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trofimus

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What you are failing to realize is the EURO's value is about to totally collapse, causing the EU to fail. So the question is, what will replace it? Most likely a Dictatorship, by one they erroneously trust, and invite to RULE over the Revived Roman Empire:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FQmMmKaOb8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpC3UKjCM-E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y5ZjXwPxGU.


Perhaps that is the Silver Tongued Devil, that will be invited to Rule to Save their economies.
There is the EU and then there is the eurozone. They are not the same.

Not all countries of EU are in the eurozone. My country does not use euros, for example.

Also, euro is not to fall in a near future. Euro has higher value than the american dollar has and is also backed up by a stronger economy and GDP.

Even if euro falls, it does not mean the EU must fall. It would only return before the year 2004 or so.

Even if the EU as such will fall, it does not mean there must immediatelly come some dictatorship instead of it.
 
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There is the EU and then there is the eurozone. They are not the same.

Not all countries of EU are in the eurozone. My country does not use euros, for example.

Also, euro is not to fall in a near future. Euro has higher value than the american dollar has and is also backed up by a stronger economy and GDP.

Even if euro falls, it does not mean the EU must fall. It would only return before the year 2004 or so.

Even if the EU as such will fall, it does not mean there must immediatelly come some dictatorship instead of it.

How many Countries are currently in the EuroZone?


I am 1/4 Bohemian, and I grew up going to Chech festivals.
 
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There are Jews starting to Understand the TEMPLE BELONGS IN THE CITY OF DAVID.
Have a pen and tablet ready if you want copy down the Verses in the BIBLE that prove the TEMPLE belongs in the Gihon Springs area of the CITY OF DAVID. He is a Messianic Jewish Bible Teacher.

2 Chronicles 3:1 (NJB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Solomon then began building the house of Yahweh in Jerusalem* on Mount Moriah where David his father had had a vision—on the site which David had prepared—on the threshing-floor of Ornan the Jebusite. *{Modern Day Jerusalem city limits, is some 600 feet further North than North Gate of the TEMPLE in Jerusalem of Bible times, Placing this Threshing Floor location in what is now the City of David. That threshing floor is one of the discoveries the Archeologists think they have positively Identified. WHY is all this Important? Messianic Jews believe that the Temple has to be rebuilt before Yeshua Ha Mashiach can RETURN.}


[video=youtube;IONLPq64FIs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IONLPq64FIs[/video]


Ezekiel 46:20-24 (ASV)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] And he said unto me, This is the place where the priests shall boil the trespass-offering and the sin-offering, and where they shall bake the meal-offering; that they bring them not forth into the outer court, to sanctify the people.
[SUP]21 [/SUP] Then he brought me forth into the outer court, and caused me to pass by the four corners of the court; and, behold, in every corner of the court there was a court.
[SUP]22 [/SUP] In the four corners of the court there were courts inclosed, forty cubits long and thirty broad: these four in the corners were of one measure.
[SUP]23 [/SUP] And there was a wall round about in them, round about the four, and boiling-places were made under the walls round about.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] Then said he unto me, These are the boiling-houses, where the ministers of the house shall boil the sacrifice of the people.
Ezekiel 47:1-2 (ASV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] And he brought me back unto the door of the house; and, behold, waters issued out from under the threshold of the house eastward; (for the forefront of the house was toward the east;) and the waters came down from under, from the right side of the house, on the south of the altar. {Two handy sources of Running Water, plus the Gihon Springs was in the TEMPLE TOO.}
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Then he brought me out by the way of the gate northward, and led me round by the way without unto the outer gate, by the way of the gate that looketh toward the east; and, behold, there ran out waters on the right side.

LISTEN TO THIS TEACHER as he explains why the JEWS were required to use LIVING WATER, that is running water from a brook or spring, for cleansing during the Sacrifice Services. The so-called TEMPLE MOUNT where the Dome of the Rock is, NEVER HAD ANY LIVING (RUNNING) WATER.
 

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Having said that, the antichrist becomes known after the Rapture...

Where on God's green earth did you get that idea?


2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 (HCSB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to Him: We ask you, brothers,
[SUP]2 [/SUP] not to be easily upset in mind or troubled, either by a spirit or by a message or by a letter as if from us, alleging that the Day of the Lord has come.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way. For ⌊that day⌋ will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction. {PERIOD. There is NO "AND" making verse 4 a mandatory requirement prior to our gathering together to HIM.}
[SUP]4 [/SUP] He opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits in God’s sanctuary, publicizing that he himself is God.


