Tolerance Eph 4:2

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maxwel

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Does anyone get what I'm trying to say or am I too idealistic here?
This is a debate forum.

If you come to a debate forum, and join in a debate... then you will, by definition, have to debate.


FYI, it's very common for leftists, who are used to being in an ideological bubble, and never having their ideas challenged, to suddenly feel angry when they get into a real debate and suddenly have all their assumptions challenged.

This is a debate forum.

We're glad to have you.
But if you're willing to come in here and challenge my ideas, don't be surprised, or hurt, when I disagree, and challenge yours.

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SpoonJuly

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Hi, fairly new here. I'm assuming mostly Christians here? While I know 'all fall short of the glory..' I was very surprised to read so many vitriolic replies and even name calling. I happened to give some observations on 'socialism' and you would have thought I said 'God is dead'. Someone else gave his opinion on make-up which wasn't too popular and was berated by many members. Rom 2:4, 'the kindness of God leads us to repentance' and Eph 4:2, 'show tolerance for one another with love' is the opposite I see in some posts. I'm certainly not perfect but one thing I can do is talk about something controversial w/o blowing my top off. Does anyone get what I'm trying to say or am I too idealistic here?
I just went to the forum post you referred to and read every post.
I did not see one thing posted as you described.
Now most did disagree with you and pointed out why.
You are the one who placed labels (name calling) on certain groups you perceive as evil and causing the poor to suffer.

If you can't run with the big dogs, best stay on the porch.
 

TabinRivCA

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#23
This is a debate forum.

If you come to a debate forum, and join in a debate... then you will, by definition, have to debate.


FYI, it's very common for leftists, who are used to being in an ideological bubble, and never having their ideas challenged, to suddenly feel angry when they get into a real debate and suddenly have all their assumptions challenged.

This is a debate forum.

We're glad to have you.
But if you're willing to come in here and challenge my ideas, don't be surprised, or hurt, when I disagree, and challenge yours.

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I'm not a leftist, surprised here or hurt and I can comprehend this is a debate or Christian debate form. My doggie of 10 yrs went to Heaven 3 days ago, that hurt. But wow, God had mercy on me, sent the Comforter and delivered me from guilt and grief. I'm off to Greg Laurie's Church, Harvest Christian Center, where I'm in a ladies study class. I do on-line Church every Sunday bc I relate to Pastor Bill Winston. Something I haven't learnt yet is how stating an opinion from a diff perspective can cause so much strife among Christians.
 

maxwel

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I'm not a leftist, surprised here or hurt and I can comprehend this is a debate or Christian debate form. My doggie of 10 yrs went to Heaven 3 days ago, that hurt. But wow, God had mercy on me, sent the Comforter and delivered me from guilt and grief. I'm off to Greg Laurie's Church, Harvest Christian Center, where I'm in a ladies study class. I do on-line Church every Sunday bc I relate to Pastor Bill Winston. Something I haven't learnt yet is how stating an opinion from a diff perspective can cause so much strife among Christians.
If Christians dislike your political ideas so much, perhaps you should reevaluate them.

I would note that socialist concepts have nothing to do with the Bible, and they're built on well-meaning, but unbiblical and sinful grounds. (When someone has more than you, and you feel you should TAKE from them against their will... that is called the sin of STEALING, after you first commit the sin of COVETING. )


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Deade

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I'm not a leftist, surprised here or hurt and I can comprehend this is a debate or Christian debate form. My doggie of 10 yrs went to Heaven 3 days ago, that hurt. But wow, God had mercy on me, sent the Comforter and delivered me from guilt and grief. I'm off to Greg Laurie's Church, Harvest Christian Center, where I'm in a ladies study class. I do on-line Church every Sunday bc I relate to Pastor Bill Winston. Something I haven't learnt yet is how stating an opinion from a diff perspective can cause so much strife among Christians.
Eph. 4:2 talks of a peace held with meekness and love among believers of like faith. That would be very difficult in a forum like this where there is little agreed upon. Then you bring in a secular governing ideal that is sure to draw fire. Don't expect peace until there is some consensus. :unsure:o_O:unsure:
 

Davenport

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Hi, fairly new here. I'm assuming mostly Christians here? While I know 'all fall short of the glory..' I was very surprised to read so many vitriolic replies and even name calling. I happened to give some observations on 'socialism' and you would have thought I said 'God is dead'.
When you advocate socialism, you're telling me you want me to be a slave and that you want to ban Christianity. Socialism has always worked like that, and socialism can only work like that. No name is harsh enough for a socialist.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Where are the guidelines for making remarks? 'Hillary was tormented' is a controversial statement? No matter if she is a liberal or not I can't see Jesus condoning the spiteful treatment she suffered and the ugly racism Pres O and his family got were horrific. What exactly is the point you're making re lil bi? peep ,sheeples have horns? Explain please.

the only one trying to get something going over 'controversial' statements at the moment, is you

saying Hillary was tormented is nonsense and but you can repeat that 100 more times if wish to

however, don't expect people who just witnessed an actual travesty and an actual horrendous and evil display from the democrats to agree with you

perhaps you do not understand what the word 'debate' means?

at any rate, you post a verse of scripture for the title of your op and that was the last we heard of anything from the Bible

so was that click bait? this is the BDF. anyone can post a verse but you have walked away from that verse and taken up a defense of the Clintons and Obama which you can find plenty of in the news forum

although if you keep saying Clinton and or Obama suffered or Obama said nothing racist (he incited the worst racism this country has seen in over a decade), you may wish to consider posting in the conspiracy and corruption forum

you started this thread to complain about people who do not agree with your left leaning views...in the BDF

what did you expect? and then you state you hope it does not become like Yahoo

excuse us
 

TabinRivCA

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I just went to the forum post you referred to and read every post.
I did not see one thing posted as you described.
Now most did disagree with you and pointed out why.
You are the one who placed labels (name calling) on certain groups you perceive as evil and causing the poor to suffer.

