THIRD TEMPLE NEWS

[VCO]

Now that is enough evidence to make the MOST hard nosed Skeptics to believe the TOP of the HILL was Built for, or by the literal ROMAN X LEGION, to build the entire so-called Temple Complex for themselves on TOP OF THE HILL. NOW WHAT PROOF DO YOU HAVE, that the Temple Complex was built on top of the HILL. Only HEAR SAY EVIDENCE! The Sanhedrin, Had to VOTE on where the TEMPLE WAS, and WHERE MT. ZION WAS, because they did not know for sure, where either were, in 1212, after being in exile for over a Thousand Years. The Temple was on the Lower HILL of the Mt. Zion, and the Mt. Moriah was the NAME OF THE WHOLE RIDGE, and Mt. Zion was the Middle Peak.

 

[VCO]

NOTICE: the Shadows on floor, nearest to you, and then look at the Lack of Shadows on the rest of the floor. That tells me it was about 9:00, why? Before 9:00 the east wall would have cast a shadow across the Exits on the north. I think it had too be between June 11, 1967 and June 16, 1967; the Only Days the Israeli Government was in charge of the Dome of the Rock.

 

[VCO]

NEW Photo, and one NEW possible discovery:

 

[VCO]

Does Anybody know How Large a three Story building with every kind of Shop imaginable, seems to JOSEPHUS. He was quite literally mesmerized. While talking about Fortress Antonia, he make this statement.

Flavius Josephus
War of the Jews
Book 5
Chapter 5
Section 8

. . .
all the space of the tower of Antonia itself was built upon, to the height of forty cubits. The inward parts had the largeness and form of a palace, it being parted into all kinds of rooms and other conveniences, such as courts, and places for bathing, and broad spaces for camps; insomuch that, by having all conveniences that cities wanted, it might seem to be composed of several cities, but by its magnificence it seemed a palace. And as the entire structure resembled that of a tower, it contained also four other distinct towers at its four corners; whereof the others were but fifty cubits high; whereas that which lay upon the southeast corner was seventy cubits high, that from thence the whole temple might be viewed; but on the corner where it joined to the two cloisters {Covered Walkways down to the lower Hill} of the temple, it had passages down to them both, through which the guard (for there always lay in this tower a Roman legion) went several ways among the cloisters, with their arms, on the Jewish festivals, in order to watch the people, that they might not there attempt to make any innovations; for the temple was a fortress that guarded the city, as was the tower of Antonia a guard to the temple; and in that tower were the guards of those three (14). There was also a peculiar fortress belonging to the upper city, which was Herod's palace; but for the hill Bezetha, it was divided from the tower Antonia, as we have already told you; and as that hill on which the tower of Antonia stood was the highest of these three,
https://www.biblestudytools.com/history/flavius-josephus/war-of-the-jews/book-5/chapter-5.html

OBVIOUSLY THE TEMPLE WAS ON A LOWER HILL. Why all the Shops the Troops and Support Personnel, could be had in one place, Fortress Antonia? It was ROMAN LAW, that the TROOPS and Support Personnel COULD NOT SPEND A SINGLE COIN IN A JEWISH SHOP.

 

[VCO]

Look what I just FOUND in the Possible Stair Case from the Roman X Legion Stables to the Barracks one flight up:


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. WOW, WOW! I have NEVER SEEN THIS BEFORE, if that Staircase is the staircase from the Stable to the Second FLOOR, THIS IS THE TILE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THAT WALL GOING UP TO THE SECOND FLOOR. That is the ROMAN X Cavalry SIGNITURE, and I have absolutely HAVE NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER. Thank You JESUS, that is the BEST PROOF, I have Found. The Highest HILL belongs exclusively to the ROMAN X LEGION, just as JOSEPHUS Said.

 

[VCO]

Yes every brick of the Temple was to be destroy, in 70 AD, including the Walls.

