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i refuse to receive a fable of what Paul wrote, one person see's Paul saying one thing, the other person the opposite. i receive what i believe to be Pauls Truth, not what the carnal mind see's.
But that's your problem, if you follow after the written code rather than the spirit all you have is the carnal mind with which to see spiritual truth.
 
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imagination is useless here so lets really have a look at all those in the past and even now claiming to follow special inspiration by the HS = division, discord, disharmony, disillusionment, contradictions and confusion = all attributed to inspiration by the HS = blasphemy of and by the HS - wincam
Lets have a look at those who attacked Paul?
Those who wanted to follow after the written code
 

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Lets have a look at those who attacked Paul?
Those who wanted to follow after the written code
Do what Paul did?

Act 13:14 But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia,
and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down.

Act 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue,
the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.

-here was A perfect chance to tell gentials not to follow the commandments,
but here he was teaching new gentials on the sabbath, who never before keep it.

Act 13:43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews
and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them,
persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.

Act 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together
to hear the word of God.

-why not preach the next day, why wait a whole week before speaking.

Act 16:12 And from thence to Philippi, which is the chief city of that part of
Macedonia, and a colony: and we were in that city abiding certain days.

Act 16:13 And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side,
where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto
the women which resorted thither.

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Act 17:1 Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia,
they came to Thessalonica, where was a synagogue of the Jews:

Act 17:2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them,
and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,

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Act 18:1 After these things Paul departed from Athens, and came to Corinth;
Act 18:2 And found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, lately come from Italy,
with his wife Priscilla; (because that Claudius had commanded all Jews to depart
from Rome and came unto them.

Act 18:3 And because he was of the same craft, he abode with them,
and wrought: for by their occupation they were tentmakers.

Act 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath,
and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

In each case Paul was preaching to Gentiles in Gentile cities on the Sabbath.
it is recorded over 80 times Paul preached to gentials on the sabbath day.


The Sabbath was instituted in Eden before the fall.
The Sabbath will be done in the future, and done in Heaven now.
 
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Do what Paul did?

Act 13:14 But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia,
and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down.

Act 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue,
the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.

-here was A perfect chance to tell gentials not to follow the commandments,
but here he was teaching new gentials on the sabbath, who never before keep it.

Act 13:43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews
and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them,
persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.

Act 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together
to hear the word of God.

-why not preach the next day, why wait a whole week before speaking.

Act 16:12 And from thence to Philippi, which is the chief city of that part of
Macedonia, and a colony: and we were in that city abiding certain days.

Act 16:13 And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side,
where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto
the women which resorted thither.

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Act 17:1 Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia,
they came to Thessalonica, where was a synagogue of the Jews:

Act 17:2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them,
and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,

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Act 18:1 After these things Paul departed from Athens, and came to Corinth;
Act 18:2 And found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, lately come from Italy,
with his wife Priscilla; (because that Claudius had commanded all Jews to depart
from Rome and came unto them.

Act 18:3 And because he was of the same craft, he abode with them,
and wrought: for by their occupation they were tentmakers.

Act 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath,
and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

In each case Paul was preaching to Gentiles in Gentile cities on the Sabbath.
it is recorded over 80 times Paul preached to gentials on the sabbath day.


The Sabbath was instituted in Eden before the fall.
The Sabbath will be done in the future, and done in Heaven now.
To the Jews I become like a jew to win the Jews. To those under the law I become like one under the law....... 1cor9:20
 

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To the Jews I become like a jew to win the Jews. To those under the law I become like one under the law....... 1cor9:20
that does not explain why Paul taught to [the gentials] only, at times on the sabbath.

they had never keep the sabbath, now they started to, and taught by Paul.
 
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that does not explain why Paul taught to [the gentials] only, at times on the sabbath.

they had never keep the sabbath, now they started to, and taught by Paul.
Did Paul only ever preach to gentiles on Saturdays?

You are still following the letter to base your beliefs on, not the spirit
 

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Did Paul only ever preach to gentiles on Saturdays?

You are still following the letter to base your beliefs on, not the spirit
Act 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue,
the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
 
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But that's your problem, if you follow after the written code rather than the spirit all you have is the carnal mind with which to see spiritual truth.
What written code? The Holy Spirit will not deny Gods Truth.
 
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Been studying and living in(believing in) the Word for 35 yrs, and still learning new things. So its not like this all just came about.
 