If you can't run with the big dogs, best stay on the porch.
Well that is exactly what Socialism believes and teaches.

The idea was that a communist regime would use the absolute power of the socialist “dictatorship of the proletariat” to destroy all values, all religion, all institutions, and all traditions—which would theoretically lead to the communist “utopia.”

https://www.theepochtimes.com/nazism-fascism-and-socialism-are-all-rooted-in-communism_2549205.html

So we need to clearly define and understand "tolerance". Left-Liberals preach tolerance until their views are rejected. After that they preach hatred. Look at what is happening all around you. The Left has been promoting the idea of assassinating Trump. That is both sedition and treason. His response to all this nonsense has not been sufficiently stern and swift.

Christians are to love their neighbors, which also means that they are to hate evil ideologies, which ultimately come from Satan, and expose them, while presenting the Gospel.

But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. (Heb 1:8,9)
the only one trying to get something going over 'controversial' statements at the moment, is you

saying Hillary was tormented is nonsense and but you can repeat that 100 more times if wish to

however, don't expect people who just witnessed an actual travesty and an actual horrendous and evil display from the democrats to agree with you

perhaps you do not understand what the word 'debate' means?

at any rate, you post a verse of scripture for the title of your op and that was the last we heard of anything from the Bible

so was that click bait? this is the BDF. anyone can post a verse but you have walked away from that verse and taken up a defense of the Clintons and Obama which you can find plenty of in the news forum

although if you keep saying Clinton and or Obama suffered or Obama said nothing racist (he incited the worst racism this country has seen in over a decade), you may wish to consider posting in the conspiracy and corruption forum

you started this thread to complain about people who do not agree with your left leaning views...in the BDF

what did you expect? and then you state you hope it does not become like Yahoo

excuse us
If you don't think Hillary was tormented by whoever the people were hollering 'lock her up, lock her up' then conversation on this done.
 

TabinRivCA

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If Christians dislike your political ideas so much, perhaps you should reevaluate them.

I would note that socialist concepts have nothing to do with the Bible, and they're built on well-meaning, but unbiblical and sinful grounds. (When someone has more than you, and you feel you should TAKE from them against their will... that is called the sin of STEALING, after you first commit the sin of COVETING. )


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Well I am a Christian and am able to discuss things and if someone doesn't like my opinion well that's their prerogative. BTW the US military, SSA, healthcare programs, the VA all socialist. I'm out of this topic.
 

p_rehbein

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Took you one Thread to get on everyone's last nerve...........gotta be some kinda record....... goodness

The Dems ALWAYS play the "race" card...........ALWAYS............

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PennEd

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Where are the guidelines for making remarks? 'Hillary was tormented' is a controversial statement? No matter if she is a liberal or not I can't see Jesus condoning the spiteful treatment she suffered and the ugly racism Pres O and his family got were horrific. What exactly is the point you're making re lil bi? peep ,sheeples have horns? Explain please.

What world are you living in? Hillary, Obama, and ALL on the left are worshiped and praised by virtually all the major media, the education establishment, entertainment establishment, and more.

Are there a few bad actors that have said misogynist or racist stuff? Of course! But they are ONLY newsworthy BECAUSE of their rarity.

Have you been under a rock in terms of the hatred directed toward our current President?
 
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7seasrekeyed

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If you don't think Hillary was tormented by whoever the people were hollering 'lock her up, lock her up' then conversation on this done.

I think the men that were killed when they could have been rescued, over in Benghazi, are the ones that we remember

and we also remember that la madame Clinton said 'what difference does it make' referring to the fact they were already dead

how do, Tabin, explain the fact that those who could have rescued the murdered men, inside the embassy as well as those trying to protect them, were told to STAND DOWN

liberalism is a mental disease. don't see yourself or any other liberal as being on the right side of things

if you do follow the out of control demos, then you are siding AGAINST the Bible

you CANNOT be a supporter of abortion, murder, threats, physical violence (Antifa and others), subversive tactics, a false narrative in order to win against your opponent and various other demonic tactics that we see on display from Maxine to Nancy to Feinstein to Booker who seems to be suffering from substance abuse and the rest of the foaming at the mouth pack of liars and say you believe what the Bible says about that exact behavior

you say you are not a leftist, but you also appear to espouse all their views

how do you account for that?

ps. ANY other person who has done what la madame Clinton has done, would be rotting in prison
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Well I am a Christian and am able to discuss things and if someone doesn't like my opinion well that's their prerogative. BTW the US military, SSA, healthcare programs, the VA all socialist. I'm out of this topic.

naw

you aren't discussing

you are basically a water carrier for the left. don't spill any. :rolleyes: