The Word of God is not in your Bible.

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Dude653

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Christians reading the Bible??? OH,,NO!!!!! we cant have that!!!
 
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Ramon

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If the Word of God is not in the bible, then why do you continue to quote it as if it is?
I speak what the Lord gives me to speak.

If I did not say the words in the exact order you hear them in the KJV version of the bible, people might really think I am insane and of the devil.

And because I don't give you scripture for scripture right out of the book, with a chapter and verse leading, people say I am not speaking the Word of God.

I am speaking the word of God, because the Word of God is Spirit, and it is life. The word of God was spoken by the Spirit through Holy men, not by the interpretations of men. In the same way, what I hear, I speak.

When I speak the words in an order you are used to, you SHOULD go search and see if they are true. And you will find out that what you seek in your bible can only be found in Jesus Christ.

You will find that Jesus Christ is real, and that he can speak. And that many can't hear his voice.

I have been called speaking of the Devil many times on this site, even though I know the Lord has said it. And many who don't take that into consideration end up replying against the Lord, not me, so I am not offended at all, but rather saddened.

It was written, ''Draw nigh to me and I will draw nigh to you.'' Are you drawing nigh to him?

I did not care for the words of Paul, I cared for the Spirit that spoke through him. Jesus revealed to me himself by his Spirit, and I could not receive the spirit of another man, accept that Spirit that was in Christ was in him.

So before Romans, I was listening for the Spirit. And if Paul had not spoke by that same Spirit, I would not have received him. But he did, Amen!

May Jesus bless you.
 
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Ramon

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Just to add to this post my own thoughts... The Word of God is the Teaching of God, and the Teaching of God is the Torah of God. Christ is the Torah of God in the flesh. I don't think "Word" was a new term that suddenly arose within a Greek context from a Hebrew background. Word carries the connotation of God's words, and God gives us his words to instruct and enlighten us. Therefore his Word is Torah, and Christ is Torah in the flesh. Where can we find Torah? By the very definition of it (i.e. "Teaching") we can find it in the Old Testament and the New Testament which are in our Bibles. One should study Christ's words because they are God's Teaching given to Men. Those who reject those words found in the Bible will not even have the chance to receive eternal life.

But I think the point you want to make is that we should not be hearers of the Word alone but doers. Unless we have the Torah of God in our hearts we will not be very obedient to Christ's words.
May Jesus bless you.

A question:

What is the rejection of those words found in the bible? Is it not, not obeying them?

If those words have not found their way into your heart, and you don't obey them, then those words have fallen by the ways side, or among thorns, or among stones. But if they have found their way into a pure heart, with UNDERSTANDING, then that person ought to also bear fruit.

It is one thing to have an intellectual approach and another to have a revelation of the Word of God, and to obey.

Most people have intellectual approach, they lean to their own understanding and their own ways. This way they excuse themselves from the truth, by their interpretations. These same people resist the Holy Spirit, because he is the Spirit of Truth.

It is written:

Act 7:46 Who found favour before God, and desired to find a tabernacle for the God of Jacob.
Act 7:47 But Solomon built him an house.
Act 7:48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,
Act 7:49 Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?
Act 7:50 Hath not my hand made all these things?

Act 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.

Act 7:52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:

Act 7:53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.
Act 7:54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.
Act 7:55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
Act 7:56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

Act 7:57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,
Act 7:58 And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.
Act 7:59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.

Act 7:60 And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

There is the same resisting today.

May Jesus bless you.
 
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AnandaHya

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the question is do you allow your emotions and thoughts and experiences dictate which parts of scripture you believe or do you use Scripture to reveal the truth about what is being told to you.

How do you know the Holy Spirit is speaking to you? Do you test the spirits? what do you use to discern between good and evil?

Acts 17
10And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.

11These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

12Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few.

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
 

Dude653

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If the Word of God is not in the bible, then why do you continue to quote it as if it is?
Good point... to say the Word of God is not in the Bible, and then use the Bible to back that claim is circular reasoning.
 
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Ramon

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the question is do you allow your emotions and thoughts and experiences dictate which parts of scripture you believe or do you use Scripture to reveal the truth about what is being told to you.

How do you know the Holy Spirit is speaking to you? Do you test the spirits? what do you use to discern between good and evil?

Acts 17
10And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.

11These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

12Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few.

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
All Spirits are tested against the Spirit of God which was in Christ Jesus. If it is not like his Spirit, it is not good. If it is, it is good. The Holy Spirit speaks revelations of Jesus Christ. He tells people to turn from sin, he brings justice, and he preaches righteousness. He draws one to Jesus Christ, and to NO OTHER NAME, and NO OTHER WAY.

When men try to use any other spirit to measure between good and evil, they are more along the lines of diviners.

All men will be measured against the Spirit of Truth. All other spirits are not of God, and are not True, though all are subject to him.

So in this way, no prophecy before came by the will of men, nor the scriptures by the interpretations of men, but HOLY MEN spoke as they were lead by the Holy Ghost.

There was the Holy Spirit in a Holy man or woman, who spoke.

May Jesus bless you.
 
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AnandaHya

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Would the Holy Spirit ever contradict His written words in the Bible Ramon?
 
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Ramon

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Would the Holy Spirit ever contradict His written words in the Bible Ramon?
The Holy Spirit will ALWAYS contradict men, but never his own words. Never.

May Jesus bless you.
 