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Paul went to the Jew first when he went into a city to preach as in Acts 13:42..In this case it was the Jews and the gentile proselytes that heard him. The reason Paul went on Saturday is because that is where they went to hear from the scriptures. Much similar today - we go to where the people congregate to give them the word.

The place and time is irrelevant. It's where do people gather?..go there then!

I did notice that the next Saturday all the city came to hear Paul speak..I'm sure they were gentiles as well as the former people from before.


Acts 13:42-44 (NASB)
[SUP]42 [/SUP] As Paul and Barnabas were going out, the people kept begging that these things might be spoken to them the next Sabbath.
[SUP]43 [/SUP] Now when the meeting of the synagogue had broken up, many of the Jews and of the God-fearing proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas, who, speaking to them, were urging them to continue in the grace of God.
[SUP]44 [/SUP] The next Sabbath nearly the whole city assembled to hear the word of the Lord.



Act 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue,
the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
 
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Act 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue,
the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
Under the old covenant the Sabbath had always been on the seventh day and people naturally just kept going to the synagogue on that day. Did that mean they had to? Not according to Paul(Rom14:5)


You don't believe in observing a Saturday Sabbath for the law on your heart convicted you to, you had to read the literal letter of OT law, in order to believe that is the day you must observe. That is following after the written code, not the Holy Spirit
 
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Been studying and living in(believing in) the Word for 35 yrs, and still learning new things. So its not like this all just came about.
Many Jehovahs witnesses have studied the word for thirty five years or more also
 

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Saturday night has been used figuratively to suggest "drunkenness and looseness in relations between the young men and young women" since at least mid-19c. Saturday-night special "cheap, low-caliber handgun" is American English, attested from 1976 (earlier Saturday-night pistol, 1929).
or T.G.I.F. - Thank God it's friday

Most everyone has heard of this, after a long week of work it's party time.

People all over the world go out drinking and dancing or what not on this night,
the lust of the eyes, drunkenness and only God knows what else goes on.

Then maybe they will rest or go to church on sunday, or maybe just watch a sports game.
The world is pressing to make a day of rest for all, christines or non christen alike,
on sunday, law even now, but rome is making it a quiet day, no noise even allowed at home.

but just as the sabbath holy time starts, His time,
the world does the very opposite, and unholy things is done.

I myself now believe tgif was made by the devils influence and not for God.
just wanted to share my thoughts on this subject
 

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Under the old covenant the Sabbath had always been on the seventh day and people
naturally just kept going to the synagogue on that day. Did that mean they had to? Not according to Paul(Rom14:5)
A warning-about entering His rest

Heb 4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering
into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.

-how did they came short?

Heb 4:2 For indeed we have had good tidings preached unto us,
even as also they: but the word of hearing did not profit them,
because it was not united by (faith) with them that heard.

-they did not have faith.

Heb 4:3 For we who have believed do enter into that rest;even as
he hath said, As I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest:
although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

Heb 4:4 For he hath said somewhere of the seventh day on this wise,
And God rested on the seventh day from all his works;

-notice entering into that rest is connected with the seventh day.

Heb 4:5 and in this place again, They shall not enter into my rest.
Heb 4:6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some should enter thereinto,
and they to whom the good tidings were before preached
failed to enter in because of disobedience,

-God said they will not enter His rest, but they failed because of [disobedience].
about the 7th day Sabbath command.

Heb 4:7 he again defineth a certain day, To-day, saying in David
so long a time afterward (even as hath been said before),
To-day if ye shall hear his voice, Harden not your hearts.

Heb 4:8 For if Joshua had given them rest, he would not have spoken afterward of another day.

-David said "today" long after Joshua took them into the promised land
so thus proving that there is a rest still to be entered.

Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a sabbath rest for the people of God.
Heb 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest hath himself also rested from his works,
as God did from his. Let us therefore give diligence to enter into that rest,

that no man fall after the same example of [disobedience].

-A rest remains, but notice the issue is do not disobey.

Heb 9:3 And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holy of holies;
Heb 9:4 having a golden altar of incense, and the ark of the covenant overlaid
round about with gold, wherein was a golden pot holding the manna,
and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;

-the pot of manna was put in the most Holy

Deu 8:2 And thou shalt remember all the way which Jehovah thy God hath led thee
these forty years in the wilderness, that he might humble thee, to prove thee, to know
what was in thy heart, whether thou wouldest keep his commandments, or not.
Deu 8:3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna,
which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know

that man doth not live by bread only, but by everything that proceedeth
out of the mouth of Jehovah doth man live.

