Understanding God’s election
- Thread starter dougcho
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
I already have. Even beamed up biblical definitions to you. Since individual men are not in view in the passage, then the passage must be speaking collectively, "all" peoples, all nations, etc.. And as proven this interpretation squares with many other supporting. You're going to have to come with something more than wishful thinking ("men") to support your contention that "all" means each and every person.
A tirade? Really? You do lower yourself to identify it as such.
Perhaps I was wrong to trust you with your definitions and all your book learning.
The proof has been given a multitude of times. Are you blind?
1 Peter 2:7-8 To you who believe, then, this stone is precious. But to those who do not believe, “The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone,” and, “A stone of stumbling and a rock of offense.” They stumble because they disobey the word- and to this they were appointed.
Thank you for the inspiration, Rufus! .
Perhaps I was wrong to trust you with your definitions and all your book learning.
The proof has been given a multitude of times. Are you blind?
1 Peter 2:7-8 To you who believe, then, this stone is precious. But to those who do not believe, “The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone,” and, “A stone of stumbling and a rock of offense.” They stumble because they disobey the word- and to this they were appointed.
Thank you for the inspiration, Rufus! .
Really? He did drive out the money changers from the temple on two different occasions. So, there is that...
Two things: First, demonstrate to me that you understand the difference between qualfied and unqualfiied statements, declarations or propositions.
Secondly, which passage in Jn 6 has my interepretation allegedly committed the above fallacy. Be specific.
Two things: First, demonstrate to me that you understand the difference between qualfied and unqualfiied statements, declarations or propositions.
Secondly, which passage in Jn 6 has my interepretation allegedly committed the above fallacy. Be specific.
@Musicmaster
Thats the elect !
Thats the elect !
A tirade? Really? You do lower yourself to identify it as such.
Perhaps I was wrong to trust you with your definitions and all your book learning.
The proof has been given a multitude of times. Are you blind?
1 Peter 2:7-8 To you who believe, then, this stone is precious. But to those who do not believe, “The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone,” and, “A stone of stumbling and a rock of offense.” They stumble because they disobey the word- and to this they were appointed.
Thank you for the inspiration, Rufus! .
Perhaps I was wrong to trust you with your definitions and all your book learning.
The proof has been given a multitude of times. Are you blind?
1 Peter 2:7-8 To you who believe, then, this stone is precious. But to those who do not believe, “The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone,” and, “A stone of stumbling and a rock of offense.” They stumble because they disobey the word- and to this they were appointed.
Thank you for the inspiration, Rufus! .
MM