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Aug 26, 2014
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Actually, if I were clever, you'd think I wouldn't tell so many jokes I have to explain. If I were a stand-up comic, people would be sitting their, their heads cocked, mouths open, staring in silence, with a pained expression on their faces, some heading to the ticket office to get their money back... groan... but thank you!
People often don't get my jokes, either, probably because I'm a pretty straight guy and have a dry sense of humour.
Having said that, I have been known to be the one guy in a group who will laugh hysterically at a joke no one else in the group gets. So I would likely laugh at your jokes.
 

Nick01

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In addition to the obvious modalism, I take great issue with anyone who has the words 'baptism of the Holy Spirit' (usually because people misuses the phrase whenever they use it in a doctrinal document), and requires such baptism to necessarily be evidenced by speaking in tongues. Ignoring that I KNOW people who have falsely spoken in tongues in such situations, but that this has been accepted as evidence of their baptism (which really makes it being an 'evidence' or any sort entirely pointless), there's no clear scriptural basis for this first of all as a truth, and second of all as a doctrinal necessity. I mean, if it was a necessary evidence, it almost beggers belief that there is no evidence that Paul spoke in tongues at such a point in Acts at all, and indeed the only reference is from his own pen in 1 Cor 14 which is nowhere linked to baptism of any sort, and indeed he seems to assume that Christians can be gifted by the Spirit in other (and, he argues, more important ways) without speaking in tongues.
 
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This passage here also refutes Modalism big time.

Matthew 12:31-32
"Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the HolyGhost shall not be forgiven unto men. [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][/FONT]And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

In other words, if somebody speaks a word against the Son of man (Jesus) (Which people do all the time), it will be forgiven them. But if anyone speaks against the Hoy Ghost, it will not be forgiven them. See. They are separate persons that exist as one God. If Modalism was true, this passage would not exist. Because speaking against a particular name or role doesn't make any sense. One is condemned for actually speaking against the person in the Godhead known as the Holy Ghost.
 
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FollowTheFire

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Oneness doctrine has been around longer than the trinity. Go research the councils in today's Istanbul. The Apostle's who were Jewish would never accept Jesus if he said he was a second God. There is only one God and He has many titles but He came down to save his people both Jew and Gentile and his name is YHWH.
 

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I won't set a foot in any church that charges for the gospel. Don't pick at one demon-ination when they all are thieves.
 

Nautilus

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when a church starts telling me how to cut my hair, thats when I know it's time to hit the exit.