 

[Komentaja]

We do not need another temple

That does not mean there will not be another one

Prophecy says there will be another temple. A temple in which the antichrist will commit an abomination of desolation in. Also the same temple where our lord will rule the world in

What prophesy? Where for the love of God do we find a prophecy of another temple in the NT after Jesus completed redemption for all peoples?

One would have to twist and reshape the scriptures to add a temple that neither the Lord nor the apostles ever promised much less prophesied about? And please do not quote the OT. Doing so would make the new irrelevant because the new explains and fulfills the old. [/QUOTE]
Very correct, has anyone thought about 2 thessalonians 2:2-4 potentially being the temple of God, US, the people, the church? Kenneth Copeland already proclaimed to be God, as did many of his followers.

 

[MISSION-IMPOSSIBLE]

What prophesy? Where for the love of God do we find a prophecy of another temple in the NT after Jesus completed redemption for all peoples?

One would have to twist and reshape the scriptures to add a temple that neither the Lord nor the apostles ever promised much less prophesied about? And please do not quote the OT. Doing so would make the new irrelevant because the new explains and fulfills the old.

Very correct, has anyone thought about 2 thessalonians 2:2-4 potentially being the temple of God, US, the people, the church? Kenneth Copeland already proclaimed to be God, as did many of his followers.[/QUOTE]

The temple of 2 Thes. was the temple of Herod that waited to be destroyed in A.D. 70.

 

[VARob]

Kenneth Copeland already proclaimed to be God, as did many of his followers.

Citation needed...

 

[Komentaja]

Citation needed...

Google it

Many word of faith preachers do it. One even got on stage and said "I am god!" and then egged on the audience to say it as well "REPEAT AFTER ME". These devils are something else.

 

[VCO]

Google it

Many word of faith preachers do it. One even got on stage and said "I am god!" and then egged on the audience to say it as well "REPEAT AFTER ME". These devils are something else.

We ALL KNOW the word of faith Preachers are the Counterfeit False Preachers, that Paul and others warned us about. Sounds like you just discovered it, most of us have know that for Decades.

AND ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE OFF THE MAIN TOPIC, which is News From Israel, about the Third TEMPLE, what they are planning to do about it, and the Wars and Fighting that HINDER THE PROGRESS.

PLEASE, one of you start your own Thread to continue this, and Do Not Highjack This TREAD.

James 1:20 (NASB)
20 for the anger of man does not achieve the righteousness of God.

 

[VCO]

I edited the picture to include the Cloisters (covered walkways) that Josephus said the EAST WALL had just outside it. I improved the Gate Entrances on the South side of the Fortress Antonia, put a better Picture of a rock formation on the east side, and edited one of my comments. To make it better. It it a stitch together from different artists, with my comments. I was frustrated, that NO ARTIST was Picture, what I learned from Josephus, especially the Length of the dual Colonnades running down hill from southwest corner of Fortress Antonia to the northwest of the TEMPLE Complex. Josephus said the distance from wall to wall, was a STADE, which is approximately 600 feet. Some say where is that south west, extension of the southern wall of Fortress Antonia? It is my understanding that part of the southern wall that extends south and to the west of the Al-Aqsa Mosque, was built by the Ottoman Empire.

 

[VCO]

I missed an error in Post #2,966, the Yellow framed text block up top. It should read It is the West side of Fortress Antonia.

Sorry.

 

[VCO]

Here is something interest, I know the Tower of Antonia was destroyed in an earthquake, and never rebuilt. I have often wondered why nobody was looking for it's remnants? Turns out Someone already did, and found it. Sir Charles Warren, had discovered it, but discounted the importance of it, because the discovery of the Warren's Shaft, seemed way more important at that time.

But now that we understand that the so-called Temple Mount was 36 acre or more on top of Mariah, was none other than the Fortress Antonia, makes the Tower of Antonia much more important. Here is part of the Article that I just READ:

QUOTE:

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During her 2009-2010 Ophel excavation, Dr. Mazar continued to excavate the giant wall extending from the gatehouse. This was no regular wall. It was 70 meters long, 3 meters wide, and in some sections measured 6 meters high. During the 2009-2010 dig (and then again during the 2012 dig), Dr. Mazar was able to accurately date the wall to the 10th century b.c.e.

