THIRD TEMPLE NEWS

[tanakh]

Any physical temple is always built by people. God himself made only one temple - Church.


Its only one view that it is about antichrist. It could also be about Romans and what they did.
Also, it was written before the second temple was destroyed, it is not about third.


Exactly. Thats why they are irrelevant. They can built whatever they want, it is not of our interest.

Only believing Jews are relevant. And they are Christians.

Christ was talking to his disciples and their generation. What would be the point in warning them to flee from something that wouldnt happen for a couple of thousand years? In any case the Abomination according to Luke are armies not some statue in a Temple. The Holy place can just as well be Jerusalem itself that the Romans flattened not long after 70AD. Christians there at the time understood that Christ was warning them and escaped. Pity people today are still waiting for something that has already happened.

 

[valiant]

Christ was talking to his disciples and their generation. What would be the point in warning them to flee from something that wouldnt happen for a couple of thousand years? In any case the Abomination according to Luke are armies not some statue in a Temple. The Holy place can just as well be Jerusalem itself that the Romans flattened not long after 70AD. Christians there at the time understood that Christ was warning them and escaped. Pity people today are still waiting for something that has already happened.

True, but how tame. Nothing to argue about. No fantastic theories to build up

 

[VCO]

Christ was talking to his disciples and their generation. What would be the point in warning them to flee from something that wouldnt happen for a couple of thousand years? In any case the Abomination according to Luke are armies not some statue in a Temple. The Holy place can just as well be Jerusalem itself that the Romans flattened not long after 70AD. Christians there at the time understood that Christ was warning them and escaped. Pity people today are still waiting for something that has already happened.

Pity you do not believe the WORD OF GOD LITERALLY. You have to water it down, and change it's meaning to make it fit anything that happened before.


Zechariah 14:1-21 (HCSB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] A day of the LORD is coming when your plunder will be divided in your presence.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle. The city will be captured, the houses looted, and the women raped. Half the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be removed from the city.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Then the LORD will go out to fight against those nations as He fights on a day of battle.
[SUP]4 [/SUP] On that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which faces Jerusalem on the east. The Mount of Olives will be split in half from east to west, forming a huge valley, so that half the mountain will move to the north and half to the south.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] You will flee by My mountain valley, for the valley of the mountains will extend to Azal. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the LORD my God will come and all the holy ones with Him.
[SUP]6 [/SUP] On that day there will be no light; the sunlight and moonlight will diminish.
[SUP]7 [/SUP] It will be a day known ⌊only⌋ to Yahweh, without day or night, but there will be light at evening.
[SUP]8 [/SUP] On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half of it toward the eastern sea and the other half toward the western sea, in summer and winter alike.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] On that day Yahweh will become King over all the earth—Yahweh alone, and His name alone.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] All the land from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem will be changed into a plain. But ⌊Jerusalem⌋ will be raised up and will remain on its site from the Benjamin Gate to the place of the First Gate, to the Corner Gate, and from the Tower of Hananel to the royal winepresses.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] People will live there, and never again will there be a curse of complete destruction. So Jerusalem will dwell in security.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] This will be the plague the LORD strikes all the peoples with, who have warred against Jerusalem: their flesh will rot while they stand on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] On that day a great panic from the LORD will be among them, so that each will seize the hand of another, and the hand of one will rise against the other.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Judah will also fight at Jerusalem, and the wealth of all the surrounding nations will be collected: gold, silver, and clothing in great abundance.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] The same plague as the previous one will strike the horses, mules, camels, donkeys, and all the animals that are in those camps.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Then all the survivors from the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, and to celebrate the Festival of Booths.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Should any of the families of the earth not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, rain will not fall on them.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] And if the people of Egypt will not go up and enter, then rain will not fall on them; this will be the plague the LORD inflicts on the nations who do not go up to celebrate the Festival of Booths.
[SUP]19 [/SUP] This will be the punishment of Egypt and all the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Festival of Booths.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] On that day, ⌊the words⌋ HOLY TO THE LORD will be on the bells of the horses. The pots in the house of the LORD will be like the sprinkling basins before the altar.
[SUP]21 [/SUP] Every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah will be holy to the LORD of Hosts. Everyone who sacrifices will come and take some of the pots to cook in. And on that day there will no longer be a Canaanite in the house of the LORD of Hosts.

