TRINITY: Is This Doctrine Found In The Bible?

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onwingsaseagles

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Joshdharris said:
The Biblical view is that God is 1 divine spirit eternally manifested as Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

With our mortal minds we can't understand it, but effectively there is only 1 God - This is the most important thing to remember.

However He reveals Himself in 3 different forms, so to speak.

So although He is 1, because He is God, He can manifest (or make Himself) appear in more than 1 form. You can't understand it because our brains are finite and created but as God is God, He could make Himself appear in more than 1 form whilst it is still Him.

The really bad example I use to help me understand is imagining water. Whether it's water, ice or steam, it's still water. So even if God is being revealed at that time as Father, or Son, or Holy Spirit, it's still God.
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By your post I cannot tell if you fall into the oneness category or trinitarian, seems more like a modalist view to be Honest. Did you think that Jesus is God in the flesh?
 
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dutchpuppy

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Josh, good posting! I like the water analogy! I like to think of God in his awesome power can do anything and do what is necessary to help us, though our pitiful minds cannot get around the concept. God can not appear to us, but as Jesus, He could...live among us and REALLY say he had walked in our shoes.

Sometimes we feel God's presence. That has happened to me several times and maybe that is the Holy Spirit. I don't know how it works and people will debate the Trinity forever. It's called Faith for a reason. Let's keep our hearts "right."
 
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Joshdharris

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onwingsaseagles said:
By your post I cannot tell if you fall into the oneness category or trinitarian, seems more like a modalist view to be Honest. Did you think that Jesus is God in the flesh?
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Yes I do. Jesus was both fully God and fully man. If He wasn't fully God then He coudln't have been without sin. If He wasn't fully man then He couldn't be tempted and thus He couldn't have identified with us.

But in essence, yes He was God in the flesh.
 
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Charles

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I see God who is the Father and I see his Son, Jesus Christ; God is a spirit (Jo.4:24), he is the Holy Spirit.
 
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onwingsaseagles

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Joshdharris said:
Yes I do. Jesus was both fully God and fully man. If He wasn't fully God then He coudln't have been without sin. If He wasn't fully man then He couldn't be tempted and thus He couldn't have identified with us.

But in essence, yes He was God in the flesh.
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I agree that Jesus is God, but not because He was sinless, it was His humanity that endured temptation.
 
NoahsDad

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If God and the Holy Spirit are 2 different people wouldnt that make Jesus the son of the Holy Spirit instead of the son of God?
Mat 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
Luk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
 
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onwingsaseagles

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NoahsDad said:
If God and the Holy Spirit are 2 different people wouldnt that make Jesus the son of the Holy Spirit instead of the son of God?
Mat 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
Luk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
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hahaha, something I have asked many times
 
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farouk

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Regarding the sinlessness of the Lord Jesus, the Bible says:

'He did no sin' (1 Peter 2.22)

'He knew no sin' (2 Corinthians 5.21)

'In him is no sin' (1 John 3.5).

It's good to keep to the clear statements of Scripture.
 
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