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tithe

  • tithe should go to the local church

    Votes: 12 42.9%
  • tithe can go to charities

    Votes: 4 14.3%
  • tithe was only for the Old Testament

    Votes: 8 28.6%
  • I spend my tithe on myself

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • my tithe goes to church headquarters

    Votes: 1 3.6%
  • I thought tithes was ties

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • other

    Votes: 3 10.7%

  • Total voters
    28
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jahsoul

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some of them are struggling for the ministry, for the gospel, sometimes they need to skip meals or medical treatment because of the Lord.
So did Paul but like he stated, God's grace is sufficient. (and I am praying for them)

It's one thing that we have to note regarding this subject. The Old Testament tells the Children of Israel what to give while the New Testament tells the Believer how to give. We take care of the church leaders (who choose to make a living that way) through generous giving and not 10% a paycheck. That is how Paul was sustained.
 
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BeanieD

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Exactly! He said we would be blessed to overflowing but that doesn't mean financially.
 
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Peace be with you, in the New Covenant according to the Word, the Law of the SPIRIT that sets us free (Romans 8;2) and also give us spirit and life, gives these foundation about giving;
1. 'Alms Giving'
2. 'Cheerful Giver'
3. 'Sharing their possession, thinking that it's not their own, with their poor brothers and sisters.'
4. 'Freely freely you have received, freely freely give.'
5 'Collection for the Jerusalem Christian who are poor in gratitude for our salvation which came through them.'

According to the HOLY SPIRIT, hearing and practicing JESUS's teachings and the Apostle's instructions written in the New Covenant, proves;
1. One is a wise builder.
2. One is set free from the yoke of slavery of the Old Covenant.
3. One have truly turned back from their sins (Repented).
4. One have gone from dead to life.
5. One have spirit and life.
6. One's Eternal Life is assured.

Continuing without these things, it is evidence and visible that due to carnality there are divisions, disunity, disloyality, etc. All form of deceit (Citizens of heaven born again to the New Covenant and HOLY SPIRIT, but continuing in carnality, Lawlessness, without any SPIRITUAL Law & Order guidance. Isn't it similar as the 'Wild Wild West' citizens?).
 
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We take care of the church leaders (who choose to make a living that way) through generous giving and not 10% a paycheck. That is how Paul was sustained.
I hardly consider it my responsibility, or even a good deed, to support those who choose to make a living of the gospel. I am only interested in those who are called to proclaim the good news.
 
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jahsoul

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I hardly consider it my responsibility, or even a good deed, to support those who choose to make a living of the gospel. I am only interested in those who are called to proclaim the good news.
I think you looked too deep into my words with that one. I wasn't putting a distinction on the choose/called element of pastoring. But we have some pastors who have a 9 to 5 and we have some who don't.
 
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Mammachickadee

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The purpose of the tithe is to further the gospel. Also from the tithe comes funding for church ministries such as caring for the widows and orphans (so that the government doesn't have to).
 
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zaoman32

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What's interesting to note is that the only time the word "tithe" is used in the bible is in the book of Malachi, and when taken in context with the rest of the chapter it's in reference to giving of yourself to God, and has absolutely nothing to do with money, or the church.
 
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The purpose of the tithe is to further the gospel. Also from the tithe comes funding for church ministries such as caring for the widows and orphans (so that the government doesn't have to).
Scripture declares the ordinances to be abolished. Tithing was an ordinance.

To teach that we are to tithe is saying, "God, your Word is not my final authority. You say the ordinances were abolished, I say at least one is not. You say the tithe was food, I say it is money. You say, the tithe was for the children of Israel, I say it is for everyone. You say only Levites tithed to the Temple, I say everyone is to tithe even if they are not of the tribe of Levi."

See where this is going? One exalting his views above God's Word. The serpent did that exact thing in the Garden of Eden... causing Eve to doubt what God said was true and to believe him instead.
 
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What's interesting to note is that the only time the word "tithe" is used in the bible is in the book of Malachi, and when taken in context with the rest of the chapter it's in reference to giving of yourself to God, and has absolutely nothing to do with money, or the church.
Actually, the word "tithe" appears 14 times in 13 verses of the Bible.

But you are correct when you say that it had nothing whatsoever to do with money or the Church.
 
