This.....Just HIT Me Like a Ton Of Bricks!

[NayborBear]

We, meaning each and every believer, having accepted Jesus as our Lord and Savior, STILL "fall short" of the Glory of God.

Having received the "Gift of the Holy spirit", we still "grieve" the Holy Spirit, even after receiving it!

I do believe it is impossible to commit the unforgivable sin, for our Father in heaven, loves us so much, that, instead, of losing, even ONE of His children, He "inserts" one, that has already been condemned to death, or, bound in chains of darkness!

In doing this act for us however, It grieves the Holy Spirit within us!

But, beings how we are all individuals? We ALL have grieved the Holy Spirit differently!

So, in a "believer's walk of faith", or spiritual journeying/s, in seeking (a) spiritual maturity, we ardently strive in our (singularly) "Ungrieveing of" The Holy Spirit. Each one of us are different, but all are doing these same acts, of trying to. With varying results.

So, these one's preaching "works FOR salvation?" What they are truly "saying", although, they either won't (due to places they have not yet, or refuse to go to, to ungrieve the Holy spirit), or can't, (because the fruit of the Holy Spirit, has not grown that much in them). What they are truly preaching, are, or, usually end up becoming, traditions of men!

thoughts? opinions?

 

[OneFaith]

Grieving the Holy Spirit does not mean making the Holy Spirit grieve, it means for you to grieve having the Holy Spirit inside of you- which truly is unforgivable. (Not wanting to be Holy). It is possible for a genuine child of God to lose the Holy Spirit, and the blood of Christ, and be disowned by God. “For if you (genuine Christian) sin willfully (premeditated without goal or effort to stop) there no longer remains a sacrifice for your sins.” (‘No longer’ meaning there once genuinely did).

 

[Enow]

The unforgivable sin is not believing in Jesus Christ. That is what the Pharisees were actually doing when resisting the testimony of the Holy Spirit by accusing Jesus as casting out devils by a demon.

According to scripture, this is the sin that the Holy Spirit will convict sinners of which is the unforgivable sin.

John 16:[SUP]7 [/SUP]Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.[SUP] 8 [/SUP]And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:[SUP] 9 [/SUP]Of sin, because they believe not on me;[SUP] 10 [/SUP]Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;[SUP]11 [/SUP]Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

Citing the promise of the Holy Spirit that will come from the Father after Jesus had ascended, the sin that the Holy Spirit will convict unbelievers of.. is never having believed in Jesus Christ.

Those who had believed in Him, but erred from the truth and had their faith overthrown or just plain set aside their relationship with the Lord to live in sin, are not in danger of losing salvation, but they are in danger of not being received by the Bridegroom when He comes at the pre trib rapture event when God will judge His House, but to be received later on as vessels unto dishonor in His House after the great tribulation when Satan has been put in the pit for a thousand years.

However, while the door to the Marriage Supper is still open, believers as well as former believers can go before that throne of grace and ask Jesus for help in discernment and wisdom in restoring them to the path pf righteousness for His name's sake so that when the Bridegroom has come, they are not found in iniquity so they can be received as vessels unto honor in His House. Those left behind will become vessels unto dishonor in His House, but they are still in His House. 2 Timothy 2:10-21 at this link below:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Timothy+2:10-21&version=KJV

Only those who never had believed in Him are not saved and that is the condemnation that already awaits them for not believing in the Son to be saved from that condemnation that will eventually cast them into the lake of fire for all eternity.

John 3:[SUP]18 [/SUP]He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

 

[Hizikyah]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 4:4, “But He answering, said, “It has been written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].” (Deut 8:3)

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 14:23-24, "[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]answered him, “If anyone loves Me, he shall guard My Word. And My Father shall love him, and We shall come to him and make Our home with him. He who does not love Me does not guard My Words. And the Word which you hear is not Mine but of the Father Who sent Me.”[/FONT]

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[crossnote]

What they are truly preaching, are, or, usually end up becoming, traditions of men!

...or the self efforts of man, which can also grieve the Holy Spirit.

 

[Hizikyah]

Mat 4:4, “But He answering, said, “It has been written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of יהוה.” (Deut 8:3)

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John 14:23-24, "יהושע answered him, “If anyone loves Me, he shall guard My Word. And My Father shall love him, and We shall come to him and make Our home with him. He who does not love Me does not guard My Words. And the Word which you hear is not Mine but of the Father Who sent Me.”

What is the difference betweeen the self efforts of man and doing thew will of Yah? There is a difference, but ones perception of these can alter everything.

 

[Nehemiah6]

What is the difference between the self efforts of man and doing thew will of Yah?

There were (and are) those who seek to establish their own righteousness through their own good works.

And then there are those who believe God, and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and His righteousness, and His finished work of redemption (including His shed blood) ALONE for their salvation. That Christ was raised from the dead for our justification.

The Bible makes it perfectly clear that sinners are justified (saved) BY GRACE through faith, and not of works. At the same time, those who are justified in this manner produce good works, and the fruit of the Holy Spirit, and thereby demonstrate that they have been saved by grace.

 

[Hizikyah]

What is the difference betweeen the self efforts of man and doing thew will of Yah? There is a difference, but ones perception of these can alter everything.

There were (and are) those who seek to establish their own righteousness through their own good works.

And then there are those who believe God, and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and His righteousness, and His finished work of redemption (including His shed blood) ALONE for their salvation. That Christ was raised from the dead for our justification.

The Bible makes it perfectly clear that sinners are justified (saved) BY GRACE through faith, and not of works. At the same time, those who are justified in this manner produce good works, and the fruit of the Holy Spirit, and thereby demonstrate that they have been saved by grace.

So is doing the will and/or seking to do the will of Yah "establish their own righteousness"?

Is doing what He says the only bad thing a saved person can do?

Will god hate me if I seek to do His will?

and thus the only way to fall from grace is to do His will?

 

[Nehemiah6]

So is doing the will and/or seeking to do the will of Yah "establish their own righteousness"?

To do the will of God is (1) to believe and obey the Gospel, and (2) to do whatsoever things Christ has commanded. Which means that no one can be justified by the works of the Law, but only through repentance and faith in Christ.