The way some women tend to see evangelizing
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Let's see! He starts out by stereotyping all women as not knowing how to share the real gospel. And maybe some men!
Then he compounds the problem by saying it is because women are romantic! Not in my house! I watch Sci Fi, my husband watches women's channel movies!
And if there is any truth to what he is saying, it is only because women in the church have had to live with this lie of "roles" which was something which occurred after the fall, which Christ came to set us free from the results of sin!
i think many women and men do not know how to properly share the gospel, because they gave not been taught. In Seminary, our prof, who has led thousands of people to Christ around the world, said that we need to present both God's love and judgment for sin. But he warned that if you presented judgment first, they probably wouldn't stay around long enough to hear the love part in our culture.
Then he compounds the problem by saying it is because women are romantic! Not in my house! I watch Sci Fi, my husband watches women's channel movies!
And if there is any truth to what he is saying, it is only because women in the church have had to live with this lie of "roles" which was something which occurred after the fall, which Christ came to set us free from the results of sin!
i think many women and men do not know how to properly share the gospel, because they gave not been taught. In Seminary, our prof, who has led thousands of people to Christ around the world, said that we need to present both God's love and judgment for sin. But he warned that if you presented judgment first, they probably wouldn't stay around long enough to hear the love part in our culture.
I don't think gender is a cause either...
If you ever talk to people who think like this... you gotta be tactful because I think they believe judgement is evil. I like to think of a policeman or a judge.. or good parenting to show how judgement is good. Justice also is good.. because then evil goes rampant without anyone stopping it or punishing it. Some people have a hard time seeing how these concepts are good. Be tactful, be tactful
If you ever talk to people who think like this... you gotta be tactful because I think they believe judgement is evil. I like to think of a policeman or a judge.. or good parenting to show how judgement is good. Justice also is good.. because then evil goes rampant without anyone stopping it or punishing it. Some people have a hard time seeing how these concepts are good. Be tactful, be tactful
I've rejoiced in the Lord with many such women. Then I attended seminary and encountered an entirely new breed of woman -- man-hating-feminists. They spewed nonsense such as, God is a woman, Jesus was a gender-less human being, and everything wrong in the world is the White man's fault. So much love in seminary. 
I was looking more so at the girl than the preacher. Maybe the guy is wrong... actually, I don't like him so far because of how responded in one of his videos. I don't think he's polished.
The girl's opinion of how to evangelize is really what I'm looking at. Some people don't believe in evangelizing it seems... or if they do evangelize, they don't DARE mention hell or how God has a judgement on sin. That's not right. I think tactfulness is great but that doesn't mean we don't tell people about their sins.
You used the word threatened... A police man threatens criminals when criminals are in the middle of murder or rape. A father threatens a thief who is about to hurt his children. Threats are not necessarily bad. Try the word punishment... because God does punish us like a parent...
Proverbs 3:11-12
[SUP]11 [/SUP]My son, do not despise the chastening of the Lord,
Nor detest His correction;
[SUP]12 [/SUP]For whom the Lord loves He corrects,
Just as a father the son in whom he delights.
^^^ God punishes us "Just as a father"
Sometimes people learn the hard way... through consequences and in the end, God punishing us is so that we can get right again. I'm sure you know the story of the prodigal son. Also, when Nebuchadnezzar was proud God made Nebuchadnezzar go insane and act like a beast for years... At the end of this punishment... the King humbled himself and realized who God is and worshiped him. Daniel 5:20-21
I think when God threatens someone... he's either trying to straighten up someone up or he's getting rid of evil.
The girl's opinion of how to evangelize is really what I'm looking at. Some people don't believe in evangelizing it seems... or if they do evangelize, they don't DARE mention hell or how God has a judgement on sin. That's not right. I think tactfulness is great but that doesn't mean we don't tell people about their sins.
You used the word threatened... A police man threatens criminals when criminals are in the middle of murder or rape. A father threatens a thief who is about to hurt his children. Threats are not necessarily bad. Try the word punishment... because God does punish us like a parent...
Proverbs 3:11-12
[SUP]11 [/SUP]My son, do not despise the chastening of the Lord,
Nor detest His correction;
[SUP]12 [/SUP]For whom the Lord loves He corrects,
Just as a father the son in whom he delights.
^^^ God punishes us "Just as a father"
Sometimes people learn the hard way... through consequences and in the end, God punishing us is so that we can get right again. I'm sure you know the story of the prodigal son. Also, when Nebuchadnezzar was proud God made Nebuchadnezzar go insane and act like a beast for years... At the end of this punishment... the King humbled himself and realized who God is and worshiped him. Daniel 5:20-21
I think when God threatens someone... he's either trying to straighten up someone up or he's getting rid of evil.
Condemnations shouldn't be given by men, but men should preach God's judgements... men should preach what are sin's consequences and the solution, Jesus Christ's sacrifice.
