Tongues is a sign to them that believe not. 'Divers tongues' is also among the manifestations of the Spirit give to believers 'for the common good.'
Tongues is a sign to them that believe not, as the end of the matter or Tongues is a sign to them that believe not, period .
Let's make this crystal clear. You say that tongues is a sign for them that believe not 'period.' That was a response to me pointing out that 'divers tongues' is among the gifts given to the saints 'for the common good.'
So let's be clear. Are you rejecting the teaching of scripture that 'divers tongues' is among the gifts the Spirit gives for the common good, as I Corinthians 12 teaches? Come right out and say it if that is what you believe?
It is always a sign to those who believe not (no faith).
And to them that believe, it is one of many gifts given for the common good.
You seem to have difficulty comprehending. Pray that the Lord will open your mind to understand. I will pray for you.
They who desire it to be sign to those who believe become their very own source of faith and seek their own approval, called self-edifying.
The Bible does not teach that. The Bible says that he who speaks in tongues edifies himself. He doesn't say they become their very own source of faith. You just made that up, or got it from some non-biblical source, like you do with a lot of your other ideas.
Speaking in tongues edifies the speaker. If it is interpreted it edifies the church. If it does not edify the whole Church as prophecy then the speaker should be silent.
Paul says he is to be silent '
in the church, and let him speak to himself and to God.' You left out the parts of the verse that contradict your arguments.
we edify not ourselves..as in self righteousness.
This is poor interpretation. In context, edifying oneself is good, and edifying others is better. Paul says he that speaks in tongues edifies himself-- and that he would that ye all spake with tongues. Paul wanted them all to engage in this activity that edified themselves.
But he said I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied. He said that he that prophesies edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church. So self-edification is good. Paul wanted them to do that. But edifying others was better. Paul would prefer the edify others.
This is a case of good versus better, not bad versus good. Edifying oneself is good. Edifying others is better. In the church, we should do things to edify the church.
If an individual edifying himself is forbidden, then is it forbidden for a man to read scripture by himself at home?
It seems you desire it to be a sign to a believer, but that would violate the law not subject to change.
You haven't shown any scripture that says that it is wrong to be a sign to a believer. The verse that says that tongues is a sign to them that believe not does not say that all signs are to them that believe not. If you think that, you are thinking irrationally and illogically. I don't know if it is a physical, biological, or purely spiritual problem with your comprehension. But if you interpret the verse that way, you are not comprehending what is written on the page, and you need help.
It can’t be a sign of both those who do have faith and those who have none. They would be trying to serve two masters. Prophecy as the word of God, and speaking into the air mysteries that even the speaker has no understanding.
Tongues is a sign to them that believe not. In the passage, this is related to a specific prophecy about not hearing when God speaks through men of other tongues and other lips. One type of sign is a fulfilled prophecy. Hezekiah asked for a sign that he would live and go up to the house of the LORD. He asked for the shadow of the stairs to move backward. This came to pass, and the sign was fulfilled. Another example of a sign is when Moses predicted that if the Lord had sent him, that the ground would open up and swallow up those in Korah's rebellion. It came to pass. A fulfilled prophecy or prophetic prediction is one kind of sign.
In I Corinthians 14, there is a fulfillment of a prophecy from Isaiah about God speaking through men of other tongues and other lips that occurs when unbelievers respond to speaking with tongues with unbelief.
Signs are for those who rebel against the word of God.
And for believers, and for anyone else God wants to give a sign to. You are not God. You have no authority to prevent God from giving signs or to tell Him who to give signs to. You have no authority to go back in time and tell Jesus not to answer the apostles' question about the sign of His coming, or to forbid Him from telling the apostles about the sign of the Son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven.
You have no authority to go back in time and tell the angel not to tell the shepherds about the sign of the Babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, and laying in a manger.
I have pointed these things out to you. What is it that keeps you from understanding? That is what you need to focus on and pray about, rather than commenting on this thread.
Joh 4:48 Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.
That verse does NOT support your argument in the least. Jesus continued performing signs and wonders after this. There were some who believed after He performed signs and wonders. Thomas believed after he saw evidence of the resurrection. He missed out on a blessing for needing to see the resurrected Jesus before he believed.
If it is clear with what Christ informs us why would you rebel against that
Rebell against what? Jesus said, 'Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.' Then He did signs and wonders. The apostles, following His example and empowered by the Spirit, did signs and wonders. Philip preached and did signs and wonders. It is not rebellion to believe the teachings of the New Testament.
