Understanding God’s election
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Many are called. Few are chosen.
Which explains nominal Christians in comparison to indwelt ones.
They can think to become a Christian,the nominal ones. However,I think that is why we are told we will know by the fruits who is truly of the vine that gives life.
While those who think they choose to believe but for whom it really means nothing are the dried twigs pruned from the vine and cast into the fire for not bearing fruit.
Those not in the Spirit cannot produce fruit of the Spirit.
Which explains nominal Christians in comparison to indwelt ones.
They can think to become a Christian,the nominal ones. However,I think that is why we are told we will know by the fruits who is truly of the vine that gives life.
While those who think they choose to believe but for whom it really means nothing are the dried twigs pruned from the vine and cast into the fire for not bearing fruit.
Those not in the Spirit cannot produce fruit of the Spirit.
1. God seeks after us.
2. He makes us aware that we need His work on the Cross because He makes us realize we're lost in sin.
3. We realize that we need Him.
4. We repent (God doesn't repent but we repent).
The issue is did we repent by force or did we repent because we now understand we need to?
If we repent because we now understand we need to then it's a decision made by choice.
That is Free will.
2. He makes us aware that we need His work on the Cross because He makes us realize we're lost in sin.
3. We realize that we need Him.
4. We repent (God doesn't repent but we repent).
The issue is did we repent by force or did we repent because we now understand we need to?
If we repent because we now understand we need to then it's a decision made by choice.
That is Free will.
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Yes but that's directed to the elect for whom it was made for, and that atonement was reckon theirs before they received it by Faith, it was theirs even while they were enemies Vs 10
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
The atonement in Vs 11 is the same as the reconciled in Vs 10, same greek word
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
The atonement in Vs 11 is the same as the reconciled in Vs 10, same greek word
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Gods Love is perfect towards His Elect in Christ, not all mankind, not all angels. All outside of Christ , God hates and will destroy as workers of iniquity Ps 5:5
5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
God never knew them/loved them,in fact He made them as vessels of wrath and fitted them for destruction Rom 9.
So God is Love, but only in Christ !
Gods Love is perfect towards His Elect in Christ, not all mankind, not all angels. All outside of Christ , God hates and will destroy as workers of iniquity Ps 5:5
5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
God never knew them/loved them,in fact He made them as vessels of wrath and fitted them for destruction Rom 9.
So God is Love, but only in Christ !
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The carnal man minds or attends to things of the flesh. His mind is at enmity with God. He is not subject to the law and CANNOT in this estate be subject to it...Romans 6.
An argument often given is that a natural fallen man can understand the gospel and respond to it positively. Romans 6 says he is incapable of doing so. But not because he doesn't have the faculty of mind to understand it, but because he is opposed to God...Romans 3:10 and following...and simply cannot be subjected to the law of God in his current estate. He must first be changed from this estate to receive the things of God.
This is hard for many to accept. It doesn't reconcile with what many believe is true of both the fallen natural man or their understanding of what it means that God is love. This is most unfortunate, but not likely to change.
An argument often given is that a natural fallen man can understand the gospel and respond to it positively. Romans 6 says he is incapable of doing so. But not because he doesn't have the faculty of mind to understand it, but because he is opposed to God...Romans 3:10 and following...and simply cannot be subjected to the law of God in his current estate. He must first be changed from this estate to receive the things of God.
This is hard for many to accept. It doesn't reconcile with what many believe is true of both the fallen natural man or their understanding of what it means that God is love. This is most unfortunate, but not likely to change.
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