-God tested them for 40 years to humble them to see what was in their hearts.
that they should live by every word (10 commandments spoken by Gods own mouth)
not by bread alone.

-what did the bread teach?

Exo 16:4 Then said Jehovah unto Moses, Behold, I will rain bread from heaven for you;
and the people shall go out and gather a day's portion every day, that I may prove them,
whether they will walk in my law, or not.

Exo 16:5 And it shall come to pass on the sixth day, that they shall prepare that which
they bring in, and it shall be twice as much as they gather daily.

-and how long did God prove them with the manna?

Exo 16:32 And Moses said, This is the thing which Jehovah hath commanded, Let
an omerful of it be kept throughout your generations, that they may see the bread
wherewith I fed you in the wilderness, when I brought you forth from the land of Egypt.
Exo 16:33 And Moses said unto Aaron, Take a pot, and put an omerful of manna therein,
and lay it up before Jehovah, to be kept throughout your generations.

As Jehovah commanded Moses, so Aaron laid it up before the Testimony, to be kept.
And the children of Israel did eat the manna forty years, until they came to a land inhabited;
they did eat the manna, until they came unto the borders of the land of Canaan.

-40 years. this is the issue being spoken of in Hebrews:

Heb 3:16 For who, when they heard, did provoke? nay, did not all they
that came out of Egypt by Moses?
Heb 3:17 And with whom was he displeased forty years?
was it not with them that sinned, whose bodies fell in the wilderness?
Heb 3:18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest,
but to them that were disobedient?
Heb 3:19 And we see that they were not able to enter in because of unbelief.

Hebrews 4:4-10 "For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise,
And God did rest the seventh day from all his works [Gen. 2:2-3].

And in this place again,

If they shall enter into my rest. Seeing therefore it remaineth
that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in
because of unbelief [sound familiar?]: Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David,
To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.

For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
There remaineth therefore a rest [see below] to the people of God. For he that is entered
into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his."

rest (G4520) sabbatismos
1. a keeping sabbath
2. the blessed rest from toils and troubles looked for in the age to come by
the true worshippers of God and true Christians
from a derivative of G4521

(G4521) sabbaton
1. the seventh day of each week which was a sacred festival on which the Israelites
were required to abstain from all work
1a. the institution of the sabbath, the law for keeping holy every seventh day of the week
1b. a single sabbath, sabbath day
2. seven days, a week
of Hebrew origin H7676

(H7676) shabba^th
1. Sabbath
1a. sabbath
1b. day of atonement
1c. sabbath year
1d. week
1e. produce (in sabbath year)
intensive from H7673

(7673) sha^bath
1. to cease, desist, rest
1a. (Qal)
1a-1. to cease
1a-2. to rest, desist (from labour)
1b. (Niphal) to cease
1c. (Hiphil)
1c-1. to cause to cease, put an end to
1c-2. to exterminate, destroy
1c-3. to cause to desist from
1c-4. to remove
1c-5. to cause to fail
2. (Qal) to keep or observe the sabbath
a primitive root


Genesis 2:2-3 "And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made;
and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God
blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from
all his work which God created and made."

The LORD created the seventh day (Sabbath), blessed and sanctified it
"because that in it he had rested from all his work".

-once God has blessed something, can it be undone?

Numbers 23:19-20 "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man,
that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall
he not make it good? Behold, I have received commandment to bless:

and he hath blessed; and [I cannot reverse it]."

-Here Balaam tells Balak that the LORD gave him a commandment to bless Israel.

He told Balak that what the LORD has blessed, he cannot reverse it.
Do we think we can reverse the blessing the LORD has placed on something?

1 Chronicles 17:26-27 "And now, LORD, thou art God, and hast promised this goodness
unto thy servant: Now therefore let it please thee to bless the house of thy servant, that it may
be before thee for ever: for thou blessest, O LORD, and it shall be blessed for ever."
 
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A warning-about entering His rest

Heb 4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering
into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.

-how did they came short?

Heb 4:2 For indeed we have had good tidings preached unto us,
even as also they: but the word of hearing did not profit them,
because it was not united by (faith) with them that heard.

-they did not have faith.

Heb 4:3 For we who have believed do enter into that rest;even as
he hath said, As I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest:
although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

Heb 4:4 For he hath said somewhere of the seventh day on this wise,
And God rested on the seventh day from all his works;

-notice entering into that rest is connected with the seventh day.