With Cable News we will see him revealed the MINUTE he makes Headline News at any event, especially when he is running for office. In fact he may have been revealed already. Nigel Farage, U.K. Representative at the E.U., may have exposed the Political Movement that is trying to take over the E.U., and whoever is the Leader of the Political Movement, may very well prove to be the Antichrist, Ruling the Revived Roman Empire. That Political movement is headed towards driving several other Countries towards choosing to LEAVE THE E.U. Will it dwindle down to only 10 Nations in it's final form? Probably!

[video=youtube;SJzRa7HWVqs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJzRa7HWVqs[/video]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epjELzWGGyM


You said: "PERIOD. There is NO "AND" making verse 4 a mandatory requirement prior to our gathering together to HIM."
In addition to revelation4-6, one will see the CHurch is gone before the antichrist is revealed.


2 thes 2 1-8,,,,7,8),"7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:"


It will be better to read 1-8.
 

Bladerunner

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Not if it's the anti-Christ being worshiped by Christians.

The evidence that supports it being a physical temple is when Lord Jesus warns the people in Judea to flee to the mountains, which indicates that it's going to be in Jerusalem.


OK??????????
 

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Yes in all four of the gospels, he did allude to that fact.... However, he also alluded to the fact that as Daniel the Prophet had stated, the Abomination of Desolate would happen in the Holies of Holy (i.e like 167 BC) again and it did not happen in 70 AD>.....The temple burnt

SO---the temple has to be rebuilt so that it can happen.
 

Bladerunner

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Actually Jesus did not say temple.
In Mat. 24:15 Jesus said "standing in the holy place".
In Mar. 13:14 Jesus said "standing where it ought not".

The temple worship was done away with when Jesus was crucified.
The Jews may very well build a new temple, but I do not see God recognizing it as a holy place.

But the abomination of desolation will definitely stand only where God should stand.
Only God is to be worshiped.

Oh my where did you get all that gulp!

Jesus did not have to say the temple since the Holy of Holies is in the Temple and only one person (high priest) can go into it and then only once per year. When the Temple was destroyed in 70AD (by Burning), there was no AoD and the Jews then had no place to get rid of their sins. Thus Talmudic Judaism was born in order to relieve them of sins.

Why would not god recognize it as a Holy Place..... If he is going to sit in it, It is a Holy Place.

Yes, your right about where the AoD will happen and that my friend starts the 2nd half of daniel's 70th week or the Great Tribulations spoken of by Jesus in Matthew 24.


 

Bladerunner

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Here is a clue. God is not a Man as us and there is no infallible interpreter in the flesh as a mediator between God and Man that the scriptures identify as a daysman . God is not a man as us Never was never could be. God has no beginning and therefore remains without a mother and father or end of Spirit life.

It was a one time demonstration of the Spirit and of power: not the actual unseen work, not to be repeated over and over, crucifying Christ again and a again to public shame .

The promise was that Christ said he would come once in the corrupted flesh which he said could not profit flesh, not twice. or multiple times .( We walk by faith, the eternal not seen )

2Jo 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

No promise to come again in the flesh

The props he used to show it, the buildings and furniture used to set the stage have been rendered useless when the veil was rent the demonstration of the lamb of God slain from the foundation was made known. Why would some one want to crucify Him by giving another demonstration as if he was a man as us ?

2Co 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

Show us a verse that would give us the truth that he will re appear in the flesh and the reason using the scriptures.


WOW,,,lighten up on the smokes a little????? Maybe you can see reality then
 

trofimus

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How many Countries are currently in the EuroZone?


I am 1/4 Bohemian, and I grew up going to Chech festivals.

19 of 28 EU countries use euro.

Nice :)
 

trofimus

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I am 1/4 Bohemian, and I grew up going to Chech festivals.
Have you been to the Czech republic lately?

If you would like to visit it, you can send me a message. I can show you Prague or help with something.
 
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Oh my where did you get all that gulp!

Jesus did not have to say the temple since the Holy of Holies is in the Temple and only one person (high priest) can go into it and then only once per year. When the Temple was destroyed in 70AD (by Burning), there was no AoD and the Jews then had no place to get rid of their sins. Thus Talmudic Judaism was born in order to relieve them of sins.

Why would not god recognize it as a Holy Place..... If he is going to sit in it, It is a Holy Place.

Yes, your right about where the AoD will happen and that my friend starts the 2nd half of daniel's 70th week or the Great Tribulations spoken of by Jesus in Matthew 24.


Are you saying that the Jews continued to "get rid of their sins" at the Temple?
Surely you know better.
When they rejected Jesus, there was/is no forgiveness of sin.
 

