THIRD TEMPLE NEWS

[Dave-L]

I've had that one on ignore for a while now. It seems to be the best way to avoid the endless argument.
I will not tolerate that supersessionist theology. It's a dangerous folly.
If the dire warnings directly from the Apostle Paul in Romans 11 aren't enough to convict him, what chance do I have?

You end up rejecting Christ and his blood on the cross, sacrificing animals instead. Having traded Christianity for Judaism in the form of Premillennialism and Dispensationalism. Unless you stick with the historic Church that condemned those persuasions as heresy.

“For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.” Hebrews 6:4–6 (KJV 1900)

 

[Dave-L]

You are right.
I've had that one on ignore for a while now. It seems to be the best way to avoid the endless argument.
I will not tolerate that supersessionist theology. It's a dangerous folly.
If the dire warnings directly from the Apostle Paul in Romans 11 aren't enough to convict him, what chance do I have?

“For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.” Hebrews 6:4–6 (KJV 1900)

Premillennialism and Dispensatio9nalism end here with their third temple. Trading Jesus and his blood for animals and Judaism.

 

[Absolutely]

Pure baloney.
Your craziness is so unchristlike and endless policing of other believers.

Then sourcing the bible in cunning cowardice to make it appear you are representing the king

 

[Dave-L]

Pure baloney.
Your craziness is so unchristlike and endless policing of other believers.

Then sourcing the bible in cunning cowardice to make it appear you are representing the king

You are judging me of not speaking the truth in love. When my motive is to keep you from traveling a long road that ends in embracing Judaism rejecting Christ and his blood. Which many already do, thinking the "third temple" will replace it.

 

[VCO]

“For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.” Hebrews 6:4–6 (KJV 1900)

Premillennialism and Dispensatio9nalism end here with their third temple. Trading Jesus and his blood for animals and Judaism.

Yes, your logic is PURE BALONEY, meaning it is NOT BIBLICAL, like Absolutely already told you.

DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY THOSE WHO ONLY TASTED THE WORD OF GOD, WERE NEVER REAL BELIEVERS ? ? ?

Well, I WILL TELL YOU ANYHOW.

TRUE BELIEVERS NEVER DID STOP WITH THE WORD IN THEIR MOUTH so they can TASTE IT,
THEY CONSUMED IT INTO THEIR HEART, WHICH IS THE HUMAN SPIRIT. SO THEY NEVER HAD SALVATION IN THE FIRST PLACE TO LOSE.

Deuteronomy 30:14 (NJB)
14 No, the word is very near to you, it is in your mouth and in your heart for you to put into practice.

Psalm 119:11 (HCSB)
11 I have treasured Your word in my heart so that I may not sin against You.

Romans 10:8 (ESV)
8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim);

Hebrews 4:12 (ESV)
12 For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.

Luke 8:15 (HCSB)
15 But the seed in the good ground—these are the ones who, having heard the word with an honest and good heart, hold on to it and by enduring, bear fruit.

No, true BELIEVERS consume the word and it will bear fruit, while Phony Christians only tasted the Word.

 

[Dave-L]

Yes, your logic is PURE BALONEY, meaning it is NOT BIBLICAL, like Absolutely already told you.

DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY THOSE WHO ONLY TASTED THE WORD OF GOD, WERE NEVER REAL BELIEVERS ? ? ?

Well, I WILL TELL YOU ANYHOW.

TRUE BELIEVERS NEVER DID STOP WITH THE WORD IN THEIR MOUTH so they can TASTE IT,
THEY CONSUMED IT INTO THEIR HEART, WHICH IS THE HUMAN SPIRIT. SO THEY NEVER HAD SALVATION IN THE FIRST PLACE TO LOSE.

Deuteronomy 30:14 (NJB)
14 No, the word is very near to you, it is in your mouth and in your heart for you to put into practice.

Psalm 119:11 (HCSB)
11 I have treasured Your word in my heart so that I may not sin against You.

Romans 10:8 (ESV)
8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim);

Hebrews 4:12 (ESV)
12 For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.

Luke 8:15 (HCSB)
15 But the seed in the good ground—these are the ones who, having heard the word with an honest and good heart, hold on to it and by enduring, bear fruit.

No, true BELIEVERS consume the word and it will bear fruit, while Phony Christians only tasted the Word.

