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Nehemiah6

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They say on one hand that the few archaic words in our Bible are too difficult, so read a dumbed down version. On the other hand they say that you must learn ancient foreign languages in order to really understand the Bible.
Dumbed down and also corrupted. No one needs to learn Hebrew and Greek. And no one needs to go to a seminary to be more proficient in understanding God's truth.

Where there are some difficult words in the KJB there are plenty of Bible study tools. Other than that the KJB is fine. And you are right about how well the Founding Fathers used English. They too had been brought up on the KJB.
 

JohnDB

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Hi,

You might be interested, please see the link below to learn about the Revisers Committee of 1881.
Thanks
https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw148802/The-Revisers-of-the-New-Testament-1881
The Revisers of the New Testament in 1881 were scholars from Great Britain and America who worked on the Revised Version of the Bible, a revision of the King James Version. Some of the most well-known members of the revision committee were Brooke Foss Westcott and Fenton John Anthony Hort

it's the RSV....the translation was done already for the most part. There were some new manuscripts used for some editing.

Again....the RSV is a revision of the Oxford/Cambridge Translation dubbed the KJV. (It never was accepted after publication)
The RSV was never really accepted in the UK either....however it was brought over to America during and after WW1 by the English and German immigrants....of which 1 was my family.

The RSV is not a translation....it's a revision due to new manuscript evidence and coupled with Wetcott's knowledge of extra-Biblical texts which are referenced heavily by the book of Hebrews. Hort? More of a financier of Westcott than a true theologian himself....he definitely pushed for Westcott to make a translation and Westcott had the skills to do so but Westcott was already at his limit with the threats from the Catholic Church. He was NOT going to face anymore political danger and persecution because of a translation he created. And FYI....this was still a time period when being of the wrong denomination would get you killed in Europe.
 

Magenta

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Jesus spoke in parables for His reasons.

Matthew13-13-15 Then the disciples came to Jesus and asked, “Why do You speak to the people in parables?” He replied, “The knowledge of the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. Whoever has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. This is why I speak to them in parables: ‘Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand.’ In them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled: ‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving. For this people’s heart has grown callous; they hardly hear with their ears and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn, and I would heal them.’”
 

Genez

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The Westcott and Hort text is corrupt. Any bible version translated from it is corrupt. This covers most modern bible versions.

Just because a manuscript [fragment] is older does not necessarily mean it is better, more accurate or correct, etc.

The Textus Receptus (received text) is the most accurate and correct.
Can you very the integrity of the source of your conclusion?

Keep in mind, Satan has always had his fake news media within Christian circles.
And, many do believe what they are told, after being sold on an idea that sits well with their current state of confusion.
 

Genez

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The irony of all this KJV preference?

Because of its accurate translation of certain passages?
Which it does.

Opens the door for a reason why someone under certain circumstances, would objectively be allowed for some abortions.
 

fredoheaven

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The Revisers of the New Testament in 1881 were scholars from Great Britain and America who worked on the Revised Version of the Bible, a revision of the King James Version. Some of the most well-known members of the revision committee were Brooke Foss Westcott and Fenton John Anthony Hort

it's the RSV....the translation was done already for the most part. There were some new manuscripts used for some editing.

Again....the RSV is a revision of the Oxford/Cambridge Translation dubbed the KJV. (It never was accepted after publication)
The RSV was never really accepted in the UK either....however it was brought over to America during and after WW1 by the English and German immigrants....of which 1 was my family.

The RSV is not a translation....it's a revision due to new manuscript evidence and coupled with Wetcott's knowledge of extra-Biblical texts which are referenced heavily by the book of Hebrews. Hort? More of a financier of Westcott than a true theologian himself....he definitely pushed for Westcott to make a translation and Westcott had the skills to do so but Westcott was already at his limit with the threats from the Catholic Church. He was NOT going to face anymore political danger and persecution because of a translation he created. And FYI....this was still a time period when being of the wrong denomination would get you killed in Europe.
Here is the fact of the RSV, note the RSV is a revision mainly of ASV published in 1952 ‘and has met with wide acceptance.’ Your report is somewhat not in line with the facts.

The Revised Standard Version of the Bible, containing the Old and New Testaments, was published on September 30, 1952, and has met with wide acceptance. This preface does not undertake to set forth in detail the lines along which the revision proceeded. That is done in pamphlets entitled An Introduction to the Revised Standard Version of the Old Testament and An Introduction to the Revised Standard Version of the New Testament, written by members of the Committee and designed to help the general public to understand the main principles which have guided this comprehensive revision of the King James and American Standard versions.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160518063139/http://www.ncccusa.org/newbtu/aboutrsv.html