There will be no Rapture!!!

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Cameron143

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Slaughtering my words and statements is not an honest handling of what I actually have said. Jabs like this are falling on ears that have heard this kind of junky nonsense before, and so please save it for those who are not better equipped to fend off such.

I welcome discussion of points, but when it starts incorporating elements of ad hominem crap like yours, that's when I tune you out.

MM
And yet, you couldn't just tune it out without announcing that you would.
 

Musicmaster

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And yet, you couldn't just tune it out without announcing that you would.
Well, sometimes the players don't realize they are skirting the line of proper rules, and must be put on notice in an attempt to keep things civil. Brow beating is an old tact that's tiring and circular.

MM
 

Cameron143

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Well, sometimes the players don't realize they are skirting the line of proper rules, and must be put on notice in an attempt to keep things civil. Brow beating is an old tact that's tiring and circular.

MM
He's sporting with you. So was I. Since you don't like it, I'll refrain. But love covers other's sins. And if you want to teach and not clang like a cymbal, it would seem love would be a necessity.
 

Musicmaster

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He's sporting with you. So was I. Since you don't like it, I'll refrain. But love covers other's sins. And if you want to teach and not clang like a cymbal, it would seem love would be a necessity.
Good point. That's why I specifically invoked "discussion of the topic" rather than jabs that gave no indication of humor.

That's the weakness of these posts...we can't see each other's facial expressions nor hear the vocal inflections in voice that would indicate the light-heartedness behind the words. It's always been a weakness in that area.

MM
 

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Revelation 3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
It's no different than Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 24 about watching for the "signs of the times."

But it doesn't give anything definitive other than we understand Pre-Wrath.
 

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From what I'm reading the war/battle of Psalm 83 might happen first because the enemies fighting in that war are the enemy countries bordering Israel. If they're taken out and Israel wins then Israel can be lulled into a false sense of “peaceful and unsuspecting” safety and not having walls. This would set it up for the Ezekiel 38 war/battle which comprises the other enemy countries that don't border Israel.

I know the US will no longer be a world power. I just don't know how it will happen. But our current government is doing what it can to make it weaker. I notice that it fully cooperates with the EU across the pond. If the US doesn't get destroyed, our weak government will probably hand the nation over to the antichrist to align us with him and we won't be able to oppose that.


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I wish to show you something Psalms 83



Psalms 83:
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The tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites; Moab, and the Hagrites;
8 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre;
9 Assyria also is joined with them


I will take these Nations mentioned and show you their modern day names.

Edom = Edom
Ishmaelites = Northern parts of Egypt
Moab = Moab
Gebal = is Phoenicia
Ammon = Ammon
Amalek = is North on map not showing
Philistia = Philistia [is modern day GAZA STRTIP]
Tyre = is North on map not showing
Assyria = Aram [IRAN]

These are the Nations that surround Israel
These are the Nations that fought when Israel tried to become a Nation, when Jerusalem was reassigned capitol of Israel, and they are once again all forming an alliance towards Israel.

But this time is different than before. Because even [Allies] of Israel are telling Israel not to do this and that. So all of the Nations are slowly turning against Israel.

I will also add Iran has now itself officially attacked Israel.
 

Musicmaster

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It's no different than Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 24 about watching for the "signs of the times."

But it doesn't give anything definitive other than we understand Pre-Wrath.
I don't know if you've ever seen this guy, but I've watched Steven Anderson's videos, with him pounding the pulpit for added emphasis when his points were weak and groundless. When someone dared stand up to try and inject discussion with him in order to probe the unscriptural points he was making at the time, he resorted to demanding that the one daring to question him if that guy wanted to teach in his place, which was not at all something Steven was going to allow in the first place. Anderson can't handle discussion or debate. He only wants to sermonize his people into conformity.

Now, as to Revelation 3:3, please elaborate. I made a specific point from that text and its context, none of which points to pre-wrath for His coming for the Church that I can see.

Thanks

MM
 

FollowerofShiloh

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I don't know if you've ever seen this guy, but I've watched Steven Anderson's videos, with him pounding the pulpit for added emphasis when his points were weak and groundless. When someone dared stand up to try and inject discussion with him in order to probe the unscriptural points he was making at the time, he resorted to demanding that the one daring to question him if that guy wanted to teach in his place, which was not at all something Steven was going to allow in the first place. Anderson can't handle discussion or debate. He only wants to sermonize his people into conformity.

Now, as to Revelation 3:3, please elaborate. I made a specific point from that text and its context, none of which points to pre-wrath for His coming for the Church that I can see.

Thanks

MM
Not a fan of Anderson myself. He's a JOKE!

You're stating we can gage when the Rapture appears.
And the Gospels + Chapters I posted are Jesus words to His Disciples explaining the same thing.
 

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I don't know if you've ever seen this guy, but I've watched Steven Anderson's videos, with him pounding the pulpit for added emphasis when his points were weak and groundless. When someone dared stand up to try and inject discussion with him in order to probe the unscriptural points he was making at the time, he resorted to demanding that the one daring to question him if that guy wanted to teach in his place, which was not at all something Steven was going to allow in the first place. Anderson can't handle discussion or debate. He only wants to sermonize his people into conformity.

Now, as to Revelation 3:3, please elaborate. I made a specific point from that text and its context, none of which points to pre-wrath for His coming for the Church that I can see.

Thanks

MM
At least we agree on Steven Anderson! (y)
 

Musicmaster

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Not a fan of Anderson myself. He's a JOKE!

You're stating we can gage when the Rapture appears.
And the Gospels + Chapters I posted are Jesus words to His Disciples explaining the same thing.
I still don't understand your disagreement on the basis of what you posted and think the meaning entails, but it is what it is.

Thanks

MM
 

FollowerofShiloh

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I still don't understand your disagreement on the basis of what you posted and think the meaning entails, but it is what it is.

Thanks

MM
I am not disagreeing. We will be able to see the signs.

In fact, here's a sign. This was a few months ago. Satanism + Abortion used to be hush hush together but in Women's Cosmopolitan Satanists are helping women perform a Satanic Ritual and they posted in a magazine billions of people read.

Satanic abortion ritual:
First, you find a quiet space. Bring a mirror if you can. Just before taking the medication, gaze at your reflection and focus on your personhood. Home in on your intent, your responsibility to you.

Take a few deep, relaxing breaths. When you’re ready, read the following tenet aloud:
One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.

Take the medication and immediately afterward, recite, Beliefs should conform to one’s best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one’s beliefs.

Later, once your body expels the aborted tissue, return to your reflection.
Focus again on your personhood, your power in making this decision. Complete the ritual by reciting a personal affirmation: By my body, my blood; by my will, it is done.
 

Cameron143

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So THAT'S how you racked up so many post counts...little ditties like this throughout. :)

Got it.

MM
It's hard for people to believe of the great joy there is in salvation if you can't convey it in your manner. You may be saved, but somebody forgot to tell your face.
 

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It's hard for people to believe of the great joy there is in salvation if you can't convey it in your manner. You may be saved, but somebody forgot to tell your face.
Your post made me recall the most virulent put-down in all of elementary school: "Your face is stupid."
 

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Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

- 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 (KJV)
It's funny (sad really) that most know about the "antichrist", but not the apostacy. Paul put them both on an equal footing.