 

[VCO]

For those that saw it:

WOW, the Prayers offered up this morning at the USS Gerald R. Ford Commissing Ceremony, set back the Anti-Christian movements in the USA three or four Decades!

 

[Jackson123]

Christ was talking to his disciples and their generation. What would be the point in warning them to flee from something that wouldnt happen for a couple of thousand years? In any case the Abomination according to Luke are armies not some statue in a Temple. The Holy place can just as well be Jerusalem itself that the Romans flattened not long after 70AD. Christians there at the time understood that Christ was warning them and escaped. Pity people today are still waiting for something that has already happened.

hard to say,is It for that generation ?

the Bible warn about second coming 2000 years ago, and always say I am coming soon.

 

[VCO]

Is this the "let's post conspiracy theories" thread? Wild speculation for sure.

Also, God doesn't use hydrogen bombs.

Chapter and Verse PLEASE.

2 Peter 3:8-9 (ASV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] But forget not this one thing, beloved, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some count slackness; but is longsuffering to you-ward, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hosea 10:10 (GWT)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] “I will punish them when I'm ready. Armies will gather to attack them. They will be punished for their many sins.


Jeremiah 49:14 (NCV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] I have heard a message from the LORD. A messenger has been sent among the nations, saying, “Gather your armies to attack it!Get ready for battle!“


Isaiah 43:14-15 (NCV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] This is what the LORD, who saves you, the Holy One of Israel, says: “I will send armies to Babylon for you, and I will knock down all its locked gates. The Babylonians will shout their cries of sorrow.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] I am the LORD, your Holy One, the Creator of Israel, your King.“


THEREFORE GOD DOES TO USE ARMIES OF THIS WORLD TO CARRY OUT HIS WILL. I ASK YOU AGAIN, "HOW DO YOU KNOW GOD WILL NOT USE THE NUKES OF MODERN DAY ARMIES TO CARRY OUT HIS WILL."


Saddam Hussein's Vacation Palace at the City of Babylon.

NOTICE IN THE BACKGROUND BELOW, THAT THE SOWERS HAVE BEEN BUSY IN THEIR FIELDS, AND NOTICE THE STREET LIGHTS ON THE ROAD. Notice the field on the left before you get to the Irrigation Pond, looks like a hay field already cut, waiting for the Bailer to bail the hay. YEAH, I am a born and raised farm boy. And in the distance, I see several more Farm Buildings and fields. NO THE PROPHECY WAS NOT ALREADY FULFILLED, IT IS YET TO BE FULFILLED.

NOTICE THE TRAILER HOUSES AND CAMPERS IN THE TREES, Below.

WE ARE NOT DONE FIGHTING IN IRAQ, an even BIGGER WAR. YOU DO NOT CAMP EVEN FOR ONE NIGHT ON GROUND THAT IS RADIO-ACTIVE.