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Peace be with you, leaders of a congregation (church), chosen by CHRIST's servants have given privilege to make a living of the Gospel and others written in the New Covenant. They are given to them for the building and edifying of the church and also a reminder and a stirrer up of their memories, to all that have been initially taught. They consist people like Bishops, Pastors and Reverends, placed as acting matured spiritual leaders for HIS lambs and sheeps in the church. They are also those who are subjected in words and action in accordance to the Great Leader their MASTER, who is truly the Head over the FATHER's church (body of CHRIST).
Their duties are to feed HIS lambs, tend to HIS sheeps and feed HIS sheeps. Duties with fellow members are, to pray, fast, to handle matters, to solve problems, to manage and etc. Then, is being an acting leader is that simple of a job in the eyes of commentators and witnesses? Is it true or do one know for sure what is said and viewed about them is to be truth based (the Holy Bible foundation)?
The HOLY SPIRIT say that many of us are shortsighted to judge and our judgement is partially true.
Why?
Because there are leaders who truly labor for the congregation and for their dwellings and there are those who don't. There are those who fatten the lambs and sheeps more than themselves and their families. And there are those who fatten themselves and their families more than the lambs and sheeps of GOD. The poor are chased out of this church but the rich remain remain in them. The LORD will be their judge and surprisingly HE will judge just the opposite, who is truly the rich and who is truly the poor?
In the Old Testament the priesthoods and their families (the Levites) were 'not given' lands to farm. They were to be full time laborers in the house of worship of GOD focused for the well being in all GODLY matters in their lives and in the lives of all the lambs and sheeps of GOD of Israel. The other clans were 'given' lands to farm, by GOD in order to provide for their families and neighbors and also bring their tithes and offerings to the Priests at the Temple, in accordance, complying to the law of Moses, also a tenth of all they owned. From this offered to GOD, are also partly, a providence (wages for their Temple duties) for the all the Priests and their families.
The LORD also mentioned this through the Apostle Paul in accordance to the New Testament, that servant leaders who labor in the Kingdom of GOD, faithful for HIS lambs and sheeps indoors and outdoors (Evangelize, Missionaries and Prophets);
"Do not muzzle an ox while it is grinding." They deserve to be paid for their labors (duties).
So remember them, acting leaders imitating CHRIST of GOD, have prayed and blessed you with wealth and health of living in this world. Kindly invest wisely in accordance to the knowledge of the Living Truth of GOD's Kingdom.
In the letter of Apostle Paul to Timothy, there are instructions of how to bring accusation towards and also how not to, against an acting leader of a church.
Please remember that many of us are also leaders of our given families. We are also accountable for what GOD has placed in our care;
1. Are they behaving obediently and submissively to their husband or parents?
2. Are they conformed to the Kingdom of GOD in accordance to the New Covenant teachings and instructions?
3. Or are they conformed to the pattern of this world?
4. Or are they like their Leader and Leaders of today who are in-between both (lukewarm)?
The HOLY SPIRIT who inspired the Holy Scriptures written in the Holy Bible, and also our anointing, the Helper;
1. Who will lead us into the full truth.
2. Who reminders us of our LORD the MESSIAH's Words of teachings and instructions.
3. Who also tells us the things to happen, have spoken through these replies.
For those who have HIS given sound doctrine, can recognize HIM who is clearly speaking because the highlights are just and fair, correcting and encouraging ignorant smart believers to turn back, who continue in their own opinions and understandings about the Kingdom of GOD.
As it is written; "HE catches the wise in their craftiness." (also in Job 5;13)
This is a reminder and a memory stirrer, to all believers, to stay awake and to be alert from the devil's alpha and omega deceptions that stirs up disunity in the house of GOD. Also to all believers who continue ignorantly in their natural bodily lust of carnality, gratifying it's desires, not abiding in GOD's Word, HIS SON and the HOLY SPIRIT's New Covenant, written Teachings and Instructions, even to the Apostle's, established as grace and truth 'Spiritual foundation of faith' for the body of CHRIST;
As it is also written; "Do not test the LORD your GOD!", doing otherwise.
'HE is written as truly the Loving GOD and HE is also written as truly the Consuming Fire.' HE is GOD who is serious about HIS Covenant, which HE made with HIS people and in them contains, HIS written spoken every Words. They are given to them in order to 'abide' and 'also their fruits must abide', who once, did desperately seek and chose HIM as their Saviour, whether during the Israelites of the Old Covenant redeemed from the slavery of Egypt or during the Christians of the New Covenant redeemed from the slavery of satan and this world of sin and death.
In the Old Covenant HE did not spare HIS ignorant and disobedient people, also women and children, even after constant reminder and stirring up of their memories using HIS faithful and suffered servants as acting leaders, in regards to HIS Covenant that they have turned their backs on. They have accepted HIS Covenant and they have received HIS rich blessings of being different and excellent from the world and protection, kept from harm's way in order to live life in peace from their enemies. But sadly, they remain yet in their same 'self' lives, remembering Egypt from time to time, influencing and encouraging others in the same disobedience manner.
How about the ones in the New Covenant, will HE spare the pampered ones of CHRIST's and the Apostles's labor and sacrifice? Do you see the resemblance, the re-runs and the re-occurrence of disobedience (sins) against and breaking HIS Words written in HIS Covenant.
As it is said by man; 'History can repeats itself.'
But I the LORD your MESSIAH say to you; "Turn back from your ways and come to My Way, My Truth and My Life, the only way to the FATHER." "And I can help you stop History repeating itself because the New Covenant of the FATHER which HE made with you, which I have called you to 'abide' in all that is written in order to bear fruits and they are also spirit and life came from my mouth and the HOLY SPIRIT." "I have no favorites and have no respective of men." "My mother, brother and sister are those who obey GOD'S Word and do HIS Word's will." "They are those who are joy and excited when they face and go through Tribulation and they are also Persecuted for righteousness, for My Name sake."

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Mooky

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I believe that we should give generously to the Lords work wether it is to the local church or reputable christian organisations,
 

john832

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Exactly! He said we would be blessed to overflowing but that doesn't mean financially.
How many terrible car crashes have NOT happened to us that should have? They did not occur because God altered events and we did not even recognize it. We should be so very thankful for all the blessings God pours out on us daily.
 
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How many people have neglected their family needs because of the deceitful monetary tithe doctrine being pushed in the pulpits?