I converted because of God's condemnations... so... I didn't get pushed away. My problem with justice is that there was a lot of bad things in history that I detested. I hated that a lot of people were slaughtered by crusaders and settlers in south America... central and north America..
I hated that with boiling blood... God says, nobody escapes justice. The bad guys will get what's coming to them and that made me respect God. The cross is nice but the lake of fire is what brought me to the cross.
I converted because of God's condemnations... so... I didn't get pushed away. My problem with justice is that there was a lot of bad things in history that I detested. I hated that a lot of people were slaughtered by crusaders and settlers in south America... central and north America..
I hated that with boiling blood... God says, nobody escapes justice. The bad guys will get what's coming to them and that made me respect God. The cross is nice but the lake of fire is what brought me to the cross.
I definitely didn't say all women are like this. If you look below, you'll see my original post with highlighted words which show me saying some women.
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Title of thread: The way some women tend to see evangelizing
"First of all, I haven't seen the show much at all. However, this video shows what I think.
There are women in the church... and men too (more so women from my experience) who want to avoid the idea of God's judgment on sin or hell. When you tell people about the gospel.... God's judgment is unavoidable. God's judgement is either implied or you may have to explain it when you tell people that Jesus loved you enough to die on the cross. Jesus dying on the cross for people... implies he died for a reason. That reason is because he had to take people's punish because of their sin.
Yet, often there's this sensitive, romantic, love only, no judgment gospel that some women and men seem to think is the way to go.
I believe it's because such people want to be on the good side and make everyone happy instead of telling them God's word in full.
I also think this is very dangerous as it doesn't give the full word of God and may make a false religion if God's judgment on sin is never talked about.
Thoughts?
Again... I haven't seen the show much at all. However, this video shows what I think."
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Title of thread: The way some women tend to see evangelizing
"First of all, I haven't seen the show much at all. However, this video shows what I think.
There are women in the church... and men too (more so women from my experience) who want to avoid the idea of God's judgment on sin or hell. When you tell people about the gospel.... God's judgment is unavoidable. God's judgement is either implied or you may have to explain it when you tell people that Jesus loved you enough to die on the cross. Jesus dying on the cross for people... implies he died for a reason. That reason is because he had to take people's punish because of their sin.
Yet, often there's this sensitive, romantic, love only, no judgment gospel that some women and men seem to think is the way to go.
I believe it's because such people want to be on the good side and make everyone happy instead of telling them God's word in full.
I also think this is very dangerous as it doesn't give the full word of God and may make a false religion if God's judgment on sin is never talked about.
Thoughts?
Again... I haven't seen the show much at all. However, this video shows what I think."
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My hubby is a fan of UK basketball so the colors are blue which look very nice on a tree.I briefly dated a guy who was a fan of KISS,{lost my mind temporarily} and wanted to put a KISS ornament on my tree,in my home.Ahhhh nope!
This was my tree last year.My hubby always gets me a real one because Im from Canada and miss the smell of the pine needles.
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This was my tree last year.My hubby always gets me a real one because Im from Canada and miss the smell of the pine needles.
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But I like loony.
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He didn't say any if that. And again, he's mostly agreeing with you, so should I say you're completely misogynistic too?
It's not like we can't check out people on here before judging them. Check out the dialog in this thread. Is he misogynistic or pretty accurate?
Defending yourself instead of dealing with the obvious isn't flattering. And, honestly, it's making me embarrassed to be a woman. Kind of a stereotype that we shoot off our mouths before checking out the whole story.
Good warning. Want to try it out?
It's not like we can't check out people on here before judging them. Check out the dialog in this thread. Is he misogynistic or pretty accurate?
Defending yourself instead of dealing with the obvious isn't flattering. And, honestly, it's making me embarrassed to be a woman. Kind of a stereotype that we shoot off our mouths before checking out the whole story.
Good warning. Want to try it out?
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God's judgement: Separation from God, death, and hell. Why go to just one of his three judgements?
Truthfully most nonbelievers I know know of the God in the Bible, so I don't have to start from scratch. They know that "Father" goes with God, so I take that angle, because that's the what brought me in. (I wasn't evangelized to until after being saved, so I didn't come in the traditional way.) In my mind, even back then, God's a good guy basically. He made the universe and the earth for us to enjoy. He gives us the basics whether we believe in him or not -- proper environment for our species -- enough oxygen to breathe, proper temperatures to survive in, stuff we can eat and drink that not only doesn't kill us, but actually taste good most of the time, and a wake and sleep cycle that doesn't kill us. That's a nice guy.
So why do I spit in his face? Why do I hate him? He's a nice guy, so what does that make me? A spoiled brat?
He's the Father? Shouldn't I have some respect for my Father? Doesn't he deserve that?
And then, apparently he knows he deserves that, because the Bible shows that to us, as well as experience. (I was a bratty kid, so I know what it feels like to be slapped by Dad.) Isn't that a good enough reason to know him? Isn't that a better reason than the one-way eternal-paradise vacation ticket? It was for me.