Jeremiah 50:9-46 (HCSB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] For I will soon stir up and bring against Babylon an assembly of great nations from the north country. They will line up in battle formation against her; from there she will be captured. Their arrows will be like those of a skilled warrior who does not return empty-handed.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] The Chaldeans will become plunder; all Babylon’s plunderers will be fully satisfied. ⌊This is⌋ the LORD’s declaration.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] Because you rejoice, because you sing in triumph— you who plundered My inheritance— because you frolic like a young cow treading grain and neigh like stallions,
[SUP]12 [/SUP] your mother will be utterly humiliated; she who bore you will be put to shame. Look! She will lag behind all the nations— a dry land, a wilderness, an Arabah.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Because of the LORD’s wrath, she will not be inhabited; she will become a desolation, every bit of her. Everyone who passes through Babylon will be horrified and scoff because of all her wounds.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Line up in battle formation around Babylon, all you archers! Shoot at her! Do not spare an arrow, for she has sinned against the LORD.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] Raise a war cry against her on every side! She has thrown up her hands ⌊in surrender⌋; her defense towers have fallen; her walls are demolished. Since this is the LORD’s vengeance, take out your vengeance on her; as she has done, do the same to her.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Cut off the sower from Babylon as well as him who wields the sickle at harvest time. Because of the oppressor’s sword, each will turn to his own people, each will flee to his own land.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Israel is a stray lamb, chased by lions. The first who devoured him was the king of Assyria; the last one who crushed his bones was Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] Therefore, this is what the LORD of Hosts, the God of Israel, says: “I am about to punish the king of Babylon and his land just as I punished the king of Assyria.
[SUP]19 [/SUP] I will return Israel to his grazing land, and he will feed on Carmel and Bashan; he will be satisfied in the hill country of Ephraim and of Gilead.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] In those days and at that time— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— one will search for Israel’s guilt, but there will be none, and for Judah’s sins, but they will not be found, for I will forgive those I leave as a remnant.
[SUP]21 [/SUP] “Go against the land of Merathaim, and against those living in Pekod. Put them to the sword; completely destroy them— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— do everything I have commanded you.
[SUP]22 [/SUP] The sound of war is in the land— a great destruction.
[SUP]23 [/SUP] How the hammer of the whole earth is cut down and smashed! What a horror Babylon has become among the nations!
[SUP]24 [/SUP] Babylon, I laid a trap for you, and you were caught, but you did not even know it. You were found and captured because you fought against the LORD.
[SUP]25 [/SUP] The LORD opened His armory and brought out His weapons of wrath, because it is a task of the Lord GOD of Hosts in the land of the Chaldeans.
[SUP]26 [/SUP] Come against her from the most distant places. Open her granaries; pile her up like mounds of grain and completely destroy her. Leave her no survivors.
[SUP]27 [/SUP] Put all her young bulls to the sword; let them go down to the slaughter. Woe to them, because their day has come, the time of their punishment.
[SUP]28 [/SUP] “⌊There is⌋ a voice of fugitives and those who escape from the land of Babylon announcing in Zion the vengeance of the LORD our God, the vengeance for His temple.
[SUP]29 [/SUP] Summon the archers to Babylon, all who string the bow; camp all around her; let none escape. Repay her according to her deeds; just as she has done, do the same to her, for she has acted arrogantly against the LORD, against the Holy One of Israel.
[SUP]30 [/SUP] Therefore, her young men will fall in her public squares; all the warriors will perish in that day. ⌊This is⌋ the LORD’s declaration.
[SUP]31 [/SUP] Look, I am against you, you arrogant one— ⌊this is⌋ the declaration of the Lord GOD of Hosts— because your day has come, the time when I will punish you.
[SUP]32 [/SUP] The arrogant will stumble and fall with no one to pick him up. I will set fire to his cities, and it will consume everything around him.”
[SUP]33 [/SUP] This is what the LORD of Hosts says: Israelites and Judeans alike have been oppressed. All their captors hold them fast; they refuse to release them.
[SUP]34 [/SUP] Their Redeemer is strong; Yahweh of Hosts is His name. He will fervently plead their case so that He might bring rest to the earth but turmoil to those who live in Babylon.
[SUP]35 [/SUP] A sword is over the Chaldeans— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— against those who live in Babylon, against her officials, and against her sages.
[SUP]36 [/SUP] A sword is against the diviners, and they will act foolishly. A sword is against her heroic warriors, and they will be terrified.
[SUP]37 [/SUP] A sword is against his horses and chariots and against all the foreigners among them, and they will be like women. A sword is against her treasuries, and they will be plundered.
[SUP]38 [/SUP] A drought will come on her waters, and they will be dried up. For it is a land of carved images, and they go mad because of terrifying things.
[SUP]39 [/SUP] Therefore, desert creatures will live with hyenas, and ostriches will also live in her. It will never again be inhabited or lived in through all generations.
[SUP]40 [/SUP] Just as God demolished Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring towns— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— so no one will live there; no human being will even stay in it as a temporary resident. {No one camps on radio-active ground.}
[SUP]41 [/SUP] Look! A people comes from the north. A great nation and many kings will be stirred up from the remote regions of the earth.
[SUP]42 [/SUP] They grasp bow and javelin. They are cruel and show no mercy. Their voice roars like the sea, and they ride on horses, lined up like men in battle formation against you, Daughter Babylon.
[SUP]43 [/SUP] The king of Babylon has heard reports about them, and his hands fall helpless. Distress has seized him— pain, like a woman in labor.
[SUP]44 [/SUP] “Look, it will be like a lion coming from the thickets of the Jordan to the watered grazing land. Indeed, I will chase Babylon away from her ⌊land⌋ in a flash. I will appoint whoever is chosen for her. For who is like Me? Who will summon Me? Who is the shepherd who can stand against Me?”
[SUP]45 [/SUP] Therefore, hear the plans that the LORD has drawn up against Babylon and the strategies He has devised against the land of the Chaldeans: Certainly the flock’s little lambs will be dragged away; certainly the grazing land will be made desolate because of them.
[SUP]46 [/SUP] At the sound of Babylon’s conquest the earth will quake; {VIA NUKES, most likely.} a cry will be heard among the nations.

