness. This is what Paul was meaning, and THAT is the OBJECTIVE and GOAL of the law, to lead us to Christ. And we know Paul did not say that the ten commandments had come to an end, because of what he said in Romans 3:31
Christ didn't bring an end to the law; he brought an end to the dominion of the law over those who have faith.


Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? Romans 7:1

Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. Romans 7:4

For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. Romans 6:14​
 
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This isn't about any YouTube video. Why are you so determined to change the topic? :confused:

The topic is how you just copy and paste things written by others without citing your sources, as I pointed out twice already.







And for some reason:





Ok, isdaniel, you're on Christian Chat trying to convince people that quoting a verse from the 1769 King James Bible is plagiarism--it's time to report you, hmmmmmmm?

hurry up and please do because you are feeling foolish now arnt you because the first vedio i could have hide it hmmm as you said how foolish hurry up dont wait to long even the materail from my church which i took to put in all post hurry go tell quickly how foolish can one be


only you are making an issue hmmm others are smar enough to know no one can type so fast how ironic

one is wise the other is a fool the wise shall livwe and the fools shall die
 
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Even though he be a fool yet he call on my name, I shall save him. not law.
 
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This isn't about any YouTube video. Why are you so determined to change the topic? :confused:

The topic is how you just copy and paste things written by others without citing your sources, as I pointed out twice already.







And for some reason:





Ok, isdaniel, you're on Christian Chat trying to convince people that quoting a verse from the 1769 King James Bible is plagiarism--it's time to report you, hmmmmmmm?

i am am not changin the topic but you really are feeling foolish now that you se that the vedio was first and always had its link hmmm probaly that is stealing tooo dont you think truly truly you are foolish and that is that

take care

Jesus called people fool and i am to be just as He walked so hmmm go ask Him why he called persons fools
 
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Christ didn't bring an end to the law; he brought an end to the dominion of the law over those who have faith.


Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? Romans 7:1

Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. Romans 7:4

For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. Romans 6:14​
If you are not under grace are you undr law and in what context ?
 
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If you are not under grace are you undr law and in what context ?
If you are not under grace you are under judgment.

The one who believes in [Christ] is not judged, but the one who does not believe has already been judged, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God. And this is the judgment: that the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light, because their deeds were evil. John 3:18-19​
 
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Even though he be a fool yet he call on my name, I shall save him. not law.
Mark 12

28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
33 And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.
34 And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question.


i wonder if this was taken from the law of Moses

I wonder why the first four commandments pertain to God and man and the other six to man to man relationship
 
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If you are not under grace you are under judgment.

The one who believes in [Christ] is not judged, but the one who does not believe has already been judged, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God. And this is the judgment: that the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light, because their deeds were evil. John 3:18-19​
1 Corinthians 11:32But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.
 
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RRRR!!! how long will this cat fight go on?