This has nothing to do with a third temple. And insults further lead me to believe you cannot defend your position. As I said, a third temple rejects Christ and his atonement for sin on the cross. And replaces it with Talmudic Judaism, as bad as it gets, and animal sacrifices. This is an unforgivable sin according to Hebrews 6. Even if it never happens, those who believe a "biblical" third temple will exist, already reject Christ in their hearts.

 

[miknik5]

It applies to a third temple too where "Christians" trade Jesus and his shed blood for a pagan temple and animal sacrifice. This is a similar sin to Hebrews 6. When the early Hebrew "Christians" were warned not to return to Judaism which cannot be repented from.

Also, consider the biblical physical temple cannot be built because the dimensions are incomplete. Only God can build it and he tells us the Church and Jesus are the temple made without hands. You must deny this and add to his words to build a physical temple. = major sin.

Also, consider only the born again can see the present kingdom. That's why the Pharisees rejected Christ and still look for their millennial kingdom. So third temple talk is placing Phariseeism above Christ and the Church.

They were never christians then...never

 

[miknik5]

It applies to a third temple too where "Christians" trade Jesus and his shed blood for a pagan temple and animal sacrifice. This is a similar sin to Hebrews 6. When the early Hebrew "Christians" were warned not to return to Judaism which cannot be repented from.

Also, consider the biblical physical temple cannot be built because the dimensions are incomplete. Only God can build it and he tells us the Church and Jesus are the temple made without hands. You must deny this and add to his words to build a physical temple. = major sin.

Also, consider only the born again can see the present kingdom. That's why the Pharisees rejected Christ and still look for their millennial kingdom. So third temple talk is placing Phariseeism above Christ and the Church.

I, as a CHRISTIAN, do not deny this...but I, as a believing CHriSTIAN, who has a part in CHRIST´s MINiSTRY, know that unbelieving Hebrews/Jews do not understand and THINK they need a physical temple, and will INDEED build a physical temple, and will INDEED be given the okay to build, complete, and reinstate their temple practices, and I, as a believing CHRISTIAN, know that many believing CHRISTIANS, will testify that what they do is wrong, and will INDEED be killed for their testimony....

 

[miknik5]

This has nothing to do with a third temple. And insults further lead me to believe you cannot defend your position. As I said, a third temple rejects Christ and his atonement for sin on the cross. And replaces it with Talmudic Judaism, as bad as it gets, and animal sacrifices. This is an unforgivable sin according to Hebrews 6. Even if it never happens, those who believe a "biblical" third temple will exist, already reject Christ in their hearts.

Will you be bold enough to tell your older brother this if the time comes for you to do so?

 

[Dave-L]

Will you be bold enough to tell your older brother this if the time comes for you to do so?

It's there for any to read and become my brother/sister.

 

[Dave-L]

I, as a CHRISTIAN, do not deny this...but I, as a believing CHriSTIAN, who has a part in CHRIST´s MINiSTRY, know that unbelieving Hebrews/Jews do not understand and THINK they need a physical temple, and will INDEED build a physical temple, and will INDEED be given the okay to build, complete, and reinstate their temple practices, and I, as a believing CHRISTIAN, know that many believing CHRISTIANS, will testify that what they do is wrong, and will INDEED be killed for their testimony....

Hebrews 6 says reverting to Judaism = rejecting Christ and is beyond repentance and cannot be forgiven. And this is presently the midset of most calling themselves "Christians". If you do it in your heart thinking it will happen, you've already done it. Is this the great apostasy Paul warned of?

 

[Dave-L]

They were never christians then...never

Do you recall Jesus said only the born again can see the Kingdom of God. Where does this leave those still looking for it? Thinking it failed to arrive during the time of the Roman Empire and is yet future as the physical kingdom the Pharisees believed it is to be?

 

[miknik5]

Do you recall Jesus said only the born again can see the Kingdom of God. Where does this leave those still looking for it? Thinking it failed to arrive during the time of the Roman Empire and is yet future as the physical kingdom the Pharisees believed it is to be?

Please explain this verse in Revelation 11..
Thank you...

And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

 

[Dave-L]

Please explain this verse in Revelation 11..
Thank you...

And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

Revelation cannot be understood if taken literally. Green horses? Red Dragons? A woman clothed with the sun?

The Church is the temple of God, made without hands.

The two witnesses = the Church. The outer court = the tares among them.

The setting is the New Covenant era. And their death and resurrection on the last day. After the loosing of Satan in Revelation 20.

11:15 = New Heavens and Earth.

 

[VCO]

What is the size of the Tabernacle of David, compared to the TEMPLE ? ? ?