 

[VCO]

hard to say,is It for that generation ?

the Bible warn about second coming 2000 years ago, and always say I am coming soon.

DAY TWO is not even over year, be patient:


2 Peter 3:8-9 (ASV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] But forget not this one thing, beloved, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some count slackness; but is longsuffering to you-ward, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

 

[Zen]

Horses, bows, swords. These are the weapons mentioned in the bible.

Not planes, tanks and nukes.

God says "plague", so it must mean nuclear explosion? Really?

God says His people will renew their energy and soar, so it must mean fighter jet? Really?

Don't vehicles need to refuel?

 

[Muzungu256]

Horses, bows, swords. These are the weapons mentioned in the bible.

Not planes, tanks and nukes.

God says "plague", so it must mean nuclear explosion? Really?

God says His people will renew their energy and soar, so it must mean fighter jet? Really?

Don't vehicles need to refuel?

then what do u suggest??????? what did these things mean?????

 

[Zen]

then what do u suggest??????? what did these things mean?????

I suggest that faith in God is so weak that people don't understand that they can take Him literally.

God's Word is not a jigsaw puzzle. You can't just keep trying to fit words over scripture and see if they stick.

It's pretty normal for a person to wonder if God's Word is relevant when it mentions horses in the 21st century.

'But we don't use horses, we use tanks and jets'

But look:

Wicked enemies of God using swords and horses.

Deuteronomy 24:8
Take heed in the plague of leprosy, that thou observe diligently, and do according to all that the priests the Levites shall teach you: as I commanded them, so ye shall observe to do.

Why don't you believe that God will use an actual plague, like He did many times in the bible, and insisting on people being burned with nuclear weapons? When God turned mount Babylon black, did He send nuclear weapons back in time to burn it?

Jeremiah 51:25
Behold, I am against thee, O destroying mountain, saith the Lord, which destroyest all the earth: and I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and roll thee down from the rocks, and will make thee a burnt mountain.

Your argument is that God has used people to punish other people before, so it must be true all the time, and that God couldn't punish people these days with a plague, it has to be a metaphor for a weapon.

Isaiah 40:[SUP]31 [/SUP]But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.

Tanks and jets don't wait for God, and they also need refueling. Jets don't run or walk.

And also, what if this verse is describing the new body that believers will receive? Incorruptible bodies that don't tire. Aren't angels supposed to have wings? And besides, even if it's not referring to new bodies, hasn't God always lifted us up to renew our strength?

 

[VCO]

Horses, bows, swords. These are the weapons mentioned in the bible.

Not planes, tanks and nukes.

God says "plague", so it must mean nuclear explosion? Really?

God says His people will renew their energy and soar, so it must mean fighter jet? Really?

Don't vehicles need to refuel?

I REPEAT, the Prophets frequently like JOHN, were given visions and they were doing their best to interpret what they were seeing, and I wouldn't expect them to describe modern warfare in any other terms than they did.

Does the BIBLE describe a coming Nuclear War?

