The word of God is not a secret code that needs unlocked.

[Magenta]

I find the following two verses to be very instructive...

13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. (1 Co 2:13–14)​

The code is cracked only when a person 1) has the Spirit of God living in his heart, and 2) when he learns from the Spirit the hidden things of the Bible that He teaches them from the depths of their own heart.

This is why people can read the Bible, not understand it, and twist it to their own destruction (2 Pet 3:16).

There are some here who do not believe 1 Cor. 2:14. They postulate that the natural man is
well enough equipped, with no help from God whatsoever, to choose to believe in Him.
They reduce it to a moral decision, though none do good nor are righteous either.
(That is, according to Scripture.)

 

[HeIsHere]

I find the following two verses to be very instructive...

13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. (1 Co 2:13–14)​

The code is cracked only when a person 1) has the Spirit of God living in his heart, and 2) when he learns from the Spirit the hidden things of the Bible that He teaches them from the depths of their own heart.

This is why people can read the Bible, not understand it, and twist it to their own destruction (2 Pet 3:16).

Well many people have the indwelling Spirit and still do not understand it and twist scripture, so there is that.

 

[Genez]

Well many people have the indwelling Spirit and still do not understand it and twist scripture, so there is that.

Paul had his hands full with chronically carnal believers.

Philippians 3:18-19​

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For many walk, of whom I often told you, and now tell you even as I weep, ​

that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ, whose end is destruction, ​

whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who have their ​

minds on earthly things.​

The ancients used the word 'belly" to mean what we today refer to as 'emotions.'
In the KJV you will see examples of this kind of ancient word usage throughout the Bible.

Here is another example.

My beloved put in his hand by the hole of the door,​

and my bowels were moved for him."​

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Song of Solomon 5:4​

Authorized (King James) Version​

If one does not learn of this reality in word usage?
As we can see in Song of Solomon 5:4?
Someone preaching in a KJV Only church?
He can walk into very embarrassing moments before his congregation.

grace and peace .................

 

[Kroogz]

There are some here who do not believe 1 Cor. 2:14. They postulate that the natural man is
well enough equipped, with no help from God whatsoever, to choose to believe in Him.

I am on many forums, and I have never heard of this. It's always through the Holy Spirit............Man can reject it.

2 Corinthians 6:2
For He says: “In an acceptable time I have heard you, And in the day of salvation I have helped you.” Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.

 

[Magenta]

I find the following two verses to be very instructive...

13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. (1 Co 2:13–14)​

The code is cracked only when a person 1) has the Spirit of God living in his heart, and 2) when he learns from the Spirit the hidden things of the Bible that He teaches them from the depths of their own heart.

This is why people can read the Bible, not understand it, and twist it to their own destruction (2 Pet 3:16).

1 Corinthians 2:13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
Thank you for the inspiration! I hope you and yours are well .

 

[Magenta]

I am on many forums, and I have never heard of this. It's always through the Holy Spirit............Man can reject it.

2 Corinthians 6:2
For He says: “In an acceptable time I have heard you, And in the day of salvation I have helped you.” Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.

You have learned something new today! Yay. It sure does take all kinds, huh?

And it sure is true that it is God that draws us and makes it possible for us to believe.

Scripture very plainly teaches this. Why some deny it? Hmmm.

It has to do with their adherence to doctrines not found in the Bible.

 

[Kroogz]

You have learned something new today! Yay. It sure does take all kinds, huh?

And it sure is true that it is God that draws us and makes it possible for us to believe.

Scripture very plainly teaches this. Why some deny it? Hmmm.

It has to do with their adherence to doctrines not found in the Bible.

Name one on this forum? I haven't seen any.

I don't think I learned anything new...Bummer.

 

[Magenta]

Name one on this forum? I haven't seen any.

I don't think I learned anything new...Bummer.

I'm not a gossip so I'm not naming names...

But keep your eyes open... You might learn something yet.

 

[Magenta]

I am on many forums, and I have never heard of this. It's always through the Holy Spirit............Man can reject it.

2 Corinthians 6:2
For He says: “In an acceptable time I have heard you, And in the day of salvation I have helped you.” Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.