Together, the dating of construction and its massive size indicated that it was built by a centralized and powerful government. “The city wall that has been uncovered testifies to a ruling presence. Its strength and form of construction indicate a high level of engineering,” Mazar wrote, attesting to the biblical account of Solomon’s powerful reign.

Based on the long, dead-straight nature of the wall (officially named the “Straight Wall”) and the way it was situated between two parallel “towers” at each end (the “Large Tower” and the “Great Projecting Tower”), Dr. Mazar also wondered if this was a section of the wall referred to as Miktsoa in Nehemiah 3:25.

She wrote: “Now that we knew that the Straight Wall was built together with the rest of the fortified complex, we could not help remembering Nehemiah 3:25, which seems to refer to this very wall. This verse describes two structures, one as an extension of the other: the Large Tower and the ‘Miktsoa,’ meaning the straight line formed between two sides. No structure fits this description better than the Straight Wall.”

Discovery Three: Great Projecting Tower
In 2012, Dr. Mazar and her team continued to excavate adjacent north. During this phase, Mazar uncovered the north end of the Straight Wall. Digging in the same area, she unearthed another large wall, one that connected to the Straight Wall and ran perpendicular. This wall ran to the east, underneath the Ophel Road, as with the Large Tower.

This structure was apparently another exceptionally large tower, although it was in a much worse state of preservation. Dr. Mazar concluded that this tower dated to at least the same period as the Straight Wall (given that the wall is built against it). Not much of this tower, sitting beneath the road (and also beneath a Byzantine tower), was able to be revealed. Dr. Mazar named it the “Great Projecting Tower” based on Nehemiah 3:27, which describes this as the next identifiable feature along the wall after the Water Gate, Projecting Tower and Miktsoa of verses 25-26.
:END QUOTE.

That Tower is most critical, in proving the entire top of Mt. Moriah was FORTRESS ANTONIA.

 

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[VCO]

I was just starring at the picture directly above, and SOMETHING JUMPED OUT AT ME. Scary Isn't It! But wait till you hear what jumped out.

See the South wall of the Al-AQSA Mosque in the small picture with in the larger picture. Follow the white line going to the right till you get to the Corner. That is the Southeast corner of the so Called Temple-Mount, which is actually Fortress Antonia. That Drawing was where the Archaeologist's was Plotting where he found artifacts or foundations.

So what does that mean. That means the TOWER OF ANTONIA could be a Fifth Tower, not connected to the Fortresses Main Four Towers.

Southeast corner on the so-called Temple Mount.

It was Built Closer to the TEMPLE ON PURPOSE, so they could see what was going on in the TEMPLE. I never dreamed The Tower of Antonia could be on the OPHEL, Yet we have a TALL TOWER THERE. I am not sure, but I highly suspect that is the true Tower of Antonia.

If that proves to be the Tower of Antonia, it had to be Taller of the TEMPLE ROOF, so they could see what was going on there. With No supporting walls, it could have been easy to topple during that earthquake, and why it was never rebuilt. See the foundation where the arrow point to, following the sign that says: Tower of Antonia? Could that be the foundation of that TOWER?


See where I think the TEMPLE is. I must admit, it could be there, and to my knowledge, no one has looked there, OR, it could be a build a building width or two South of there. BUT NEVER FURTHER NORTH. Yes the Second Temple and Ancient Jerusalem was totally Destroyed, in 70 AD. But remnants of the First Temple, could be found.

 

[VCO]

That Double Gate on the South Wall, is just behind that wall, created by the Muslims, just to the left of that Crooked yellow arrow. They also walled up all the gates on the south wall, leaving only their gate to Al-Aqsa Mosque. Apparently an earthquake destroyed it too, and why they never rebuild it, is unknown by me.