I believe is does, but we get glimpses of it from several places in Prophecy. When we look at the whole picture, all of a sudden, we begin to see a massive war that has not happened yet, and it's end result can only be explained as a full scale Nuclear War. This is a war that HAS TO HAPPEN prior to the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. My understanding of Biblical Prophecy is that while we are this side of the event, we can only make educated guesses at how it will all play out; HOWEVER, once the event has happed, it will absolutely fit the Prophecies perfectly. From the verses that I will show you, it is looking like this current War with ISIS, could lead to that unfulfilled War in Prophecy, that goes NUCLEAR.

The attack point of this War ultimately will aim at Israel, and Enemies still come from Syria, Iran, and Iraq, and Jordan gets caught in the middle, and thus they too suffer the devastation. If nukes are fired at Israel from any of those countries that I just mentioned, Israel with their Patriot missile batteries, will do their very best to knock them down before they cross their borders. That would cause many of them to fall in southern and western Jordan.

Isaiah 40:31 (HCSB)
[SUP]31 [/SUP] but those who trust in the LORD will renew their strength; they will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary; they will walk and not faint.

ISRAELI JETS DO HAVE EAGLES ON THEIR PLANES

MECHANIZED INFANTRY

THE DEAD GIVEAWAY THAT THEY ARE DESCRIBING FUTURE WARFARE, IS THE RESULTS OF THAT WARFARE THAT HAVE NEVER HAPPENED.

Isaiah 13:17-20 (HCSB)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Look! I am stirring up the Medes{Iran} against them, who cannot be bought off with silver and who have no desire for gold.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] ⌊Their⌋ bows will cut young men to pieces. They will have no compassion on little ones; they will not look with pity on children.
[SUP]19 [/SUP] And Babylon {Iraq}, the jewel of the kingdoms, the glory of the pride of the Chaldeans, will be like Sodom and Gomorrah when God overthrew them.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] It will never be inhabited or lived in from generation to generation; a nomad will not pitch his tent there, and shepherds will not let ⌊their flocks⌋ rest there.

Isaiah 34:6-10 (HCSB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] The LORD’s sword is covered with blood. It drips with fat, with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams. For the LORD has a sacrifice in Bozrah, a great slaughter in the land of Edom.
{Edom is Southern Jordan}
[SUP]7 [/SUP] The wild oxen will be struck down with them, and young bulls with the mighty bulls. Their land will be soaked with blood, and their soil will be saturated with fat.
[SUP]8 [/SUP] For the LORD has a day of vengeance, a time of paying back ⌊Edom⌋ for its hostility against Zion.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] ⌊Edom’s⌋ streams will be turned into pitch, her soil into sulfur; her land will become burning pitch.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] It will never go out—day or night. Its smoke will go up forever. It will be desolate, from generation to generation; no one will pass through it forever and ever.

Isaiah 17:1-3 (NKJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] The burden against Damascus. "Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city,And it will be a ruinous heap.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] The cities of Aroer are forsaken; They will be for flocks Which lie down, and no one will make them afraid.
{The area of Aroer would be the area northeast of Jerusalem in Jordan, where the main city would be Phildelphia (Amman), Jordan.}
[SUP]3 [/SUP] The fortress also will cease from Ephraim, The kingdom from Damascus, And the remnant of Syria; They will be as the glory of the children of Israel," Says the LORD of hosts.


Does ISRAEL remain unscathed in this possibly soon to be Nuclear War. NO, but out of the devastation comes the good news of Jews turning to Christ, and that leads to the Second Coming of our LORD.


Ezekiel 12:19-20 (HCSB)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Then say to the people of the land: This is what the Lord GOD says about the residents of Jerusalem in the land of Israel: They will eat their bread with anxiety and drink their water in dread, for their land will be stripped of everything in it because of the violence of all who live there.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] The inhabited cities will be destroyed, and the land will become a desolation. Then you will know that I am Yahweh.”

Zechariah 14:11 (HCSB)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] People will live there, and never again will there be a curse of complete destruction. So Jerusalem will dwell in security.

 

[VCO]

I suggest that faith in God is so weak that people don't understand that they can take Him literally.

God's Word is not a jigsaw puzzle. You can't just keep trying to fit words over scripture and see if they stick.

It's pretty normal for a person to wonder if God's Word is relevant when it mentions horses in the 21st century.

'But we don't use horses, we use tanks and jets'





Wicked enemies of God using swords and horses.

