There's a Counterfeit Christianity in the Modern Church

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Blackpowderduelist

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How to know the real church from the counterfeit.
They have the Holy things of God.
Jesus, and his word, and the things instituted by Jesus; baptism as he commanded his Apostles when he turned over his earthly ministry to them. Go make disciples, baptising them in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost.
The Lord's Supper as instituted by Jesus where by he said this is my body take and eat, and this is the new covenant in my blood take and drink.
And absolution of sin where by he told his disciples, what so ever sins you forgive they are forgiven, and what so ever sins you retain they are retained in Heaven.
This is the true church. Not dress right and look appropriate, say the right things and be good by outward appearances, or any other such poppycock.
 
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Edify

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It's sad how a man of God, now deceased, is judged by somebody that never knew him. It makes me wonder how such people would judge a true counterfeit preacher because most of them don't wear suits. Some of them will step on their stages wearing a faded t-shirt, blue jeans, sneakers, while wearing a Rolex. They are true people pleasers who always remember to smile & remind their people that Jesus loves them. They never talk about sin, but they always trys to modernize any Bible subject they 'preach' about to wow their congregation. They are always on cue, & follow the instructions of their director. They seek to please their producers too, you know, the "board" that financed their 'ministry' in the first place. The richer counterfeit preachers who takes an up-and-coming young charismatic guy & make him a household name in 6 months. Just like the lawers of the NT, they make their 'convert' a two-fold child of Hell than themselves. They have to do this every so many years to try & convince the up-coming-generation of 'believers' that the counterfeit gospel they're preaching will make them happy & cause them to give generously.

It's my belief that there's more counterfeit christians than true ones. There has to be, because there's more counterfeit preachers/teachers/prophets out there than ever before. Somebody's filling up their mega churches, paying their salaries & buying their private jets.

And then there's this scripture in the Bible where Jesus taught: Matthew 7:13“Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easya that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. 14For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.

What we couldn't be made to believe years ago is that a huge amount of that "many" would be counterfeit christians being deceived by Satan during the Falling Away.
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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Edify said:
It's sad how a man of God, now deceased, is judged by somebody that never knew him. It makes me wonder how such people would judge a true counterfeit preacher because most of them don't wear suits. Some of them will step on their stages wearing a faded t-shirt, blue jeans, sneakers, while wearing a Rolex. .
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Still on about clothes?
How I judge a true teacher vs a counterfeit? Simple enough. I gave the answer above. They read the scriptures and expound via exegesis. Not make up false standards, and spew made up doctrines, about how people appear. Every crooked politician and lawyer on earth wears a suit and tie, so that's no standard. The Bible gives us the standards. Read Paul's letters to Timothy, and the letter to Titus.
It is a sin from hell to judge a man based on materialistic appearances.
Maybe your man in the video could have gotten to the word of God in the 15 minutes rather than lambasted young folks for their clothes and music, and 17 minutes before he got to scripture. When he does he mis-characterizes what is there. You only have to go back one chapter to know what it means that many believed him. See what is written.
When they heard these words, some of the people said, “This really is the Prophet.” Others said, “This is the Christ.” But some said, “Is the Christ to come from Galilee? Has not the Scripture said that the Christ comes from the offspring of David, and comes from Bethlehem, the village where David was?” So there was a division among the people over him. Some of them wanted to arrest him, but no one laid hands on him.
John 7:40‭-‬44 ESV

So these many who believed him, believed what he had said, but were not converted, they believed him but not in him. There is a difference, they questioned whether he was the Christ. Its when Jesus began to convict them of sin they stopped believing what he was saying because they believed in their pedigree, they were the offspring of Abraham. So they had no repentance. They couldn't believe that they were condemned in their sin.
Repentance is to know you are convicted of sin, and to trust Christ for forgiveness, in his mercy. This is Salvation.

So in short these Jews, were believing what Jesus was saying, and questioning as to whether he is the Christ, until he began to convict them of sin. Then because they couldn't accept conviction, they had no repentance, and therefore were not saved.
They weren't fake Christians. They never believed in salvation through Christ. They believed salvation through pedigree, through flesh.
 
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Edify

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I know what it's like growing up with a one-track mindset of how everything works, believing certain people only do certain things. I grew up like that in a racist household that didn't think black people were equal with the rest.

But you know what I've learned?
  1. They were wrong.
  2. Racism attitudes transcend beyond the color of skin. There's people out there that snub their noses at poor people, & poor people that do the same with rich people. They have a locked-in mentality that stereotypes people into inferior groups and they never learn the truth beyond that. They are conceited, & refuse to change.
It's sad, really because there's some decent people out there that could become so much more in Christ if they weren't respecter of persons & treated all people for whom Jesus died equally.
 
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