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:hrmm: and that extended covenant could not even understand
by a creature like you who were hidding
unto the lie of its own master that is hidden within you
as it is written. (your quote)

any proof given to your lie. see i wait till you can.

do you have proof, to this, or are you ranting.
( hebs 9 v15)
 
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:hrmm: like you as the one who has speaking only for himself
couldnt provide a better scripture but to boast himself only
as it is written
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2 Timoteo: 3. 16. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
so is knowing, what is finish, job done. ie new covenant. again already quoted to you. etc
 
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rant again, what games, see the bible quotes i have already given.

either prove them wrong, and keep you poisoned remark to your self, it already shows you have no answer.
:hrmm: your a real blind unto the words of god
read so that you may know
for you only answer which gaves favor unto your twisted thoughts
and we choice not to hear those thought of your
unlesd you change
so much for the answer when you only answer with your own
deceitful words
and not with the scriptures
let the scriptures speak for itself
 
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:hrmm: like you as the one who has speaking only for himself
couldnt provide a better scripture but to boast himself only
as it is written
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2 Timoteo: 3. 16. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
context is a key, you have no context.
 
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:hrmm: your a real blind unto the words of god
read so that you may know
for you only answer which gaves favor unto your twisted thoughts
and we choice not to hear those thought of your
unlesd you change
so much for the answer when you only answer with your own
deceitful words
and not with the scriptures
let the scriptures speak for itself
in your opinion you mean, yet i see no scripture to back up your rant.
 
Jul 23, 2015
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:hrmm: and that extended covenant could not even understand
by a creature like you who were hidding
unto the lie of its own master that is hidden within you
as it is written. (your quote)

any proof given to your lie. see i wait till you can.

do you have proof, to this, or are you ranting.
( hebs 9 v15)
:hrmm: a real blknd like you couldnt read
what the scriptures says
you speak lie to us by putting those twisted words of yours
unto our mouth
and now you cant provide scriptures to the scriptures
that we provide so that you may see the truth
 
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:hrmm: a real blknd like you couldnt read
what the scriptures says
you speak lie to us by putting those twisted words of yours
unto our mouth
and now you cant provide scriptures to the scriptures
that we provide so that you may see the truth
again what is your point. and what has it to do with hebs 9v15
 
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Is truth based on what you have been told? Is truth based on science alone? Is truth relative? A Christian would see truth from a Biblical standpoint. A non Christian would see truth from a different perspective.
 
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so is knowing, what is finished, job done. and when a new covenant started.
 
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in your opinion you mean, yet i see no scripture to back up your rant.
:hrmm: your not reading scriptures
thats mean your blind unto the truth
havent you notice that almost our post is accompany by
scriptures meaning we are no opinionated
look and compared it from yours
 
Jul 23, 2015
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:alien: that creature is hiding again
for he cant even provide a good scriptures
as the scriptures is the very words of god
so that we may know the truth that is written
as it is written
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Juan: 7. 16. Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

17. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.

18. He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.

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godbless us all always
 
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:hrmm: no worries that crrature este what we meant is that creature
will change for a better understanding of the scriptures
because all the truth he knows comes from hearing
but what if those evil things deceived him like what happen now
anx tell him to hear only what is said by those people
who twist the very words of god
and he never intend to read what is witten in the holy scriptures
to secure his very salvation
because his salvation is oyr salvation
 
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:alien: indeed
that creature salvation is also our salvation
as it is written
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Lucas: 15. 1. Then drew near unto him all the publicans and sinners for to hear him. 2. And the Pharisees and scribes murmured, saying, This man receiveth sinners, and eateth with them.

3. And he spake this parable unto them, saying,
4. What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it? 5. And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing.

6. And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost.
7. I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

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godbless us all always
 
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old or new covenant. see one is finished, that s why there is a new one.

yet i have given scripture to connect my proof, you have gave no proof, so your a liar, or blind.
already quoted.
15 Therefore he is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, since a death has occurred that redeems them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant.Hebrews 9
One covenant establisheda perfect law not subject to change by another covenant.The covenant in the first place has never been in respect to the flesh of people or nations but a convent of God’s written law. Called the book of the covenant.

There is not one covenant for the Jews and another for the gentile. As if God was a respecter of persons and was pursuing two different brides.

Exo 34:27 And the LORD said unto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel.

The new covenant is the reformed covenant promised in the older portion. The younger of the two that makes up whole perfect one law of God .

It began when Christ said it is finished. It is not new in so much that it is separate from the old. But rather completes the old extending it through to the last day. This is so we which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance just as they were called by the first. Both together receiving the same promise in the twinkling of the eye all who have the "Spirit of Christ" will receive the new incorruptible bodies. .

The new covenant represents the last days . The generation of Christ .This is because of the reformation. It restored the order to the time period of Judges when there was no external representation and men walked by faith (the unseen representative ).

In any generation if any man has not the Spirit of Christ then neither do they belong to God .They would not be born again and therefore have not passed from death to eternal life.

The younger or most recent part of the one covenant of God confirms the Spirit of Christ did live in those saints. The only difference is we look back to the suffering while the Spirit of promise gave them the faith to look ahead.