2 Corinthians 6:1b-2 (Isaiah 49:8) We urge you not to receive God’s grace in vain. For He says: “In the time of favor I heard you, and in the day of salvation I helped you.” Behold, now is the time of favor; now is the day of salvation!
Thank you for the inspiration! This is a great addition to augment the plethora of verses that quite a few
people deny with their rejection of what Scripture says of the natural man. I hope you and yours are well .

 

[Bible_Highlighter]

Nay, I'm content, yet thou mayest still continuith to readeth the KJV with all diligence.

But imagine the KJV is really God’s Word and you do not realize it. Imagine the horror of such a thing if you are wrong. You would be mocking God’s Word with your speech here, which would displease God greatly. Christians in English-speaking countries once were united by the Bible (The KJV) instead of the confusion we face with conflicting Modern Bibles today. In the past, one Christian was able to quote the first half of a verse in the KJV, and another was able to finish by quoting it. However, Christians today in these countries have become the enemy of their own book they are supposed to believe and obey without question. "Ye hath God said...?" is now the new profession of faith in many churches today. Christians have now become their own authority instead of the Bible.

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[Dino246]

But imagine the KJV is really God’s Word and you do not realize it. Imagine the horror of such a thing if you are wrong. You would be mocking God’s Word with your speech here, which would displease God greatly. Christians in English-speaking countries once were united by the Bible (The KJV) instead of the confusion we face with conflicting Modern Bibles today. In the past, one Christian was able to quote the first half of a verse in the KJV, and another was able to finish by quoting it. However, Christians today in these countries have become the enemy of their own book they are supposed to believe and obey without question. "Ye hath God said...?" is now the new profession of faith in many churches today. Christians have now become their own authority instead of the Bible.

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Your "logic" can be used to defend any book, including the Qu'ran, the book of Mormon, even The Origin of Species, so you might want to rethink using speculation as the basis for reasoning.

There was never a time when all English-speaking Christians primarily used the KJV. It's silly to claim someone can be the enemy of a book; that's just not how the word is used.

Which is more important: that the word of God (any translation thereof) be available to people, or that all people use the same translation? I'd say the former... by far. There isn't a single major doctrine that is actually undermined by any modern translation (excluding those prepared by cult groups, of course).

 

[Bible_Highlighter]

Your "logic" can be used to defend any book, including the Qu'ran, the book of Mormon, even The Origin of Species, so you might want to rethink using speculation as the basis for reasoning.

So you are comparing the KJV (the Bible) to other heretical religious books?
But alas, either you have not been listening or you have taken the blue pill.
God's Word (the KJV) has caused three of the great revivals in our history.
We all still speak like the KJV today (the writing is on the wall, thorn in the flesh, a drop in the bucket, etc.).
The KJV is the most printed book in the world. It's positive impact has formed the Protestant English-speaking world as we know it.

There was never a time when all English-speaking Christians primarily used the KJV. It's silly to claim someone can be the enemy of a book; that's just not how the word is used.

No offense, but this is sort of like going full woke or being like the Leftist media which suppresses basic facts. Just try researching it on the internet for a change and maybe you will learn something significant about the history of the Bible (the KJV).

Which is more important: that the word of God (any translation thereof) be available to people, or that all people use the same translation? I'd say the former... by far. There isn't a single major doctrine that is actually undermined by any modern translation (excluding those prepared by cult groups, of course).

The problem with this line of thinking is that cult groups have actually hated the KJV and they prefer Modern Translations because they are easier to twist to their own agenda. They can pick a new Modern Bible that fits their false beliefs. Granted, this is not to say that cults cannot use the KJV, it is just that such a book has been hated by the likes of famous cult leaders in the past. I mean stop and think a moment. If an occultist says the same exact things that Christians are saying regarding the KJV in 1942, that should make you greatly concerned. But I know it doesn’t because your response was the sleeping emoticon.


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[Cameron143]

So you are comparing the KJV (the Bible) to other heretical religious books?
But alas, either you have not been listening or you have taken the blue pill.
God's Word (the KJV) has caused three of the great revivals in our history.
We all still speak like the KJV today (the writing is on the wall, thorn in the flesh, a drop in the bucket, etc.).
The KJV is the most printed book in the world. It's positive impact has formed the Protestant English-speaking world as we know it.



No offense, but this is sort of like going full woke or being like the Leftist media which suppresses basic facts. Just try researching it on the internet for a change and maybe you will learn something significant about the history of the Bible (the KJV).



