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ConsumingFire

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without question brother. thats a promise ill never let go of
 
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ConsumingFire

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not anymore
 
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ladylynn

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Once you understand how to receive true grace you can be made sinless by the power of God( taken from post 7)

Have you reached the stage of sinless perfection consumingfire?


Not sure if he wants to dialog..... Seems to be happy all by himself. :D
 
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ConsumingFire

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enjoy your day james
 
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Not sure if he wants to dialog..... Seems to be happy all by himself. :D
Well as he is claiming sinless perfection I guess he would feel happier avoiding sinners less he gets contaminated by our imperfections

He needs to be quarantined!
 
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ConsumingFire

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actually its quite the opposite James, id rather share my knowledge so more people could see gods side of things
 
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ConsumingFire

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always kinda funny how quick people that feel condemned themselves have to always try and make others feel just as condemned as they do. i suggest you study on this one scripture till you can really understand the meaning of it.

Tit 1:9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
Tit 1:10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:
Tit 1:11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.
Tit 1:12 One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.
Tit 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
Tit 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
Tit 1:15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
Tit 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
 
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ConsumingFire

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mlj_2.jpg wise words from a smart man
 
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MLJ was a very knowledgeable person of spiritual truth through the holy spirits enlightenment.
Hd believed Jesus died for all a believers sins, past, present and future. And as per the quote. He knew if he preached the true Gospel of grace, the evidence he was preaching the true Gospel would be, some would claim he was preaching a licence to sin
 
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FreeNChrist

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TLDR......
 

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CF, could you in one paragraph summarize your point?
 
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ConsumingFire

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if you are still sinning the scripture blatantly say that you do not love God you do not abide in God and You do not know God. All i'm saying in all this is to search the scriptures to prove to your own selves if what you currently believe is the truth from God, God is the only true judge and scripture only works if someone is willing to drop everything they think they know about them and let the scriptures explain themselves. for precept must be upon precept , line upon line, here a little there a little. let God be true and every man a liar.
 

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if you are still sinning the scripture blatantly say that you do not love God you do not abide in God and You do not know God. All i'm saying in all this is to search the scriptures to prove to your own selves if what you currently believe is the truth from God, God is the only true judge and scripture only works if someone is willing to drop everything they think they know about them and let the scriptures explain themselves. for precept must be upon precept , line upon line, here a little there a little. let God be true and every man a liar.
If you offend in one point of the Law you have broken the WHOLE LAW.
Are you that perfect?

James 2:10 (KJV) For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Even MLJ who you quoted, didn’t preach sinless perfectionism.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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oh boy, another sinless perfectionist. Who needs God anymore. we already made it!!

this place is getting out of hand..
 
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satan uses the law against us as a weapon ( which is good but we can't live it )

Colossians 2:14-15 (NASB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] When He had disarmed the rulers and authorities, He made a public display of them, having triumphed over them through Him.

satan was disarmed..the weapon he used on us the bring condemnation and guilt was the law ( us continually breaking it ) Jesus set us free from it!

I know it offends people when it says satan uses the law as a weapon. The law is good but it condemns us. Satan is our adversary..this word adversary in the original language means "Classical writers understood [FONT="Gentium" !important][I]antidikos[/I][/FONT] to signify an opponent in a lawsuit
Complete Biblical Library Greek-English Dictionary,

Satan uses the law against us! But Jesus is our Righteous One that has taken away all our sin! and declares us righteous! When we believe there is now therefore no condemnation because we are in Christ - satan loses his weapon to afflict us with guilt and condemnation.

it's a great salvation we have in the Lord!


[QUOTE="james57, post: 2388907"]If Jesus only died for past sins the christian MUST live under a righteousness before God of observing the law/ works of the law. Anyone who believes that must dismiss Paul's letters, for in that case he must have preached a false Gospel

Satans chief weapons to destroy the true christian are guilt and condemnation[/QUOTE]
 
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Be not dismayed at their words Consuming fire, there are a lot of "sinful imperfectionists", "greasy gracers" and OSAS (Once a Sinner Always a Sinner) followers roaming these forums on the internet. They reject the notion one can truly be set free from sin even though that is exactly what Jesus plainly said He would do to those who are truly God's sons. Those who don't truly believe the words of Jesus Christ, and don't truly believe the power of God can actually set them free from the bondage of sin are lost, are still in darkness, and have not the Light of the Truth dwelling in them.

Keep tearing down the strongholds of the Devil with the sword of the Spirit, and fight the good fight. Peace and God bless. :)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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got to love all these people that became spiritually mature super Christians the moment they came to Christ, and never have a struggle with any sin the rest of their lives. able to eat pure meat the moment they are born again
If only God could allow the rest of us to live in this fantasy land,