Today’s church’s misunderstandings

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Blik

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so you are autistic? and you think that is a reason for you to be rude? my uncle is Autistic and he is not a rude person. Nor does he say HE is autistic or use ASD to be rude. You are an insult to those who have ASD. IF you know you have ASD then you know right from wrong, and therefore make's you fake.
You are not acting in the way we are told to act as Christians. You are a moderator and given a position that requires you to be Christian, even more than others. Christ told us not to so much as call other Christians fools. The way you put down posters is much, much worse than calling them fools, and this is always over not agreeing with you. If we simply state what we think it seems to give you a reason to attack, and that is not right.

This site is for Christians to tell how they perceive scripture, and they should be allowed to do that without name calling, fighting, and acting the role of an enemy as you do so often. Please consider stopping this sort of action.
 

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I wonder if the x on my post asking CSl to please stop with the insults means that he refuses to stop insulting people or he denies he ever insults, or he denies that Christ asked us not to do that to each other.
 

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so you are autistic? and you think that is a reason for you to be rude? my uncle is Autistic and he is not a rude person. Nor does he say HE is autistic or use ASD to be rude. You are an insult to those who have ASD. IF you know you have ASD then you know right from wrong, and therefore make's you fake.
Did I say that? I must admit I can't remember probably because I didn't. Has your uncle written a book on Autism? If he hasn't perhaps he should because I get the impression from you that he is an authority on the subject to the point that everyone who is autistic has to do the same as he does.

Just one other point. Does being a moderator mean that you can be ascorbic and distasteful all the time? Forgive me if I am wrong but that is the impression I get.
 

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I wonder if the x on my post asking CSl to please stop with the insults means that he refuses to stop insulting people or he denies he ever insults, or he denies that Christ asked us not to do that to each other.
I get the feeling that he doesn't like any post that fingers him for his acerbic ways.
 

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Not one, all 23....
Covenant People by Tony Morton
The Radical Christian by Arthur Wallis
Kingdom Now by Gerald Coates
The Expansion of Christianity by Timothy Yates
Going To Church in the First Century by Robert Banks
Radical Church History by Roger Forster
A Voice in the Wind by Francine Rivers
An Echo in the Darkness by Francine Rivers
As Sure as the Dawn by Francine Rivers
Biblical Eldership by Alexander Strauch
A History of the Jewish People in the Time of Christ (5 vol) Emil Schurer D.D. M.A.
History of the Christian Church (8 vol) by Philip Schaff

And the word is reveal, not revel.
A few more books for you that I had forgotten about......

Ancient Israel's Faith and History by George Mendenhall
Reimagining Church by Frank Viola
Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola
 

mustaphadrink

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ever compare the behaviours of today with those in the Bible and that they didn't give
'excuses or (letter abbreviations) for them???
a rotten apple is a rotten apple -
a spoiled or neglected child is nothing more than a spoiled/neglected child -
an entitled person is nothing more that an entitled person, who ..... on everyone that they don't like,
or who disagrees with them, HELLO!!! -
self-centered, self-serving, selfish, etc.,need not man-made-up-letters' or 'excuses' to describe what they really are!!!,
they are, 'the children of darkness'...

people, get REAL, take responsibility for yourselves and the way that you 'behave'!!!
next, after the letters, they will be blaming Jesus for their 'un-godly-behaviours'...
I am not sure that this post is edifying.
 

gb9

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A few more books for you that I had forgotten about......

Ancient Israel's Faith and History by George Mendenhall
Reimagining Church by Frank Viola
Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola

frank viola does not seem to recognize Paul as a teacher. he has stated that Paul came to Antioch as a member of the church, not to teach.

not a good sign, not a good guy to take advise from.
 

mustaphadrink

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frank viola does not seem to recognize Paul as a teacher. he has stated that Paul came to Antioch as a member of the church, not to teach.

not a good sign, not a good guy to take advise from.
Depends if you put all your begs in one ask it. I don't let the one blot on a shirt make me throw it out. I look at the overall picture and so far I have not found one single book that has it all right. But I have found many books that have nearly all right.
 

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A few more books for you that I had forgotten about......

Ancient Israel's Faith and History by George Mendenhall
Reimagining Church by Frank Viola
Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola
And here is another one...
The Church by Hans Kuhn
 

gb9

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Depends if you put all your begs in one ask it. I don't let the one blot on a shirt make me throw it out. I look at the overall picture and so far I have not found one single book that has it all right. But I have found many books that have nearly all right.

i would agree, but saying that Paul is just a church member is a big deal. a very big deal.

but, most of you judeaizers do not recognize Paul's letters as authortative Scripture, just inspired writings.

it all goes to pushing Sabbath keeping as requirement for Christ followers.
 

mustaphadrink

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i would agree, but saying that Paul is just a church member is a big deal. a very big deal.

but, most of you judeaizers do not recognize Paul's letters as authortative Scripture, just inspired writings.

it all goes to pushing Sabbath keeping as requirement for Christ followers.
I think you will find that this was the case at the beginning because the early church which was all Jews had a hard time coming to terms with gentile believers but in time they accepted them as full members of The Way.
 
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I think you will find that this was the case at the beginning because the early church which was all Jews had a hard time coming to terms with gentile believers but in time they accepted them as full members of The Way.

sorry, (not sorry but I am trying to be polite) but that is a very lame excuse

I have had enough interaction with both Sabbath keepers AND the infernal Hebrew Roots movement, to call them bogus Bible believers

if you throw out Paul, you throw out salvation as revealed through Paul

in fact, you are not longer believing the actual gospel

what else do you toss?

you have to massage and twist and take out of context so much to believe Paul is not a valid contributor, that you are left with...surprise!...things like Sabbath keeping and Hebrew Roots (the roots is a real plague IMO)
 

mustaphadrink

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sorry, (not sorry but I am trying to be polite) but that is a very lame excuse

I have had enough interaction with both Sabbath keepers AND the infernal Hebrew Roots movement, to call them bogus Bible believers

if you throw out Paul, you throw out salvation as revealed through Paul

in fact, you are not longer believing the actual gospel

what else do you toss?

you have to massage and twist and take out of context so much to believe Paul is not a valid contributor, that you are left with...surprise!...things like Sabbath keeping and Hebrew Roots (the roots is a real plague IMO)
No it is not a lame excuse it is the facts which I have sifted through thoroughly to find out the truth.
 

mustaphadrink

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Did I say that? I must admit I can't remember probably because I didn't. Has your uncle written a book on Autism? If he hasn't perhaps he should because I get the impression from you that he is an authority on the subject to the point that everyone who is autistic has to do the same as he does.

Just one other point. Does being a moderator mean that you can be ascorbic and distasteful all the time? Forgive me if I am wrong but that is the impression I get.
I am beginning to think that you disagree with any and everything on principle. Definitely a doubting Thomas.