 

[VCO]

OH MY ! ! !


Could this be the remnants of the collapsed Tower of Antonia ? ? ?
Temple was Southwest of that spot.


Inside the Yellow Line, could be the Foundation of the TOWER OF ANTONIA?
Inside the Green line, could be the Foundation of the 6th Tower, the TOWER OF UZZIAH?
This the Archaeologists will have to Check Out, very Carefully. If that Checks Out, the
City of David, will Jump for Joy, as the TEMPLE can be VERIFIED is on the Southwest Corner
of the OPHEL.

 

[VCO]

So why the Tower of Uzziah was important? My guess is Army to South, might try to attack Jerusalem by coming up the Kidron Valley? The full attention was the Tower of Antonia's responsibility, for internal rebellion of the Zealot Jews. Very dangerous times.

 

[RizenPhoenix]

THIRD TEMPLE - Has to be built on the site of Solomon's TEMPLE

Matthew 24:2 (ESV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] But he answered them, “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.”

So how was that Prophecy about the TEMPLE from JESUS, FULFILLED to the LETTER? Contrary to popular belief, Solomon's Temple was not on what the JEWS today call the TEMPLE MOUNT; and there is a lot more to the Story than just the damage done by the ROMAN'S in 70 A.D.


In addition to the Roman destruction of the TEMPLE, the Macabean King Simon, ordered the real TEMPLE MOUNT in what is now called the City of David, but was then at the time of Christ, the original location of Jerusalem; TURNED INTO A ROCK QUARRY. He did that because of what the Romans did in 70 A.D., saying even the Rock base was therefore DEFILED on the original Temple Mount. Macabeans removed several meters of rock and used it to fill in the Valley to the South, making a fairly level road coming in from the South to Jerusalem. That distance from the Southern Wall of Fort Antonia to the TEMPLE is only a difference of about 400 ft. to the south of what is today the city limits of Jerusalem.

The Dome of the Rock is in the CENTER of Fort Antonia.

On the Left is the South Wall in the Southeast corner, that is the property line for Jerusalem, South of that Wall is now the City of David. The silverish domed Mosque would be the Southwest corner of Fort Antonia, in this lower Picture.

See that big tree in the Olive grove left of the silver colored steel dome, it may be the one that is the oldest Olive Trees in Israel. At least I think that is the tree they were talking about. It would be about the Northwest corner of the TEMPLE OUTER WALL. See that turn in the road going to the right towards that big tree. To the left of that intersection is good size building with what looks like a bell tower. THAT BUILDING MAY BE SITTING ON THE ORIGINAL LOCATION OF SOLOMON'S TEMPLE. Somebody has to move the road, however the Palestinians have no claim to land south of that silver dome.

The Archeologists, and one of them is an Israelite, have been seeking an audiance with the Israeli Government, and the Temple Institute, and getting NO RESPONSE. They think it is because they have a very big, bitter pill to swallow, in admitting they have been praying at the WRONG WALL all these years. The Archeologists are convinced they can PROVE the Whaling Wall is actually only part of Fort Antonia.

Here is the Video the Archeologists recently put on You Tube:

NEWEST VIDEO Proving the TEMPLE WAS IN THE
CITY OF DAVID, South Just Outside JERUSALEM.
Video published June 18th, 2017

[video=youtube;kJpuw5-33y0]

I see no reason to question where the temple mount is located per the Middle Easterners who have been apart of the story all their life. We have also had many scientist from every expertise there and it is not disputed. So, why speculate on that any further. Now, as far as the temple being rebuilt, from my examination of the Bible for 30 years is will not because that is not longer God presence. The New Jerusalem is not a literal temple because if it would man would have to build it into the sky which is not likely since The Tower of Babel was taken down due to it's arrogance. The people of Israel and the Vatican have ancient maps that we will never see. They know where the temple mount was... Let's just go with it.