Three Questions for Calvinists

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Grandpa

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What God grants is forgiveness, and it is only to those who seek it.
John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
 
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What God grants is forgiveness, and it is only to those who seek it.
How does one seek forgiveness when they don't know what they're doing, living a sinners life, is wrong and needs forgiving.
 

oyster67

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John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Yes, and the call goes out to all.

Revelation 3:20
“Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.”
 

oyster67

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How does one seek forgiveness when they don't know what they're doing, living a sinners life, is wrong and needs forgiving.
Sin is rebellion against God and His plan. No one rebels accidentally.

John 3
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

As we see, men choose darkness over light. One doesn't hate things accidentally. It is a choice. All who neglect salvation will be without excuse.


Romans 1:20
“For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:”
 
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Sin is rebellion against God and His plan. No one rebels accidentally.

John 3
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

As we see, men choose darkness over light. One doesn't hate things accidentally. It is a choice. All who neglect salvation will be without excuse.


Romans 1:20
“For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:”
They do when they're unaware of God's rules.
 

Magenta

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The truth of the matter is that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit all urge sinners to come to the Savior through the Gospel (which is the power of God unto salvation -- Rom 1:16). Indeed Christ said that He would draw ALL men to Himself after He was lifted up (either on the cross or exalted through His resurrection and ascension). So in fact no one is excluded unless they exclude themselves.

John 12:31-32
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Magenta

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James 4:8 + Psalm 34:18
James 4~ God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble. Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you. Humble yourselves before the Lord, and He will exalt you.

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Grandpa

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Yes, and the call goes out to all.

Revelation 3:20
“Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.”
John 10:26-28
26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
 

oyster67

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They do when they're unaware of God's rules.
None are without excuse. There will be no innocent people in hell. All are accountable for making a choice because all have been presented with a choice.

Romans 1

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
 

oyster67

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John 10:26-28
26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
Amen!

Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:


If you have not entered in yet, please do it today. Jesus paid your way when He shed His blood for your soul, but you must open the door yourself...

Revelation 3:20

“Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.”
 

Iconoclast

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Yes, and the call goes out to all.

Revelation 3:20
“Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.”
Not everyone hears the gospel preached.
Many died before the cross.
Many today have not heard.
Rev.320 is to the church.
 

Iconoclast

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It is written to the church;
Pay attention,

14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

so it says any man, so what.
 

Iconoclast

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Is.
The call goes out to all.



The whole Bible is written to the Church... and everyone else as well.
You are not a member of that church in Laodecia. It was a local church. there is no universal church.
 

Iconoclast

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Is.
The call goes out to all.
Did the call go to the world of the ungodly who died in the flood?


The whole Bible is written to the Church... and everyone else as well.
You are not a member of that church in Laodecia. It was a local church. there is no universal church
 

Iconoclast

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I put him on ignore. He's a hyper Calvinist who will distort what you say, twist scripture, call you names and then say that you are the one who did this.

You know normally I would not make a post like this, but it seems the Calvinists are using this forum to shove their beliefs at everyone and destroying threads and getting away with it.

We also have people who are saying some of the books of the NT are not scripture.

Seems the Bible is under attack like never before. Calvinism is poison.
Hello Polar,
Sorry to see you lack understanding.People like you lash out against truth.When you get a biblical response you attack the person because you cannot answer a biblically equipped person