Heb 4:5 and in this place again, They shall not enter into my rest.
Heb 4:6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some should enter thereinto,
and they to whom the good tidings were before preached
failed to enter in because of disobedience,

-God said they will not enter His rest, but they failed because of [disobedience].
about the 7th day Sabbath command.

Heb 4:7 he again defineth a certain day, To-day, saying in David
so long a time afterward (even as hath been said before),
To-day if ye shall hear his voice, Harden not your hearts.

Heb 4:8 For if Joshua had given them rest, he would not have spoken afterward of another day.

-David said "today" long after Joshua took them into the promised land
so thus proving that there is a rest still to be entered.

Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a sabbath rest for the people of God.
Heb 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest hath himself also rested from his works,
as God did from his. Let us therefore give diligence to enter into that rest,

that no man fall after the same example of [disobedience].

-A rest remains, but notice the issue is do not disobey.

Heb 9:3 And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holy of holies;
Heb 9:4 having a golden altar of incense, and the ark of the covenant overlaid
round about with gold, wherein was a golden pot holding the manna,
and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;

-the pot of manna was put in the most Holy

Deu 8:2 And thou shalt remember all the way which Jehovah thy God hath led thee
these forty years in the wilderness, that he might humble thee, to prove thee, to know
what was in thy heart, whether thou wouldest keep his commandments, or not.
Deu 8:3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna,
which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know

that man doth not live by bread only, but by everything that proceedeth
out of the mouth of Jehovah doth man live.

-God tested them for 40 years to humble them to see what was in their hearts.
that they should live by every word (10 commandments spoken by Gods own mouth)
not by bread alone.

-what did the bread teach?

Exo 16:4 Then said Jehovah unto Moses, Behold, I will rain bread from heaven for you;
and the people shall go out and gather a day's portion every day, that I may prove them,
whether they will walk in my law, or not.

Exo 16:5 And it shall come to pass on the sixth day, that they shall prepare that which
they bring in, and it shall be twice as much as they gather daily.

-and how long did God prove them with the manna?

Exo 16:32 And Moses said, This is the thing which Jehovah hath commanded, Let
an omerful of it be kept throughout your generations, that they may see the bread
wherewith I fed you in the wilderness, when I brought you forth from the land of Egypt.
Exo 16:33 And Moses said unto Aaron, Take a pot, and put an omerful of manna therein,
and lay it up before Jehovah, to be kept throughout your generations.

As Jehovah commanded Moses, so Aaron laid it up before the Testimony, to be kept.
And the children of Israel did eat the manna forty years, until they came to a land inhabited;
they did eat the manna, until they came unto the borders of the land of Canaan.

-40 years. this is the issue being spoken of in Hebrews:

Heb 3:16 For who, when they heard, did provoke? nay, did not all they
that came out of Egypt by Moses?
Heb 3:17 And with whom was he displeased forty years?
was it not with them that sinned, whose bodies fell in the wilderness?
Heb 3:18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest,
but to them that were disobedient?
Heb 3:19 And we see that they were not able to enter in because of unbelief.

Hebrews 4:4-10 "For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise,
And God did rest the seventh day from all his works [Gen. 2:2-3].

And in this place again,

If they shall enter into my rest. Seeing therefore it remaineth
that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in
because of unbelief [sound familiar?]: Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David,
To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.

For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
There remaineth therefore a rest [see below] to the people of God. For he that is entered
into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his."

rest (G4520) sabbatismos
1. a keeping sabbath
2. the blessed rest from toils and troubles looked for in the age to come by
the true worshippers of God and true Christians
from a derivative of G4521

(G4521) sabbaton
1. the seventh day of each week which was a sacred festival on which the Israelites
were required to abstain from all work
1a. the institution of the sabbath, the law for keeping holy every seventh day of the week
1b. a single sabbath, sabbath day
2. seven days, a week
of Hebrew origin H7676

(H7676) shabba^th
1. Sabbath
1a. sabbath
1b. day of atonement
1c. sabbath year
1d. week
1e. produce (in sabbath year)
intensive from H7673

(7673) sha^bath
1. to cease, desist, rest
1a. (Qal)
1a-1. to cease
1a-2. to rest, desist (from labour)
1b. (Niphal) to cease
1c. (Hiphil)
1c-1. to cause to cease, put an end to
1c-2. to exterminate, destroy
1c-3. to cause to desist from
1c-4. to remove
1c-5. to cause to fail
2. (Qal) to keep or observe the sabbath
a primitive root


Genesis 2:2-3 "And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made;
and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God
blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from
all his work which God created and made."

