To be or not to be.......what says you?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

p_rehbein

Senior Member
Sep 4, 2013
30,693
6,884
113
#41
Am I mistaken or did the Member status under DianaO's name in her post change? I thought "active" was there once. As it is under my name and others here. If not then "senior" Member appears.
Hey D? Are you still with us? Or did your prediction come true? Knock once if yes. Or not at all. :p
Kidding.
I hope.
When you reach a certain Post Count, yours will change to Senior Member as I understand it........no worries
 

Lillywolf

Well-known member
Aug 29, 2018
1,562
543
113
#42
In my opinion only possibly, vs. 21 is very close to what Jesus said in Matthew 24......

13) But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
I don't see that verse as saying we have to work to see Heaven. Rather it is advising that when we endure in the word and trust God fully we shall overcome any challenge before us.
The works saves philosophy fails to realize from its inception it is insisting humans need assist Go with his divine plan of grace. And that Jesus dying on the cross wasn't really all that, or enough to fulfill that plan and set the new covenant into motion.

It's a notion that in some places is referred to as auto-theism, or auto-deism. "Self as god". As in, we're working to help God keep his word about saving us.
I think it qualifies as blasphemy of the highest order.
But those who think they have to work to keep themselves in God's good graces probably help out a lot of people with their labors. So, only when they're dead will they find the truth, at least while alive they served people while thinking they are important enough that God needs them to work hard so he'll keep his word.