The problem with this line of thinking is that cult groups have actually hated the KJV and they prefer Modern Translations because they are easier to twist to their own agenda. They can pick a new Modern Bible that fits their false beliefs. Granted, this is not to say that cults cannot use the KJV, it is just that such a book has been hated by the likes of famous cult leaders in the past. I mean stop and think a moment. If an occultist says the same exact things that Christians are saying regarding the KJV in 1942, that should make you greatly concerned. But I know it doesn’t because your response was the sleeping emoticon.


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I thought God acted sovereignly in revival by His Spirit. How exactly would a version of the Bible cause revival?

 

[Genez]

I thought God acted sovereignly in revival by His Spirit. How exactly would a version of the Bible cause revival?

A version that is understood would cause revival.

A good evangelist would be an embodiment of a good translation, as to clear up confusion that was induced by wrong traditional thinking amongst those who simply repeat what they have become accustomed to hearing. Like Luther did to the Catholic Church.

 

[Genez]

But imagine the KJV is really God’s Word and you do not realize it.
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Not everybody is stupid.....

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Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge,​

but whoever hates correction is stupid. ​

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Proverbs 12:1​

There is nothing to imagine when it's obvious to those who do think clearly.

There is a grab for power over others with the KJV Only crowd. It's gaslighting.

Yet, the KJV has some good qualities when knowledge of God's Word is understood.

 

[Cameron143]

A version that is understood would cause revival.

A good evangelist would be an embodiment of a good translation, as to clear up confusion that was induced by wrong traditional thinking amongst those who simply repeat what they have become accustomed to hearing. Like Luther did to the Catholic Church.

I appreciate the reply, but every question isn't seeking an answer or may be directed at someone in particular to provoke thought.

 

[Genez]

I appreciate the reply, but every question isn't seeking an answer or may be directed at someone in particular to provoke thought.

In other words...I said nothing. Thanks.

 

[Cameron143]

In other words...I said nothing. Thanks.

Nope. You're just preaching to the choir.

 

[Dino246]

So you are comparing the KJV (the Bible) to other heretical religious books?

I said exactly what I meant to say. Your so-called logic can be used to defend any book.

But alas, either you have not been listening or you have taken the blue pill.

But alas, you are so blinded by your devotion to a mere translation that you can't process your own arguments rationally and instead lash out with insults when faced with disagreement and challenge.

God's Word (the KJV)

Fallacy: false equivocation. The KJV is a translation of God's word, one of a great many.

has caused three of the great revivals in our history.

Fallacy: false attribution. God Himself has brought about revivals, and in a few cases the translation most commonly used by His servants involved was the KJV.

We all still speak like the KJV today (the writing is on the wall, thorn in the flesh, a drop in the bucket, etc.).

More fallacious argumentation. We might use some quotes from the KJV, but we use quotes from Shakespeare too. Is Shakespeare now the word of God?

The KJV is the most printed book in the world.

Irrelevant.

It's positive impact has formed the Protestant English-speaking world as we know it.[/QUOTE]
Wrong. God Himself has guided His people and superintended the events of history, both secular and Christian.

No offense, but this is sort of like going full woke or being like the Leftist media which suppresses basic facts.

Don't be a jackdonkey just because you happen to dislike my challenges. Disagreeing with you does not make we "woke" or "Leftist"; it just says I'm a knowledgeable, intelligent person who isn't afraid to tell you you're full of hogwash and bad arguments.

Just try researching it on the internet for a change and maybe you will learn something significant about the history of the Bible (the KJV).

I've done plenty of research, thanks. I just don't blindly accept propaganda the way you seem to.

The problem with this line of thinking is that cult groups have actually hated the KJV and they prefer Modern Translations because they are easier to twist to their own agenda. They can pick a new Modern Bible that fits their false beliefs. Granted, this is not to say that cults cannot use the KJV, it is just that such a book has been hated by the likes of famous cult leaders in the past. I mean stop and think a moment. If an occultist says the same exact things that Christians are saying regarding the KJV in 1942, that should make you greatly concerned. But I know it doesn’t because your response was the sleeping emoticon.

The emoticon I used tells you nothing other than that I yawn at your post as a whole. Don't bother making more of a jackdonkey of yourself by assuming what I think.

 

[Genez]

Nope. You're just preaching to the choir.

Sometimes singing harmony helps to reach those you are wanting to...