Thought policing and "trigger words" in Christian community

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posthuman

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The five key leaked emails from UEA’s Climatic Research Unit

From: Phil Jones <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:31:15 +0000
Dear Ray, Mike and Malcolm,
...I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline.
Cheers
Phil

Conflict of interest
From: Phil Jones <[email protected]>​
To: "Michael E. Mann" <[email protected]>​
Date: Wed Mar 31 09:09:04 2004​
Mike,​
... Recently rejected two papers (one for JGR and for GRL) from people saying CRU has it wrong over Siberia. Went to town in both reviews, hopefully successfully. If either appears I will be very surprised, but you never know with GRL.​
Cheers​
Phil​
Biasing the IPCC assessment?
From: Phil Jones <[email protected]>​
To: "Michael E. Mann" <[email protected]>​
Subject: HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL​
Date: Thu Jul 8 16:30:16 2004​
Mike,​
... I can't see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. Kevin and I will keep them out somehow - even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is !​
Cheers​
Phil​
Rewriting the rules of Freedom of Information
From: Phil Jones <[email protected]>​
Date: Wed Dec 3 13:57:09 2008​
Ben,​
When the FOI requests began here, the FOI person said we had to abide by the requests. It took a couple of half hour sessions - one at a screen, to convince them otherwise showing them what CA [ClimateAudit] was all about. Once they became aware of the types of people we were dealing with, everyone at UEA (in the registry and in the Environmental Sciences school – the head of school and a few others) became very supportive. I've got to know the FOI person quite well and the Chief Librarian - who deals with appeals...​
Cheers​
Phil​
Deleting the evidence
Phil Jones wrote to Mike Mann in 2008:​
Mike,​
Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re AR4? Keith will do likewise... Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same? I don't have his new email address. We will be getting Caspar to do likewise...​
Cheers​
Phil​
please provide the context of the conversations for each of these.

if you can't do that, you are engaging in 'corrupt science'

https://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/
 

Blik

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He is directly referencing behavior. Context matters. I find it interesting that God said Ishmael is a wild ass of a man.
And he shall be as a wild ass among men; his hand shall be against every man, and every man’s hand against him; and he shall dwell over against all his brethren.
Genesis 16:12
I think the context here is the same.
Interesting! Would you say that Christ would want us to call each other names?

Paul wrote in Romans 14 that we were to go along with people who differ in how they worship the lord. Romans 14:5-6, Paul wrote: "One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks."
 
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Interesting! Would you say that Christ would want us to call each other names?

Paul wrote in Romans 14 that we were to go along with people who differ in how they worship the lord. Romans 14:5-6, Paul wrote: "One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks."
In the context of the conversation we aren't talking about belief. We are talking about a person in this forum who is exhibiting bad behavior. Also Dino didn't call him am ass. He asked if he was always this much an ass or if it was just when he was on the internet. Of course I'm paraphrasing but that's the idea. So it was as about bad behavior, which should be confronted.