The LORD created the seventh day (Sabbath), blessed and sanctified it
"because that in it he had rested from all his work".

-once God has blessed something, can it be undone?

Numbers 23:19-20 "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man,
that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall
he not make it good? Behold, I have received commandment to bless:

and he hath blessed; and [I cannot reverse it]."

-Here Balaam tells Balak that the LORD gave him a commandment to bless Israel.

He told Balak that what the LORD has blessed, he cannot reverse it.
Do we think we can reverse the blessing the LORD has placed on something?

1 Chronicles 17:26-27 "And now, LORD, thou art God, and hast promised this goodness
unto thy servant: Now therefore let it please thee to bless the house of thy servant, that it may
be before thee for ever: for thou blessest, O LORD, and it shall be blessed for ever."
It is written nowhere in the NT gentile converts should follow a Saturday Sabbath, only that they don't have to follow a specific day of worship/rest
 
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Jesus is the fulfillment of the real Sabbath! The day in the OT was a shadow of the real substance to come which is Christ. Remember the OT was Christ concealed. The NT is Christ revealed.

Colossians 2:16-17 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day—
[SUP]17 [/SUP] things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
 
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Neh 13:15-17

15 In those days I saw in Judah some treading wine presses on the Sabbath, and bringing in sheaves, and lading asses; as also wine, grapes, and figs, and all manner of burdens, which they brought into Jerusalem on the Sabbath day: and I testified against them in the day wherein THEY SOLD VICTUALS.

16 There dwelt men of Tyre also therein which brought fish, and all manner of ware, and sold on the Sabbath to the children of Judah, and in Jerusalem.

So the children of Israel were obviously buying wares and food from them.

17 Then I contended with the nobles of Judah, and said to them, what evil thing is this that you do, AND PROFANE THE SABBATH DAY?

This is pretty straight forward. Refute it however you would like.

Isaiah recorded your Creator saying that “if” you return to Him and His Sabbaths, “then” He will deliver you.

If you think that returning to them does not mean that you also need to refrain from buying and selling, this is your choice.

I also suggest that you do not simply return to the do’s and the don’ts because it you do, then you will not be delighting in the Sabbaths and delighting in them is also a requirement.

Amos records some starch warnings for those of you who will return to His ways with “an attitude”.

And this is a prophesy for right now as well;
 
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Amos 8:3-9

3 And the songs of the temple will be wailings in that day, says YEHWEH Elohiym: there will be many dead bodies in every place; they will cast them forth with silence.

4 Hear this, you that devour the needy and cause the poor of the land to fail,

5 saying, WHEN WILL THE NEW MOON BE GONE, THAT WE MAY BARTER CORN? AND THE SABBATH, THAT WE MAY SET FORTH WHEAT, making the ephah small, and the shekel great, and falsifying the balances with deceit?

He is talking about an attitude that people will have in the last days against obeying their Creator.

Some will return to Him in the coming days but will do so with a bitterness in their hearts.

This has been prophesied as well and I have already witnessed it.

I’ve seen people even agree to cover their heads as is also being commanded at this time or even putting on tassels to think that they will save their necks by doing so.

But they are bitter about other things that He is commanding and restoring.

And they are hiding from their bitterness by trying to copy a part of their Creator’s work instead of joining in with Him.

They won’t join in with Him because of their rebellious hearts and their pride is keeping them from selling out for what He is doing.

They think that they can please Him on their own terms by obeying part of what He is telling them.

The willful rebellion in man’s hearts is incredible to witness.

He goes on a few verses later to say;

7 YEHWEH has sworn by the Excellency of Jacob, Surely I will never forget any of their works.

When I make mention of some trying to duplicate parts of their Creator’s work, this is exactly what Saul of Tarsus did.

He took bits and pieces of the truth and made a new religion out of them.

I will do a video called “operation twist” that speaks of how satan’s servants do this in more detail.

This is what his servants do; they try and hijack the truth and mix in what they think is truth with it.

This exactly what his servants did in switching the Sabbath to Saturday and to Sunday.

They don’t always get rid of the truth; they just pervert it or make a part truth a whole truth to keep people away from the whole truth.

This is because they want people to follow their version of the truth. They want to be heard.

They lift themselves up as prophets even though they might not call themselves prophets.

They want to find fault with what their Creator is doing so that they can justify doing it the way they want.

They do this because they want to keep the attention and the focus on themselves.