1Pe 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

The glory that did follow called the first resurrection.

It brought the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, the "called ones" that might receive the promise of eternal inheritance just as we are seeing when we die it is in respect to the first resurrection. This is unless a saint that is alive here reigning with Christ . They alone will not experience death but will be changed .I think we could say like the parables using Enoch and Elijah .Two witnesses that were used to show what will happen on the last day when this present earth and universe will vanish out of sight and the new comes in.

The second or last resurrection will be when those who remain alive on earth reigning with Christ on the last day will be caught up with other members of the same bride who were dead alseep and both will receive their new bodies in the new heavens and earth. That will be the second and final resurrection.The end of the age. The end of the law that brought death this is because now the first heavens and earth has passed away.That law of Moses will not enter the promised eternal land , the heavenly new Jerusalem as the mother of us all

Luke 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

One calling, two resurrections

Heb 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the "new testament", that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, “they which are called” might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
 
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:hrmm: as it is written
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Mateo: 26. 28. For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Mga Hebreo: 9. 24. For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

25. Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;
26. For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

Mga Hebreo: 3. 6. But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.

7. Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice, 8. Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
9. When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
10. Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
11. So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)

12. Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.

13. But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
14. For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;

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godbless us all always
 
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One covenant establisheda perfect law not subject to change by another covenant.The covenant in the first place has never been in respect to the flesh of people or nations but a convent of God’s written law. Called the book of the covenant.(saviour is a saviour, now what did he do, finished or complete the first covenant, when did gentile have a place in the first covenant.)

There is not one covenant for the Jews and another for the gentile. As if God was a respecter of persons and was pursuing two different brides. (not now, there is not, they are called christian believers, the rejection of jesus christ, is a key factor, to why the covenant changed in the first place, all have sin under law, so nobody could have a correct stand before god) john 3 v 16

Exo 34:27 And the LORD said unto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel. (completed by a saviour, hence new covenant. or change)

The new covenant is the reformed covenant promised in the older portion. The younger of the two that makes up whole perfect one law of God .

grace has no part with law,Galatians 5: Christ Has Set Us Free1 For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.
2 Look: I, Paul, say to you that if you accept circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you.3 I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law.4 You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.Galatians 5

It began when Christ said it is finished. It is not new in so much that it is separate from the old. But rather completes the old extending it through to the last day. This is so we which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance just as they were called by the first. Both together receiving the same promise in the twinkling of the eye all who have the "Spirit of Christ" will receive the new incorruptible bodies. .

no see, pentecost, and acts 2 and10 holly spirit inside a believer.
the holly spirit was given when jesus was back in heaven. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.1Luke 3: John the Baptist Prepares the Way

The new covenant represents the last days . The generation of Christ .This is because of the reformation. It restored the order to the time period of Judges when there was no external representation and men walked by faith (the unseen representative ). no it dos not,6 he says: "It is too light a thing that you should be my servant
to raise up the tribes of Jacob
and to bring back the preserved of Israel;
I will make you as a light for the nations,
that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth."

In any generation if any man has not the Spirit of Christ then neither do they belong to God .They would not be born again and therefore have not passed from death to eternal life.

The younger or most recent part of the one covenant of God confirms the Spirit of Christ did live in those saints. The only difference is we look back to the suffering while the Spirit of promise gave them the faith to look ahead.

1Pe 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

The glory that did follow called the first resurrection.

It brought the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, the "called ones" that might receive the promise of eternal inheritance just as we are seeing when we die it is in respect to the first resurrection. This is unless a saint that is alive here reigning with Christ . They alone will not experience death but will be changed .I think we could say like the parables using Enoch and Elijah .Two witnesses that were used to show what will happen on the last day when this present earth and universe will vanish out of sight and the new comes in. (finished by jesus, )

The second or last resurrection will be when those who remain alive on earth reigning with Christ on the last day will be caught up with other members of the same bride who were dead alseep and both will receive their new bodies in the new heavens and earth. That will be the second and final resurrection.The end of the age. The end of the law that brought death this is because now the first heavens and earth has passed away.That law of Moses will not enter the promised eternal land , the heavenly new Jerusalem as the mother of us all

Luke 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.(finished by jesus, context, saviour saved you from what)

One calling, two resurrections

Heb 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the "new testament", that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, “they which are called” might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
tell me how did you get the old testament , was it stolen by war, knowing how the bible came to being, is also a part of etc
new covenant is a new covenant.

15 Therefore he is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, since a death has occurred that redeems them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant

see the jewish law was also attached to the law of the land.


the transgressions committed under the first covenant are redeems them under the first covenant.

that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth." etc
 
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:hrmm: as it is written
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Mateo: 26. 28. For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Mga Hebreo: 9. 24. For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

25. Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;
26. For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

Mga Hebreo: 3. 6. But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.

7. Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice, 8. Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
9. When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
10. Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
11. So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)

12. Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.

13. But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
14. For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;

:ty:

godbless us all always
context. new covenant.


6 he says:
"It is too light a thing that you should be my servant
to raise up the tribes of Jacob
and to bring back the preserved of Israel;
I will make you as a light for the nations,
that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth."


when was usa discovered, (1600 ad around)
 
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