Understanding God’s election

[GWH]

I did like your post overall, but I wondered about that part of the post.

Was there some verse in the Bible that gave you the impression that God had the option to hate us, but didn't choose to do so?


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Yes, Romans 9:15-22.

 

[GWH]

And I suspect and expect that you'll be in for more than a few unexpected surprises come the Last Day.

suspect & expect = bet. You're on!

 

[GWH]

The day when the good and faithful servant, who persevered under trial, who endured in the faith, will be be clothed in white.

Yes, perseverance/endurance is part of GRFS.

 

[GWH]

The way GWh shamelessly perverts, distorts and twists God's Word to suit his agenda and purposes, I don't think it will go as he hopes. God does not like it when people add to his Holy Word!

Prov 30:5-6
5 "Every word of God is flawless;
he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.
6 Do not add to his words,
or he will rebuke you and prove you a liar.
NIV

GWh, yes!
You forget I was taught to believe OSAS before reading the Bible and LGW for myself.
I bet you will be rebuked for subtracting from GW that He loves everyone.

 

[GWH]

Please don't speak for him. I don't appreciate how you're trying to turn people against him.

The fact that you're acting and speaking that way shows you have free will because that behavior goes against the leading of the Holy Spirit. If you really did not have free will and are a programmed robot, you wouldn't be that way at all.


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Amen and thanks! And because maintaining that God loves everyone does not justify Rufus's hatred,
I suspect he had a bad hair day and was taking it out on me.
But while I do not consider him and Magenta enemies,
their persecution does serve to teach me to obey Matt.5:44.

 

[studier]

their persecution does serve to teach me to obey Matt.5:44.

Much opportunity on the forums for this. Well done good and.....

 

[Rufus]

When Jesus returns He won't be looking for a theological construction.

Jesus will be looking for those who did what He told them to do [which includes teaching others in accordance with sound doctrine, cf. Tit 2:1].

FTFY

 

[Rufus]

I see no good reason to remember your opinion.

Finally the truth...the understatement of the year, thus far. It's very obvious you cannot see many truths in scripture.

 

[GWH]

Finally the truth...the understatement of the year, thus far. It's very obvious you cannot see many truths in scripture.

"Your" is not scripture, and neither is "my"; hence at this point we end expressing our opinions with a bet.

 

[Rufus]

GWh, yes!
You forget I was taught to believe OSAS before reading the Bible and LGW for myself.
I bet you will be rebuked for subtracting from GW that He loves everyone.

No, I will not be rebuked for rejecting your lie.

Nor will I be rebuked for you rejecting the doctrine of the Preservation of the Saints. God is not an Indian giver. Once he raises a soul from the dead and gives him the gift of eternal life, that person will persevere in the faith and God will glorify him on the last day.

Jer 32:39-40
39 and I will give them one heart and one way, that they may fear Me always, for their own good, and for the good of their children after them. 40 "And I will make an everlasting covenant with them that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; and I will put the fear of Me in their hearts so that they will not turn away from Me.
NASB

Wow! Look at that. That Big Bad Bully is back! He promises to give his people one heart and ONE WAY so that they will fear God FOREVER! And he promises to never turn away from his elect to do them good. And the efficacy of the Fear of the Lord is spelled out plain as day -- SO THAT THEY WILL NOT TURN AWAY FROM ME. Did you catch that: "they WILL NOT turn away from me"? That Cosmic Bully is at it again. (Recall what I posted a few days ago about Balaam and how he was "forced" to speak the words that God put in his mouth!?) So...since God's elect will not be able to turn away from the Lord, how can any of God's chosen ones ever lose their salvation?

 

[Rufus]

"Your" is not scripture, and neither is "my"; hence at this point we end expressing our opinions with a bet.

Your mind is consumed with this fantasy bet of yours. Better start attending GA (Gamblers Anonymous) meetings.

 

[GWH]

No, I will not be rebuked for rejecting your lie.

Nor will I be rebuked for you rejecting the doctrine of the Preservation of the Saints. God is not an Indian giver. Once he raises a soul from the dead and gives him the gift of eternal life, that person will persevere in the faith and God will glorify him on the last day.

Jer 32:39-40
39 and I will give them one heart and one way, that they may fear Me always, for their own good, and for the good of their children after them. 40 "And I will make an everlasting covenant with them that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; and I will put the fear of Me in their hearts so that they will not turn away from Me.
NASB

Wow! Look at that. That Big Bad Bully is back! He promises to give his people one heart and ONE WAY so that they will fear God FOREVER! And he promises to never turn away from his elect to do them good. And the efficacy of the Fear of the Lord is spelled out plain as day -- SO THAT THEY WILL NOT TURN AWAY FROM ME. Did you catch that: "they WILL NOT turn away from me"? That Cosmic Bully is at it again. (Recall what I posted a few days ago about Balaam and how he was "forced" to speak the words that God put in his mouth!?) So...since God's elect will not be able to turn away from the Lord, how can any of God's chosen ones ever lose their salvation?

Well, I prefer to risk divine rebuke for praising His omnilove than for accusing Him of hating anyone.

 

[GWH]

Your mind is consumed with this fantasy bet of yours. Better start attending GA (Gamblers Anonymous) meetings.

You think that I should bet I am wrong?

 

[Rufus]

Well, I prefer to risk divine rebuke for praising His omnilove than for accusing Him of hating anyone.

I prefer his praise for being true to what He has revealed about himself -- revelation that let's me off the hook for accusing him of anything since divine, holy hatred is not a product of my mind.

 

[Rufus]

You think that I should bet I am wrong?

I think you should take your prospective bet and give it to the poor. Both you and they would be better served.

 

[Magenta]

Well, I prefer to risk divine rebuke for praising His omnilove than for accusing Him of hating anyone.

Psalm 5 verses 4-6 ~ You are not a God Who delights in wickedness; no evil can dwell with You. The boastful cannot stand in Your presence; You hate all workers of iniquity. You destroy those who tell lies; the LORD abhors the man of bloodshed and deceit.

 

[Rufus]

Psalm 5 verses 4-6 ~ You are not a God Who delights in wickedness; no evil can dwell with You. The boastful cannot stand in Your presence; You hate all workers of iniquity. You destroy those who tell lies; the LORD abhors the man of bloodshed and deceit.

Inspired by God who is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. And I praise and am ever thankful to Him because He can never change his immutable character.

 

[Magenta]

Inspired by God who is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. And I praise and
am ever thankful to Him because He can never change his immutable character.

Proverbs 6 verses 16-19 plus 12
Amen! That GWH guy is a false witness who gives false testimony.

 

[Magenta]

Romans 9 verses 11-13 ~ Before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad, in order that Gsod’s plan of election might stand, not by works but by Him who calls, she (Rebekah) was told, “The older will serve the younger.” So it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”

 

[GWH]

Proverbs 6 verses 16-19 plus 12
Amen! That GWH guy is a false witness who gives false testimony.

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