. . .

YES WE STILL USE TO HORSE TO MEASURE THE POWER OF OUR MODERN DAY CALVERY.

The M1 series tank is equipped with a 1500 horsepower Lycoming Textron gas turbine engine.



NOT ONLY THAT, LOOK AT THE SHOULDER PATCH OF MODERN DAY 1st CALVARY UNITS,
And Other Calvary Units

CAV ON THEIR VEHICLES STANDS FOR CALVARY

AND LOOK AT THEIR PARADE HATS:

AND YES THEY STILL TRAIN ON HORSES, MOSTLY FOR PARADES AND CEREMONIES.

 

[Zen]

Tank engines are measured in horsepower, therefore they are horses?
Jets have pictures of birds painted on them, therefore they are birds?



Why are you using HCSB? Why did you substitute Isaiah 17:1-3 (HCSB) with the NKJV? Is it because you don't agree with HCSB? They say completely different things. Only one can be accurate. Since you chose the NKJV do you believe that it is accurate and the HCSB is inaccurate? If so, why are you posting other things from the HCSB?

From Wikipedia:

Holman Bible Publishers assembled an international, interdenominational team of 100 scholars and proofreaders, all of whom were committed to biblical inerrancy.[SUP][3][/SUP] The translation committee sought to strike a balance between the two prevailing philosophies of Bible translation: formal equivalence (literal, "word-for-word", etc.) and dynamic or functional equivalence ("thought-for-thought"). The translators called this balance "optimal equivalence."

I'm going to have to re-post all this scripture in the KJV aren't I?

Isaiah 40:31
But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.

Do people living in the land called "Israel" trust in the Lord? Why do they spit on Christians? Why are they crying to the wall of a Roman fort? How can these people rise up on wings of faith? When they blaspheme against Lord Jesus do you think it pleases God enough to give their jets protection from enemies?

Isaiah 13:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them, which shall not regard silver; and as for gold, they shall not delight in it.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eyes shall not spare children.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]It shall never be inhabited, neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation: neither shall the Arabian pitch tent there; neither shall the shepherds make their fold there.

Isaiah 34:
[SUP]6 [/SUP]The sword of the Lord is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the Lord hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For it is the day of the Lord's vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And the streams thereof shall be turned into pitch, and the dust thereof into brimstone, and the land thereof shall become burning pitch.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]It shall not be quenched night nor day; the smoke thereof shall go up for ever: from generation to generation it shall lie waste; none shall pass through it for ever and ever.

The problem with trying to link this to a nuclear attack is that brimstone was what was used against Sodom and the other cities--God didn't use nuclear weapons then. What did it involve? Brimstone falling from the sky, burning. Huge chunks of sulphur that flaked the rocks because it was so hot. Nuclear explosions don't last for generations, fires extinguish and land rests. It also mentions unicorns... maybe unicorn was a word people used for the mythical creature known as a tank from the future? lol

Isaiah 17:
[SUP]1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.
2 [/SUP]The cities of Aroer are forsaken: they shall be for flocks, which shall lie down, and none shall make them afraid.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]The fortress also shall cease from Ephraim, and the kingdom from Damascus, and the remnant of Syria: they shall be as the glory of the children of Israel, saith the Lord of hosts.

Ezekiel 12:
19 And say unto the people of the land, Thus saith the Lord God of the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and of the land of Israel; They shall eat their bread with carefulness, and drink their water with astonishment, that her land may be desolate from all that is therein, because of the violence of all them that dwell therein.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]And the cities that are inhabited shall be laid waste, and the land shall be desolate; and ye shall know that I am the Lord.


Men can't do what God can. Syria and all those places are full of fighting and violent people. Even all the ruined cities are inhabited by terrorists. Even though many places are laid waste, God hasn't done it as described yet. Even if someone nuked Damascus it would just look like rubble a few weeks later, its smoke wouldn't go up forever.

Zechariah 14:11
And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.

I'm not saying there won't be wars, just that it's speculation to talk about nuclear wars or specifics. You know perfectly well God used plagues and brimstone, He doesn't need to use nuclear weapons.