If it's not for the person I'm talking to, then we can go for what the punishment is for disrespecting him. But even there, I'd be running down the long list of how we all disrespect him, before telling what he does if that's a permanent condition.
Truthfully? I'm more into the loving God than the terrified of God aspect of our relationship. It's not that I'm a mamby-pamby. (Can I get an Amen from all those who absolutely know I'm not a mamby-pamby? lol) I just remember how I was as a kid.
Mom promised us $10 for every A we got on our report card. I grew up in the 60's. $10 was 20 weeks of allowance in one fell swoop. Forty weeks, considering we had to give half of our allowance back to save for Christmas shopping! Minimum five subjects on a report card, so that's put-down-a-down-payment-on-a-house rich in my little mind! (I wasn't far off. That was two weeks pay for Dad!) Two out of three of us didn't put in any effort and could pull B's. My poor brother! He had dyslexia and dyscalculia (and wasn't diagnosed until the 90's, because no one knew they existed) so he busted him bum to get that money, but could only pull off C's! Me? Great money! I went for it, for about one week and then I went back to my usual routine. B's were good enough. Doing bare minimum for that one-way vacation plan works for me too. How low is bare minimum?
I'm not in this for what I can get out of God. I'm in this because God is and I can truly trust him. He knows me, but loves me anyway! Cool! I don't want to bring this down to what people can pass on with God. Seems dumb.
Truthfully most nonbelievers I know know of the God in the Bible, so I don't have to start from scratch. They know that "Father" goes with God, so I take that angle, because that's the what brought me in. (I wasn't evangelized to until after being saved, so I didn't come in the traditional way.) In my mind, even back then, God's a good guy basically. He made the universe and the earth for us to enjoy. He gives us the basics whether we believe in him or not -- proper environment for our species -- enough oxygen to breathe, proper temperatures to survive in, stuff we can eat and drink that not only doesn't kill us, but actually taste good most of the time, and a wake and sleep cycle that doesn't kill us. That's a nice guy.
So why do I spit in his face? Why do I hate him? He's a nice guy, so what does that make me? A spoiled brat?
He's the Father? Shouldn't I have some respect for my Father? Doesn't he deserve that?
And then, apparently he knows he deserves that, because the Bible shows that to us, as well as experience. (I was a bratty kid, so I know what it feels like to be slapped by Dad.) Isn't that a good enough reason to know him? Isn't that a better reason than the one-way eternal-paradise vacation ticket? It was for me.
If it's not for the person I'm talking to, then we can go for what the punishment is for disrespecting him. But even there, I'd be running down the long list of how we all disrespect him, before telling what he does if that's a permanent condition.
Truthfully? I'm more into the loving God than the terrified of God aspect of our relationship. It's not that I'm a mamby-pamby. (Can I get an Amen from all those who absolutely know I'm not a mamby-pamby? lol) I just remember how I was as a kid.
Mom promised us $10 for every A we got on our report card. I grew up in the 60's. $10 was 20 weeks of allowance in one fell swoop. Forty weeks, considering we had to give half of our allowance back to save for Christmas shopping! Minimum five subjects on a report card, so that's put-down-a-down-payment-on-a-house rich in my little mind! (I wasn't far off. That was two weeks pay for Dad!) Two out of three of us didn't put in any effort and could pull B's. My poor brother! He had dyslexia and dyscalculia (and wasn't diagnosed until the 90's, because no one knew they existed) so he busted him bum to get that money, but could only pull off C's! Me? Great money! I went for it, for about one week and then I went back to my usual routine. B's were good enough. Doing bare minimum for that one-way vacation plan works for me too. How low is bare minimum?
I'm not in this for what I can get out of God. I'm in this because God is and I can truly trust him. He knows me, but loves me anyway! Cool! I don't want to bring this down to what people can pass on with God. Seems dumb.
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Its a different day in age.When my parents first married in the 70s and when they first got saved they would had out tracts,go door to door etc. Now days I dont think it is safe for a woman to be doing that type of thing.JMO What I did was in a church setting,an outdoor concert.People would stop by and hear the music and message throughout the music.Whether you agree with female pastors,and it appears you do not,I used that as an example to say there are many women who preach the truth.Just you haven't personally seen them doesnt mean there arent plenty who do.You did say some women but in your posts you seem to put more of the blame on women.JMO
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Awwww my nephews would love that!!! I like looking at how others do their trees.Each year in the city they have different artist put trees on display and when they are sold the money goes to help the poor.One year someone made a huge Frosty the Snowman out of the tree! Soooo cool.I dont have that type of talent
Just do the best with what I have.lol
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Awwww my nephews would love that!!! I like looking at how others do their trees.Each year in the city they have different artist put trees on display and when they are sold the money goes to help the poor.One year someone made a huge Frosty the Snowman out of the tree! Soooo cool.I dont have that type of talent Just do the best with what I have.lol
Just do the best with what I have.lol