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Good point... to say the Word of God is not in the Bible, and then use the Bible to back that claim is circular reasoning.
The Word of God is Jesus Christ not the Bible. The Bible is the words of God but it is not THE Word of God who is Jesus Christ.

The Word in John 1:1 one is LOGOS which means:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


G3056
λόγος
logos
log'-os

From G3004; something said (including the thought); by implication a topic (subject of discourse), also reasoning (the mental faculty) or motive; by extension a computation; specifically (with the article in John) the Divine Expression (that is, Christ): - account, cause, communication, X concerning, doctrine, fame, X have to do, intent, matter, mouth, preaching, question, reason, + reckon, remove, say (-ing), shew, X speaker, speech, talk, thing, + none of these things move me, tidings, treatise, utterance, word, work.





It is talking about Christ not the Bible. The Bible is the words of God but Jesus Christ is THE Word (Logos) of God.
 
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prophecyman

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The Word of God is not in your bible, the word of God ought to be in you.

If you don't have the word of God in you, you are not of God.

Men love to lean to their own interpretations of the bible, because it is fit for them. It conceals their error.

The Word of God is alive, and it is not bound by men, neither in chains nor in books. The Word of God lives.

And the word of God makes you alive.

Don't lean to the interpretations of men, lean to Jesus Christ.

The Word was in the beginning with God, all things were made by him, and not anything that is made was made apart from him. He came in the flesh, but they did not receive him, neither could they hear him.

Jesus Christ is that Word of God who was made flesh, who was also in the beginning. Will you receive him? Will you hear him?

Only Jesus Christ has the words of eternal life. Any other words are not the words of eternal life. They are words of men, interpreted by the thoughts of men.

May Jesus bless you.

Daniel the understood the number of years (70) and knew the time of captivity was complete by reading the book of the prophet Jeremiah. The rich man in hell was told by father Abraham that his 5 brothers had Moses and the prophets, let them hear them. How would they hear them if Moses and the prophets were already dead? Thats right... through the written Word!
 
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The Bible is the inspired Word of God. You cannot just take that way by saying Jesus is the Word. That is false doctriine. I'm afraid you are not an elder Ramon. Every basic Christian knows the Bible is the Word of God because God inspired it and spoke it. If you cannot handle the basics Ramon you need to stop trying to teach. You are against the Bible and Church to promote your post about something else.
 
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I absolutely believe what Ramon, and Rightbelieving is saying.
But many won't see this.
 

zone

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I speak what the Lord gives me to speak.

I am speaking the word of God, because the Word of God is Spirit, and it is life. The word of God was spoken by the Spirit through Holy men, not by the interpretations of men. In the same way, what I hear, I speak.
are you claiming direct revelation from God Ramon?
are you a prophet?

is God telling you what to say? dictating?
 

leelee

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The Word of God is not in your bible, the word of God ought to be in you.

If you don't have the word of God in you, you are not of God.

Men love to lean to their own interpretations of the bible, because it is fit for them. It conceals their error.

The Word of God is alive, and it is not bound by men, neither in chains nor in books. The Word of God lives.

And the word of God makes you alive.

Don't lean to the interpretations of men, lean to Jesus Christ.

The Word was in the beginning with God, all things were made by him, and not anything that is made was made apart from him. He came in the flesh, but they did not receive him, neither could they hear him.

Jesus Christ is that Word of God who was made flesh, who was also in the beginning. Will you receive him? Will you hear him?

Only Jesus Christ has the words of eternal life. Any other words are not the words of eternal life. They are words of men, interpreted by the thoughts of men.

May Jesus bless you.
Not again! did you not already have this post about a month ago?
 
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Zone,

Do you ever hear His voice?
Or have you ever had a Revelation of The Word through The Spirit?

Blessings
 

zone

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Zone,

Do you ever hear His voice?
Or have you ever had a Revelation of The Word through The Spirit?

Blessings
i am not a pentecostal nor charismatic.
i do not hear audible voices, nor do i receive direct (new) revelation from God.
i am not a prophet.

there are no more.

the Holy Spirit illuminates a renewed mind, and teaches about Jesus, by the preaching/studying of the word.
that word is ingrafted into the heart (mind), and we continue to abide in His teachings.

what about you?
Do you ever hear His voice?
Or have you ever had a Revelation of The Word through The Spirit?
i'd like to hear of it.

zone.
 

cronjecj

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2knowhim, Ramon, RightBelieving..............

2 Tim 4:2-4 (KJV)
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
 
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LovingtheLord

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I think it's a relationship, one in which you walk with God, even as Enoch walked with God.

Genesis 5:24
And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

Genesis 6:9

These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
 

cronjecj

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I think it's a relationship, one in which you walk with God, even as Enoch walked with God.

Genesis 5:24
And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

Genesis 6:9

These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
Hi LovingtheLord,

And to walk with God you gotta have faith and faith comes from hearing of the word.
 
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I am not penecostal, charsmatic, or anything else for that matter.
Yes, I do believe I hear His voice
And as far as the Revelation of Jesus Christ I believe it is the unveiling of Him in us,
so that we come to know Him, and have Relationship with Him.

And I will Share at times that Revelation, to those who truly want to hear.
I believe The Word of God should always be new and alive, not a dead letter.
Yes, it is the illumination of The Spirit that makes it new to us.
Not new to God , It has always been the same with Him.

Blessings