Unconditional love and the church's approach to homosexuality

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SophieT

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You apparently know a lot more than I do, seeing you are not only the half-baked ditzy flake telling me, my wife has been lying to me for 32 years now, concerning her dreaming Jesus playing with her when she was a child, because it's not scriptural, which I'd like to know what scripture you're referring to, but you've also tried telling me, I don't know what I'm talking about, and you somehow know better than I do.
I suppose we'll find out who knows what God not only said, but also what He meant, if this dialogue continues.
And thanks for that grade school lesson on the ten commandments. It was ever so enlightening.

According to the word of god, I am as Jesus is in me in this world.
So if Jesus is 50% holy then I guess I am 50% holy as well.
And as for sins in general versus homosexuality, don't you know, some sins are worse than others? There are some sins unto death and there are some that are not. At least according to the few verses I read beyond the Gospels.
And I asked you, what is the purpose of God putting His Spirit in the children of God?
Isn't it to empower the children of God to fulfill the law, among other things?
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your wife is not lying. I never said she was lying. I said she needed help and so do you and now I remember you.

So if Jesus is 50% holy then I guess I am 50% holy as well.
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Jesus was not 50% holy. you are way off in your own little world and I will leave you to it. the way you speak to people, the name calling and arrogant nonsense, are all a part of the deception you live in. you are on ignore.
 
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JerryInBoston said:
What must you do to be saved: nothing?
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What did Jesus say you need to do to be saved?

Romans 10:9-13
9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. 13 For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

That's what saves us, and as a result

Ephesians 2:8-10
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

Simple
 
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JerryInBoston said:
God's love is both conditional and unconditional.

Unconditional in that God created the world and everything in it for His purposes. We did not earn it or deserve it, but God gave us dominion over all. God provides us shelter, food, clothing, company of others, all because God purposed it that way.

Condition in that if we want to enjoy life eternally with God in His heavenly kingdom, we must put our faith and trust in Jesus Christ alone.
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God loves all. He loves the worst sinner. If He did not, no one would ever be saved. He is not as we are. He loves even when He is not loved back.

Salvation is offered to all but not all accept. Gospel 101
 
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SophieT said:
God loves all. He loves the worst sinner. If He did not, no one would ever be saved. He is not as we are. He loves even when He is not loved back.

Salvation is offered to all but not all accept. Gospel 101
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What must you do to be saved? You can't hate God and be saved? "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life." Greatest command is to love the Lord our God with all ... Therefore, the condition for God's loving gift of eternal life is to those who believe and love Him.
 
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SophieT said:
your wife is not lying. I never said she was lying. I said she needed help and so do you and now I remember you.



Jesus was not 50% holy. you are way off in your own little world and I will leave you to it. the way you speak to people, the name calling and arrogant nonsense, are all a part of the deception you live in. you are on ignore.
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Don't put on ignore.
If you did then you won't see the false doctrine he posts that babes in Christ on here will see, not just on this thread but other threads.
 
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BillG said:
Ok.

So basically you got it from my book?
Yes you say therefore you did not get it from your brain.
Unless of course you wrote the book from your brain.
If so where did your brain learn this from?
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pardon my interruption please, but what nonsense is going on here with our friend Jerry?

gotta say though, if you have a book and a brain, what else do you need :LOL:
 
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JerryInBoston said:
What must you do to be saved? You can't hate God and be saved? "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life." Greatest command is to love the Lord our God with all ... Therefore, the condition for God's loving gift of eternal life is to those who believe and love Him.
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chill dude. chill

you can kill believers and run after them to kill them and Jesus will meet you where you are in spite of yourself.

Paul

now for sure God does not chase after everyone that way, but now and then He does. Had his eye on David too

anyhoo, you can be wrong as much as you want and twice on Sunday. :giggle:
 
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BillG said:
Don't put on ignore.
If you did then you won't see the false doctrine he posts that babes in Christ on here will see, not just on this thread but other threads.
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I really do not want to deal with the type of spirit and personality he exudes. It's not just false doctrine. It's demonic crap.

IMO, I don't think anyone should respond. You are not going to change a thing and if no one bothers, what's he gonna do?

Talk to himself? pretty sure he does that anyway :cautious:
 
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JerryInBoston said:
What must you do to be saved? You can't hate God and be saved? "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life." Greatest command is to love the Lord our God with all ... Therefore, the condition for God's loving gift of eternal life is to those who believe and love Him.
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What must you do to be saved?

Romans 10:9-12
9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him.

And the results



Ephesians 2:8-10
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.
 
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SophieT said:
chill dude. chill

you can kill believers and run after them to kill them and Jesus will meet you where you are in spite of yourself.

Paul

now for sure God does not chase after everyone that way, but now and then He does. Had his eye on David too

anyhoo, you can be wrong as much as you want and twice on Sunday. :giggle:
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I'm way chilled, sis. My point: without repentance and faith and love, God let's you go your own way, gives you over to a reprobate mind, lets you stay on the broad way to destruction, unless those conditions of repentance and faith and love are met.
 
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BillG said:
If I had one I wouldn't be asking for a copy would I?

So I assume you don't either and are a copy and paste merchant.
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You highland blokes don't use the terms "Book" and "Good Book" to refer to the Bible?
 
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