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You said: "PERIOD. There is NO "AND" making verse 4 a mandatory requirement prior to our gathering together to HIM."
In addition to revelation4-6, one will see the CHurch is gone before the antichrist is revealed.


2 thes 2 1-8,,,,7,8),"7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let {HE WHO ONLY LETS SATAN GO SO FAR.}, until He {THE HOLY SPIRIT} be taken out of the way. {<--THE CALLING OUT OF THE BRIDE.} 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:"


It will be better to read 1-8.
I added some of my comments in BLUE on your posted verses, just to show you what I absolutely with my whole heart believe it is talking about. We may see the Antichrist who is controlled ultimately by Satan, {A Dictator controlling the ten nation Confederacy, all which were once part of the ROMAN EMPIRE OF OLD}, running for Office Peacefully; but I believe we will be CALLED TO THE WEDDING IN HEAVEN of the LAMB to HIS BRIDE, the ASSEMBLY HE HAS BUILT, before we SEE HIM ACTUALLY ELECTED TO RUN THAT REVIVED ROMAN EMPIRE.

THE END OF VERSE 7, IS THE RAPTURE, to be FOLLOWED BY HIS SECOND COMING, as much as Seven Years later. The AND THEN is a reference to what happens after we and Holy SPIRIT are called to the WEDDING OF THE LAMB in Heaven, which is followed by the WEEK LONG {probably a WEEK OF YEARS} WEDDING CEREMONY, and the FINAL NIGHT IS the MARRIAGE FEAST; THEN THE VERY NEXT MORNING, CHRIST RETURNS TO MAKE WAR ON THE NATIONS, AND TAKES OUT THE BEAST {A Satan controlled Dictator} and the False Prophet {Leader of the Emporer Worship False Religion}, casting them both into the LAKE OF FIRE, and LOCKING SATAN UP in the Bottomless Pit for a THOUSAND YEARS.

If you need the rest of the verses, PLEASE GO BACK AND RE-READ all of my posts, as I am growing TIRED of re-posting them everytime someone else asks the same question, or posses the same twisted logic to a verse's interpretation. My first post on this thread is on page 2., post #22.
 
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Have you been to the Czech republic lately?

If you would like to visit it, you can send me a message. I can show you Prague or help with something.
No, I never got over there, and now on my retirement pension, I can't afford to go. WILL CHECK IT OUT in His Millenial Kingdom. :) Yeah, I learned to dance to Polkas too. :)
 

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You said: "PERIOD. There is NO "AND" making verse 4 a mandatory requirement prior to our gathering together to HIM."
In addition to revelation4-6, one will see the CHurch is gone before the antichrist is revealed.


2 thes 2 1-8,,,,7,8),"7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:"


It will be better to read 1-8.

2 Thessalonians 2:8 (NASB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming;


2 Thessalonians 2:8 (GWT)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] Then the man of sin will be revealed and the Lord Jesus will destroy him by what he says. When the Lord Jesus comes, his appearance will put an end to this man.


2 Thessalonians 2:8 (NCV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] Then that Man of Evil will appear, and the Lord Jesus will kill him with the breath that comes from his mouth and will destroy him with the glory of his coming.

2 Thessalonians 2:8 (NLT)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] Then the man of lawlessness will be revealed, but the Lord Jesus will kill him with the breath of his mouth and destroy him by the splendor of his coming.

2 Thessalonians 2:8 (TLB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] Then this wicked one will appear, whom the Lord Jesus will burn up with the breath of his mouth and destroy by his presence when he returns.

2 Thessalonians 2:8 (MSG)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] But the time will come when the Anarchist will no longer be held back, but will be let loose. But don't worry. The Master Jesus will be right on his heels and blow him away. The Master appears and—puff!—the Anarchist is out of there.



I guess it just depends on which version you are looking at.
 

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Are you saying that the Jews continued to "get rid of their sins" at the Temple?
Surely you know better.
When they rejected Jesus, there was/is no forgiveness of sin.
Yes,,, until 70AD when the Holy City and the temple are destroyed, the messianic Jews practiced animal sacrifice for abolition of their sins. WHen they were destroyed, they had no way to remove their sins so the Talmud became into being.

Keep in mind persuaded that these were Jews who did not accept Jesus Christ simply because they wanted a warrior king who would remove the Romans from their backs. Jesus did not do this thus they killed him for declaring HE was the Messiah Nagid.

To date, they have not solved the problem. Rem, they have been blinded and like so many on this forum, they cannot see no matter what is told to them. God would not allow it.

