Post #77 should just read:
According to the RCC, St. Peter was the first Roman Catholic Pope and they list a succession of Popes after him. So according to them, they existed before Nicaea. The RCC adopted the Nicaean and Constantinople creed and concept of the Trinity. Did God prove himself when Christians were smitten in the Colosseum. Were they wicked? Are people who die a horrible death smitten by God? As a Christian who loves both the Father and the Son, can never come to such a conclusion. 300 bishops that attended out of 1800 who were invited comes out to 1/9 of the total bishops in the empire attend the Council of Nicaea including the emperor Constantine whom the RCC considers a saint, even though as a self declared Christian, had his own son Crispus executed and his wife Faustina tossed into a vat of boiling water.Presided by a sun worshiper and confirmed by the RCC and attended by 1/9 of the total bishops doesn't give me much faith in the Trinity. Sebellianism, which was considered a heresy at the time believed in one God in three roles as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Trinitarians believe in one God taking the form of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. How are they different? We have so much more at our disposal than the early Church Fathers. Were they smarter than us? Is the Holy Spirit not working now? Is God one or a group? Does the Trinity even make sense? Wake up and stop judging people!
17. the infallibility of the pope
18. the pope as God's vicar on earth
and more
According to the RCC, St. Peter was the first Roman Catholic Pope and they list a succession of Popes after him. So according to them, they existed before Nicaea. The RCC adopted the Nicaean and Constantinople creed and concept of the Trinity. Did God prove himself when Christians were smitten in the Colosseum. Were they wicked? Are people who die a horrible death smitten by God? As a Christian who loves both the Father and the Son, can never come to such a conclusion. 300 bishops that attended out of 1800 who were invited comes out to 1/9 of the total bishops in the empire attend the Council of Nicaea including the emperor Constantine whom the RCC considers a saint, even though as a self declared Christian, had his own son Crispus executed and his wife Faustina tossed into a vat of boiling water.Presided by a sun worshiper and confirmed by the RCC and attended by 1/9 of the total bishops doesn't give me much faith in the Trinity. Sebellianism, which was considered a heresy at the time believed in one God in three roles as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Trinitarians believe in one God taking the form of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. How are they different? We have so much more at our disposal than the early Church Fathers. Were they smarter than us? Is the Holy Spirit not working now? Is God one or a group? Does the Trinity even make sense? Wake up and stop judging people!
I agree. You would have to consider in how many different ways that they have been wrong. Let's consider some:
1. the invention of Venial sin
2. the invention of purgatory
3. a history of selling indulgences (forgiveness of sins)
4. until recently not eating meat on Fridays
5. the order of authority ( 1st the clergy, 2nd tradition, and 3rd the bible)
6. history of persecution and execution of Christians
7. forbidding priests to marry
8. accumulation of wealth instead of distributing it
9. until recently, having the mass in Latin everywhere
10. using a host instead of bread and wine
11. forgiving sins by reciting Our Fathers and Hail Marys
12. repetition of prayers
13. worshiping idols
14. every mass is an actual re-enactment of Christ's death on the cross so that sins can be continually forgiven
15. the sexual abuse of alter boys within their organization.
16. the Trinity
1. the invention of Venial sin
2. the invention of purgatory
3. a history of selling indulgences (forgiveness of sins)
4. until recently not eating meat on Fridays
5. the order of authority ( 1st the clergy, 2nd tradition, and 3rd the bible)
6. history of persecution and execution of Christians
7. forbidding priests to marry
8. accumulation of wealth instead of distributing it
9. until recently, having the mass in Latin everywhere
10. using a host instead of bread and wine
11. forgiving sins by reciting Our Fathers and Hail Marys
12. repetition of prayers
13. worshiping idols
14. every mass is an actual re-enactment of Christ's death on the cross so that sins can be continually forgiven
15. the sexual abuse of alter boys within their organization.
16. the Trinity
18. the pope as God's vicar on earth
and more