Here is a Jewish TEACHING tool of the Taberacle:

And here it is with the cut away view so we can see inside:

Not a lot of Room inside the Tabernacle.

Much More Room in the TEMPLE.


Here is the official, remake of the Menorah:

All of the Temple Artifact have been already remade.

 

[Dave-L]

What is the size of the Tabernacle of David, compared to the TEMPLE ? ? ?

Here is a Jewish TEACHING tool of the Taberacle:

And here it is with the cut away view so we can see inside:

Not a lot of Room inside the Tabernacle.

Much More Room in the TEMPLE.


Here is the official, remake of the Menorah:

All of the Temple Artifact have been already remade.

The big problem is the dimensions for Ezekiel's Temple are incomplete. So it would be sinning if anyone tried to build it. They would need to ADD to God's word. Also, it would be a complete rejection of Christ whom the Temple symbolized.

I believe this is part of the great apostasy Paul warns about in the end times. It essentially rejects Christ in a return to Talmudic Judaism which Christ condemned in person. Also, Hebrews 6 says it is a sin that cannot be repented of nor be forgiven.

 

[garee]

The big problem is the dimensions for Ezekiel's Temple are incomplete. So it would be sinning if anyone tried to build it. They would need to ADD to God's word. Also, it would be a complete rejection of Christ whom the Temple symbolized.

I believe this is part of the great apostasy Paul warns about in the end times. It essentially rejects Christ in a return to Talmudic Judaism which Christ condemned in person. Also, Hebrews 6 says it is a sin that cannot be repented of nor be forgiven.

By assuming there are right dimensions it only opens the opportunity of those who number time or people that men are quick to fill in be filled in by those of the number, measuring thing seen by the things seen . And not the golden measure of faith hid in parables.

2 Corinthians 10:12 For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.

Again we use the golden measure a metaphor used in parables that hide the unseen measure of faith .Like the number of the bride 144,000 redeemed by the lamb. We walk by faith and are not of the number (sign seeker )

Revelation 21:15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.

1000 = a unknown (144,000)

The bride of Christ from the beginning using Abel the first recorded martyr was used as a temple. God in him working with mankind to both will and perform His good pleasure..

God brought out of Egypt a mixer of believers and un belief to signify the faithless, Christ-less world. And as a display or gospel to the world.

He gave them a "temporal tabernacle" that wandered with them until the last day of the 40 year time period the end of the "one time 40 year demonstration" .


They were like us the temple but the atheist Jew. No god in their heart as fools became Jealous of the surrounding pagan nation and there religious foundation out of sight out of me mind (no faith) .

God gave them over until the time of reformation.(1 st century)

Outside of the temporal display of the gospel to the world when the Israelites where in the desert 40 years as ambassadors for Christ. No need to look at the temporal corrupted rather than walking by faith .

The prompt to build another temple is missing like it was the first time (Kings in Israel the great rebellion' like never before or ever again ) .

Showing temples built with human hands are the abomination of desolation. A Place that even the Son of man would not stand in.

Why build abomination of desolation even knowing we are the temple always have been .In the new heavens and earth there will be no temples.

Those that are hoping another demonstration is needed to the whole world all nations . Get your self filled with the glory of temples while the supply lasts and call it a wonderment..

 

[miknik5]

Revelation cannot be understood if taken literally. Green horses? Red Dragons? A woman clothed with the sun?

The Church is the temple of God, made without hands.

The two witnesses = the Church. The outer court = the tares among them.

The setting is the New Covenant era. And their death and resurrection on the last day. After the loosing of Satan in Revelation 20.

11:15 = New Heavens and Earth.

Sir...everyone (born of HIS SPIRIT) who reads these literal descriptions understands its spiritual meaning...

 

[Dave-L]

Sir...everyone (born of HIS SPIRIT) who reads these literal descriptions understands its spiritual meaning...

Not necessarily. You cannot see the Kingdom of God unless born again. This is why so many seek a physical kingdom of the future.

 

[miknik5]

The big problem is the dimensions for Ezekiel's Temple are incomplete. So it would be sinning if anyone tried to build it. They would need to ADD to God's word. Also, it would be a complete rejection of Christ whom the Temple symbolized.

I believe this is part of the great apostasy Paul warns about in the end times. It essentially rejects Christ in a return to Talmudic Judaism which Christ condemned in person. Also, Hebrews 6 says it is a sin that cannot be repented of nor be forgiven.

It would be sinning based on Haggai 2 for ANYONE to even think to begin laying even one stone