If you will look at Isaiah 28:15..
"15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:"

The whole verse is the Jewish leaders are talking to God and telling him what they have done and He tell them that it really is not going to help.. The whole scenario is Isaiah 28:14-20

This is a prophecy of the covenant the Antichrist will confirm (enforce) with the Jewish leaders as one party and "Death and HELL" (i.e. rev. 6:8)as the other. Death meaning 'death of the body' and Hell meaning 'death of the Soul'

They will re-institute the animal sacrifices once the temple is built. Yes, it is to no avail as one can not get to heaven under the law (ones own works). God will not stop them because it is prophesied that the antichrist will stop this practice himself and go back on the covenant he made with them. It will be during this time period that he will stand in the Holy of Holies and declare He is GOD!.

For all to see......HOW------AH----on FOX NEWS of Course!

 

trofimus

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No, I never got over there, and now on my retirement pension, I can't afford to go. WILL CHECK IT OUT in His Millenial Kingdom. :) Yeah, I learned to dance to Polkas too. :)
Oh, yeah,.. that millenial kingdom thing... :)
 
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Yes,,, until 70AD when the Holy City and the temple are destroyed, the messianic Jews practiced animal sacrifice for abolition of their sins. WHen they were destroyed, they had no way to remove their sins so the Talmud became into being.

Keep in mind persuaded that these were Jews who did not accept Jesus Christ simply because they wanted a warrior king who would remove the Romans from their backs. Jesus did not do this thus they killed him for declaring HE was the Messiah Nagid.

To date, they have not solved the problem. Rem, they have been blinded and like so many on this forum, they cannot see no matter what is told to them. God would not allow it.

If you will look at Isaiah 28:15..
"15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:"

The whole verse is the Jewish leaders are talking to God and telling him what they have done and He tell them that it really is not going to help.. The whole scenario is Isaiah 28:14-20

This is a prophecy of the covenant the Antichrist will confirm (enforce) with the Jewish leaders as one party and "Death and HELL" (i.e. rev. 6:8)as the other. Death meaning 'death of the body' and Hell meaning 'death of the Soul'

They will re-institute the animal sacrifices once the temple is built. Yes, it is to no avail as one can not get to heaven under the law (ones own works). God will not stop them because it is prophesied that the antichrist will stop this practice himself and go back on the covenant he made with them. It will be during this time period that he will stand in the Holy of Holies and declare He is GOD!.

For all to see......HOW------AH----on FOX NEWS of Course!

I'm pretty sure the covenant with death was the old covenant.
 
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Yes,,, until 70AD when the Holy City and the temple are destroyed, the messianic Jews practiced animal sacrifice for abolition of their sins. WHen they were destroyed, they had no way to remove their sins so the Talmud became into being.

Keep in mind persuaded that these were Jews who did not accept Jesus Christ simply because they wanted a warrior king who would remove the Romans from their backs. Jesus did not do this thus they killed him for declaring HE was the Messiah Nagid.

To date, they have not solved the problem. Rem, they have been blinded and like so many on this forum, they cannot see no matter what is told to them. God would not allow it.

If you will look at Isaiah 28:15..
"15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:"

The whole verse is the Jewish leaders are talking to God and telling him what they have done and He tell them that it really is not going to help.. The whole scenario is Isaiah 28:14-20

This is a prophecy of the covenant the Antichrist will confirm (enforce) with the Jewish leaders as one party and "Death and HELL" (i.e. rev. 6:8)as the other. Death meaning 'death of the body' and Hell meaning 'death of the Soul'

They will re-institute the animal sacrifices once the temple is built. Yes, it is to no avail as one can not get to heaven under the law (ones own works). God will not stop them because it is prophesied that the antichrist will stop this practice himself and go back on the covenant he made with them. It will be during this time period that he will stand in the Holy of Holies and declare He is GOD!.

For all to see......HOW------AH----on FOX NEWS of Course!

Yes, the Jews continued to offer animal sacrifices, but God no longer accepted their sacrifices.
The had rejected the Messiah.
Also, when Jesus died on the cross, the Temple worship system (animal sacrifices) were no longer acceptable to God.
That is why I said that If the Jews rebuild a "Temple" and once again institute the Temple worship system, God will have no part in it because it is a continued rejection of the Messiah.
The Man of Sin does not have to set himself up in a rebuilt Jewish "Temple" to place himself in a "holy place" or "where he ought not" as Jesus said.
When he demands to be worshiped as God, he has fulfilled that prophecy.