If God was just using the IDF to do His work, and started nuking people, wouldn't the world just be shocked and think that it was so-called Jews doing it? Surely the point is for people to realize that God exists and is doing things, not men doing them. Does this make sense?

 

[Bookends]

ever heard of the bible

This strawman argument is one of the worse arguments I have ever heard, It is a catholic tactic and should not be used by people. because it does not help your case any more than it helps the roman catholic cause.

I really don't know what you are talking about. What strawman argument? I'm not making an argument, I'm asking for proof that this system of eschatology was taught by the early church fathers.

Show me some proof that dispensationalism has been around longer then the last two centuries. Show me some proof of a future Jewish Nation as the center of God's economy and new built temple with animal sacrifices in early writings (2 and 3 centuries).

ever heard of the bible

I really don't much care for your insults. You should know better then that.

God Bless

 

[Bookends]

Look up the Greek word and it original meaning, and you will find out Jesus never said the word Church. HE SAID ASSEMBLY, the same thing He called O.T. True Believers:

Matthew 16:18 (YLT)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] `And I also say to thee, that thou art a rock, and upon this rock I will build my assembly, and gates of Hades shall not prevail against it;

The meaning of Church is assembly., a gathering. Amazingly even the dispensational website "Got questions.org" agrees with me.

Answer: Many people today understand the church as a building. This is not a biblical understanding of the church. The word “church” comes from the Greek word ekklesia which is defined as “an assembly” or “called-out ones.” The root meaning of “church” is not that of a building, but of people. It is ironic that when you ask people what church they attend, they usually identify a building. Romans 16:5 says “… greet the church that is in their house.” Paul refers to the church in their house—not a church building, but a body of believers.

https://www.gotquestions.org/what-is-the-church.html

 

[KJV1611]

If the Jews are going to rebuild the temple then why haven't they done it yet, what are they waiting for?

 

[Zen]

If the Jews are going to rebuild the temple then why haven't they done it yet, what are they waiting for?

They need to kill a red heifer, they sprinkle its blood on the tools they use I think. It has to be perfect like never having been used to pull a plow and can't have any dark hair on it. It's very strict.

Oh and also there's the fact that there's a Muslim building on the location they want to build it on lol. They'd upset a lot of Muslims if they bulldozed it.

https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/83434/red-heifer-found-west-virginia/#ST1TVAD6gQLyHcvm.97

 

[KJV1611]

They need to kill a red heifer, they sprinkle its blood on the tools they use I think. It has to be perfect like never having been used to pull a plow and can't have any dark hair on it. It's very strict.

Oh and also there's the fact that there's a Muslim building on the location they want to build it on lol. They'd upset a lot of Muslims if they bulldozed it.

https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/83434/red-heifer-found-west-virginia/#ST1TVAD6gQLyHcvm.97

So when they find a red heifer then they will build the temple?

 

[Zen]

So when they find a red heifer then they will build the temple?

Did you see the video someone linked not long ago? They've basically built a lot of the things they'll put in the temple, including a computer-controlled water dispenser for priests.

There's not much they need to do, knock down the dome or find another location and sacrifice a red heifer for the priest's tools. I get the feeling that if they find the red heifer first it will persuade the Israeli government to consider building it, either on the same place or finding another.

They also need to use actual Levites as priests, and claim to have found them. But how reliable are these DNA tests? If they stayed genetically pure, fair enough.

https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/...return-priestly-covenant/#4iwvMUHUkOWysyBz.97

 

[KJV1611]

Did you see the video someone linked not long ago? They've basically built a lot of the things they'll put in the temple, including a computer-controlled water dispenser for priests.

There's not much they need to do, knock down the dome or find another location and sacrifice a red heifer for the priest's tools. I get the feeling that if they find the red heifer first it will persuade the Israeli government to consider building it, either on the same place or finding another.

They also need to use actual Levites as priests, and claim to have found them. But how reliable are these DNA tests? If they stayed genetically pure, fair enough.

https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/...return-priestly-covenant/#4iwvMUHUkOWysyBz.97

And then they're gonna blaspheme God by offering up animals for atonement instead of offering the blood of Christ and then God is going to be happy with this and save all the Jews for blaspheming the blood of Christ. I don't think so.